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Post by mink on Jan 7, 2012 14:11:47 GMT -5
I'm getting more absent-minded every day. Here is the link users.usinternet.com/dfnels/index.htmCheck the "Little Crow" topic as well. I mention an old book of personal reminiscences that favorably if briefly mentions your relative, Thomas Robinson. |
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Post by madrock on Jan 8, 2012 8:59:35 GMT -5
I'm getting more absent-minded every day. Here is the link users.usinternet.com/dfnels/index.htmCheck the "Little Crow" topic as well. I mention an old book of personal reminiscences that favorably if briefly mentions your relative, Thomas Robinson. I've eMailed the owner Dale F Nelson before about the Wapasha information but never got a reply. Good info. |
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Post by mink on Jan 8, 2012 16:38:27 GMT -5
I wanted a look at the zip file on the Rocques but have nothing that will open it.
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Post by madrock on Jan 8, 2012 16:48:15 GMT -5
I wanted a look at the zip file on the Rocques but have nothing that will open it. I tried it about 5-6 years ago and it didn't work then. |
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Post by madrock on Jan 21, 2012 9:47:21 GMT -5
I just finished typing up some notes for my research files that I collected from an Ancestry.com census record and am posting them here in case they would help someone else.
The CENSUS of the Medawakanton Sioux Indians of Birch Cooley Agency, Minnesota taken by Robert B. Henton, United States Indian Agent, July 15th to the 30th, 1895, available on Ancestry.com . . . .
. . . . Collected 7 columns of data: NO., INDIAN NAME, FAMILY NUMBER, ENGLISH NAME, SEX, RELATION, AGE . . . .
. . . . On 201 Individuals beginning with person No. 1 on page no. 1, IMAGE 65 & ending with person No. 201 on page no. 9, IMAGE 73
On page 7, IMAGE 71:
154, Upana, family #67, Susan, F, Widow, 74
156, Tatekinajinewin, family #69, Madline Rocque, F, Widow, 89
On page 8, IMAGE 72:
164, Tateicage, family #72, Joseph Windgrew, M, Husband, 37
165, Makawastewin, [blank], Susan Windgrew, F, wife, 40
166, Winona, [blank], Josephine Rocque daug of Susan, F, Daughter, 13
167, Hapana, [blank], Mary Rocque daughter of Susan, F, Daughter, 11
168, Tasnnketo, [blank], Felix Rocque son of Susan, M, Son, 8
169, [blank], [blank], Paul Wingrew, M, Son, 3
Note 1. Notation at the top of the form sheet: "Prairie Island Settlement"
Note 2. Not noted but recognized from other research:
Number 154 Susan is the mother of 165 Susan and maternal grandmother of children 166, 167 & 168.
Number 166, 167 & 168 children's father is {unlisted} Felix Rocque, long deceased.
Number 156 Madaline Rocque is the mother of {unlisted} Felix Rocque and the paternal grandmother of children 166, 167, & 168.
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 21, 2012 17:02:38 GMT -5
madrock and mink: I found this on line, re. Theophilus Lachappelle:
60 Brunson, “Judicial History,” pp. 6,7,11,12. The exception was Theophilus LaChappelle, who was
Dakota and French, a lawyer who during the 1840s represented Crawford County in the Wisconsin
Territory Legislative Council, then became insane, murdered a man, and was institutionalized for the rest of
his life.
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Post by mink on Jan 22, 2012 23:51:45 GMT -5
Good work, Hermin. I found an excellent ebook with good information about Prairie du Chien. I haven't looked through the whole thing yet--but it may be the same one I had bookmarked elsewhere but whose webpage vanished. It's here: tinyurl.com/75wn2mpIt would seem that a certain Pierre La Pointe was an Indian interpeter, who settled at Prairie du Chien and married a sister of Chief Wapasha [whose name I do not yet know]. Their daughter, Mrs. Antoine La Chapelle, a woman taught to read and write, was the mother of Theophilus La Chapelle, the territorial representative who went insane and spent the rest of his days in an asylum at Mendota [sic]. The only Mendota I know is across from Fort Snelling and I never heard of an asylum being there. I'll have to check on this--but now I know the parents of this particular La Chapelle and it should be easy enough to find out who Antoine, the father, was. I'm not sure, Hermin, why you moved the discussion to this thread--but I'll leave that up to you as you know this board a lot better than I do. |
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Post by mink on Jan 23, 2012 0:38:28 GMT -5
Aha! Here is the whole family:
Antoine LACHAPELLE married Pelagie LAPOINTE. She was the daughter of Pierre LAPOINTE and Etoukasahwee [sister of Chief Wapasha]
Children of Pelagie LAPOINTE and Antoine LACHAPELLE are:
Pierre Peter LACHAPELLE was born 1810 in Prairie du Chien, Crawford, Wisconsin, and died 1853 in Prairie du Chien, Crawford, Wisconsin. He married Marie Louise BRISBOIS 24 Jan 1831 in Prairie du Chien, Crawford, Wisconsin, daughter of Michael BRISBOIS and Domitelle GAULTIER DE VERVILLE. She was born 26 Apr 1814 in Prairie du Chien, Crawford, Wisconsin, and died in Mendota, Dakota, Minnesota.
