Lucy Tiopa

[sings]

anybody?
would you happen to have any record of what happened to Betsy's daughter Elizabeth ( # 7)?
thanks for any information you could provide..
singsdakota

[wapate]

Hey Singsdakota
Hope you doing good, long time no talk!
As for Elizabeth #7 she is not Betsey's Daughter she is her Grand Daughter, her parents are Taopi and Hapan. How ever I am checking on this further, you see that at the bottom of Bet's Gene. #12 Nancy St.Clair (Anpahdiwin) she had a daughter named "Isabella Elizabeth St.Clair/Blacksmith" and she was living in Santee around 1897, so that may explain the "?" beside #7 Elizabeth so I will see what I can find.
wapate

[dawn]

I have a hand written family tree from Flandreau

It lists Anpahdiwin, spouse Thomas Miller, now next to him it says Non Indian and then that is crossed of and NI is written in so it is ether no issue or non Indian.

Then it lists Elizabeth St Clair
sp 1) Stephen Blacksmith (Tatekahomni)
Children - Cordelia Blacksmith, Mackey,Jones, Carter
cant read
Rayond
Gabrel
Stephen
Lorenzo
Pansy
Ida
Charles
Joseph, spouse Vina Boader children Violet and David Blacksmith
Sp2) James Johnson (ni)
Sp3) William Bearsheild (ni)
Sp4) Charles Moore (ni)

Dawn

[wapate]

Hey Dawn
Just wanted to clear up a little some thing in the Anpahdiwin tree it is mostly right except for the full story of Joseph, He was my Grandpa. What this leaves out is this:
Joseph Blacksmith Sr. was first married to Grandma Belle Roy/LeRoy and they had two children named, "Ethlynn Blacksmith/Round Head and Joseph Blacksmith Jr. and after Ethlynn's husband (Earl Round Head) murdered both Ethlynn and Belle, then Joseph Sr. married "Vina Bordeaux" so that makes Violet and David half siblings to my Dad.
I have seen this mistake in many papers, it almost like they forgot about my Dad and Aunt Ethlynn. as for Great Grandma Elizabeth (Isabella Elizabeth St. Clair) Indian name: "Anpahdiwin II" she lived for many years in-fact she was still alive when I was teenager, she died in a nursing home in Pierre SD and out lived four husbands, she was awesome lady, she must of took after Old Bets.
wapate

[hermin1]

My understanding friom diedrich's book is that Alexander Culbertson took Margeret to be with him when she was a young girl.

[wapate]

Hi all
maybe this will help. or not, according to the unabridged version of Old Bets Genealogy (no offense fw) :-) it says:
that Rattler (Kahdaya) had a daughter named, "Kakpankanwin aka Lizzie Culbertson" she married "Alexander Culbertson" and they had a Daughter named Margaret.
I hope this helps.

[dawn]

Wapate, thanks for clarification on the family tree.

Dawn

[wapate]

You are so very welcome Dawn.
Keep up the good work, you and the rest of the Mod. Squad are such a Blessing!
Thanks

[moccasin]

Sept 13, 2006 1:14:19 GMT -5 fwaukazoo said:

There is Hapan, or Lucy Taopi, 1818-1898, adopted grand-daughter Lucy Dick Taopi Thomas,
and Lucy Columbus Taopi in Taopi's family.


OLD BETSEY GENEALOGY
Itahotawin (Grey Face Woman) b.c. 1788-1863
Children:
1. Ticawakeya (Shelter Top), Indian Jim, One Legged Jim, Old Thad
2. Hinhdaku (He Who is Coming), -1850
3. Rattler (Kahdaya), or Causes to Rattle, -1850
4. Scarlet Hill Woman (Pahadutawin), -1853
5. Ellen (? Ellen Huntka, or Cormorant) 1885-
6. Betsey Mary St. Clair, "Old Bets," or (Hazainyankewin) 1803-1886
....husbands said to include: ? Iron Sword
....Children:

....1. Taopi (His Wound), 1824-1869; m. Hapan, or Lucy Taopi, 1818-1898
.......Children:
.......1. Samuel Taopi, 1845- m. Eunice, adopted Lucy Dick Taopi Thomas
.......2. Solon Taopi (Wiyopeyatahoksidan) 1860-1920; m. Lucy Columbus Taopi 1863-
.......3. child, d.1862
.......4. child, d.August 1862
.......5. Comelia Whipple Taopi 1861-1879
.......6. Nancy Taopi, 1837-1892
.......7. ? Elizabeth Taopi
..........There was a Charles Taopi, 1875-?, being raised by Tamazawin, his "grandmother";
..........Lucy Hibberd, 1840-?, was a cousin of Samuel Taopi

....2. Lightning Maker (Wakandikaga), or Job St. Clair 1825-1899
....3. Medicine (Helper) Woman (Pezutawin, or Pezutaokiyewin), or Lizzie Wells 1831-1840
....4. Scarlet Woman (Dutawin), or Mary Jones, 1834-
....5. Son, d.1850
....6. Son, d.1842
....7. Shooting Star, or Meteor (Wicanhpihiyaye)
....8. Scarlet Wing (Hupahuduta)
....9. Daughter--in. Many Hails (Tawasuota)
...10. ? Mary Payah (Bittertasting)
...11. ? Shining Iron, d.c.1848
...12. ? Nancy St. Clair (Anpahdiwin)

Old Betsey, The Life and Times of a Famous Dakota Woman and Her Family,
by Mark Diedrich

[hermin1]

Taopi had daughter Elizabeth with Susan Stone/Hedinajinwin. Susan later wed Samuel Stone of Santee.
Elizabeth married Moses Kitto, and they had a daughter, Amelia Kitto born @1888. Moses and Elizabeth died 1889, and Samuel Stone and Susan raised her. Amelia married Thomas Gooteacher and later she died in childbirth having a son, that also died.