Theophilus LACHAPELLE was born 1813 in Wisconsin.
Theresa LACHAPELLE. She married Bernard W. BRISBOIS, son of Michael BRISBOIS and Domitelle GAULTIER DE VERVILLE. He was born 1808, and died 1885
Bernard LACHAPELLE died age 30.
Frederick LACHAPELLE
Pauline LACHAPELLE. She married BEACH
Antoine LACHAPELLE
Another sister of Wapasha married a man named Dubois
[first name not known to me], who was killed by the
Sioux near Prairie du Chien. I do not know if they had
any children. That other Theophilus Lachapelle, the river
pilot, was related to the Brisbois family, too. In fact, I think his mother was a Brisbois.
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Post by mink on Jan 23, 2012 0:47:27 GMT -5
Whoa! The river pilot Theophilus Lachapelle was a nephew of the other one, the lawyer! The river pilot's father, Pierre, was the brother of the other Theophilus. Well, there you go.
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Post by madrock on Jan 23, 2012 6:28:09 GMT -5
Aha! Here is the whole family: Antoine LACHAPELLE married Pelagie LAPOINTE. She was the daughter of Pierre LAPOINTE and Etoukasahwee [sister of Chief Wapasha] //// SNIP //// Mink, I took some of your post and began a new thread on Etonkasahwee / Etoukasahwee. In the your full post you had listed seven children of Antoine & Pelagie. A transcription I just received of a probate file indicated they had eight children. Just checking to see if one didn't get typed in with the rest. Maybe one child may have died very young and records were not kept. Later . . . . |
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 23, 2012 15:16:50 GMT -5
mink and madrock: here is what I have from the Lake Pepin Affidavits:
#9 and #10:Pauline Bronson states her mother was Pelalgia Lachapelle,a 1/2 blood Mdewakanton. Pauline married Ira Bronson in 1837. their children are Lovina,Theophilus G.,Duff Green,and Arthur G. Bronson, and they are all 1/8 bloods.Ira and Pauline were divorced and she remarried to D.O. Beach.
#76:Hercules Lachapelle age 23 yrs old,and 1/4 blood, states his father was Pierre Lachapelle a 1/4 blood, deceased. His grandmother was Pelagie Lachapelle a 1/2 blood Mdewakanton.Hercules's wife is Mary Lariviere(sp). Their children are 1/8 bloods.
#99 and 100: Theophilus Lachapelle is age 38yrs. old, and the ward of Bernard Brisbois. His father died 9 yrs before his mother. His mother was Pelagia LaChapelle, a 1/2 blood Mdewakanton.This affidavit states that Theophilus's wife is Mary Louise Martin(Now Mrs. Hypolite Martin), and their children are 1/8 bloods. His siblings are Sophia-wife of Wm Mitchell and their children are Harriet,Sophia, Elizabeth, and Louisa, and sister Pauline laChapelle(see above).
Joseph Lachapelle age 6mos. born of the marriage of Antoine and Pelagia Lachapelle was baptized on Apr. 22,1817.this is from record of baptisms, Prairie du Chien.
The information I have on Theophilus "Joseph" Lachapelle is that he was born 1832 or 1834 , Illinois Terr., and died 25 jan. 1863 Wabasha,MN. Burial: St. Felix Cem.,Pepin ,Wabasha ,MN.
parents:Pierre Peter LaChapelle and Mary Louise Brisbois.
spouse was Isabelle (Elizabeth) Cratte,d/o Oliver Cratte and Mary Sarah or Sally Graham(d/o Capt. Alex. duncan Graham, and Susan Totawin-Istagi,dau. of LeFils De Pinchon and a sister or dau. of chief Wabasha I). theophilus and Isabelle were wed 1854 Wabasha,MN(Record of Marriage,St. Peter). their children were Henry Epohte P(1858- 1912),Sarah b. @1858, Emilia Alice b. @1859, and isabel(Belle) (1861 - 1940).
After Theophilus died, she married Pierre "Alfred" Deschanet on 23 mar. 1865 Wabasha ,MINN.(Record of marriage St. Peters).
Isabelle was born 5 Feb. 1838 Mendota, Minn, and died 26 Jul. 1885. She is buried in St. Felix Cem., Wabsha, Minn.(Death and Burial Records for theophilus and Isabel).
Now about Pierre laPointe: He was born @1747 Canada, came to Prairie duChien in 1781. He died @1820-1829 Prairie du Chien.
spouse: was Camudwa( female) b. after 1747. Wed in 1784.
children:
1. Pelagia LaPointe. she was wed 2x:
Spouse 1: to Louis Crawford a fur trader and they had Louis ,Jr.,Redford ,and Sophia, wife of Wm. Mitchell(see above).
Second spouse of Pelagia was Antoine LaChapelle(b. @ 1817).Their children were:Theresa w/o Bernard Brisbois,Theophilus who had mental problems,Peter(Pierre), Bernard who died by suicide at age 30 yrs,Frederick of Prairie du chien,Antoine lived at Winnebago Agency Blue Earth,MN,Joseph(see above), Sophia(see above)and Pauline(see above).
Pierre's other wife was Etoukasahwee(Ojibwa female),whom he wed in 1782.
their children were:
1.Victoria w/o Edward Beszan,
2.Susan died young
3.Theresa-w/o an army officer @ Ft. Crawford.
It looks like Pierre LaPointe's grandson Theophilus, by Pelagia was the one with the mental problems as confirmed by the Affidavits for Lake Pepin Land Scrips, and his great grandson Theophilus (s/o Pierre "peter" and Mary Louise Brisbois)was the the river pilot, who married Isabelle Cratte.
So then, Pierre LaPoint had 4 children with his two wives.
Antoine Lachapelle and Pelagia had 8 children:
Joseph
Sophia
Pierre "Peter"
Bernard
Theophilus
Theresa
Frederick
Pauline
Antoine
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 28, 2012 15:31:46 GMT -5
Camudwa was the chippewa daughter of chief White Fisher according to my source.she died of starvation afte a battle involving the chippewas.She had two brothers. white fisher was the son of Big Foot, chippewa chief.
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 29, 2012 18:35:10 GMT -5
madrock and mink: I found this book at archives.org " Winona, the story told by the oldest son of Chief Wabasha,a Dakota,for those Who Read English". R.L. Tarwilliger.1910 i don't know if itis fiction or not. But some of what is written is true,re. the Foxes who killed one of Wabasha's sons.Only problem is it doesn't tell us which of the chiefs Wabasha is referred to. www.archive.org/stream/winonastorytoldb00terw/winonastorytoldb00terw_djvu.tt |
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Post by mink on Jan 29, 2012 18:48:01 GMT -5
I couldn't get it, Hermin. Is part of the URL missing?
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 30, 2012 8:48:32 GMT -5
mink and madrock;i believe part of the url was missing, but usually if the linkis long they insert the.....in it. try this link, to internet archive for the author. The title of the book is at the link,just click on it to get the book then select how you want to download it. www.archive.org/search.php?query=roy%20lawrence%20Terwilliger |
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 30, 2012 8:49:36 GMT -5
i tried this new link, and it works. Enjoy.
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Post by mink on Jan 31, 2012 12:13:17 GMT -5
Today I was reading the memoirs of Mrs. Baird, the sister of Jane Rolette [later Jane Dousman] and unexpectedly came across this reference to Theophilus Lachapelle:
"After supper we had a call from Theophile la Chappelle, brother of the first Mrs. Mitchell. He was a member of the legislature, a bright and intellectual young man, and an agreeable talker. His sister, Mrs. Mitchell, had died the December previous, and his desire to see me was great, knowing the friendship that existed between her and myself. Poor young man! He became insane soon after this, and spent the remainder of his life at the Hospital for the Insane, near Madison."
Another source said Mendota was the site of the hospital, but I knew that was not possible.
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 31, 2012 13:17:56 GMT -5
here is a link to the bio of hercules dousman. Jane rolette's maiden name was Fisher. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules_L._DousmanWho is this mrs. Baird, and what is the reference ,please? ______________ Update; I found out weho mrs. Baird Was.she was the half sister of Jane fisher-rolette-dousman(same father different mother)/. There was also Henry Munro fisher,jr.,brother of jane fisher. |
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 31, 2012 13:39:13 GMT -5
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Post by mink on Jan 31, 2012 18:08:38 GMT -5
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