sh225
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Post by sh225 on Jan 16, 2007 17:49:58 GMT -5
I happened to find an article from the Bismarck Tribune, 1884, about a land settlement case in Glendive Montana in 1884 in which various interests, including railroad and developers, were disputing land claims. Some of the claims were from Sioux half-breed scrips. The article stated that one of the settlements made was:
To Sophia Huot, Sioux half-breed claimant in tbe interest of E. T. Winston, is awarded lot 5, section 26, township 16, range 55; 19.77 acres.
Sophia (Monjeau or Moizo) Huot is my g-g-grandmother, and is the daughter of Nana Coussi or Tranamimirsavaii, thought to be the daughter of Wabasha II or III.
Sophia Huot was living in Minnesota in 1884 on a homestead that she took out in her own name. I don't understand what this is all about. Was this 'Winston' a land speculator who was trying to claim land by pretending to represent her? Can anyone help me understand this?
Thanks so much, I'd be very grateful.
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 19, 2007 20:19:44 GMT -5
what you wil need to do is contact the county Court house where the land was andsee what they have in their court files re. this.
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Post by drmmbyd on Jan 27, 2007 23:16:10 GMT -5
Wapate and Tamara,
Can i get all the info on the Wabashaw family??
Thanks,
drmm
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Post by bmheth on Jan 28, 2007 1:38:15 GMT -5
wapate,
this is bmheth trying to get in touch, tried your e-mail awhile back. It didn't go through. Can you get back to me?
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 28, 2007 2:56:47 GMT -5
bmheth: Send Wapate a PM. he will surely getit. I had problems with his email also.
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sh225
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Post by sh225 on Mar 2, 2007 5:40:12 GMT -5
Hi everyone,
My great-great-great-grandmother was apparently the daughter of Wabasha II. Her Christian name was Ann,she was married to a French Canadian, Joseph Monjeau. She was known as Nanna Coussi and her real name was Tranamimirsavaii. I was wondering if anyone out there knows what that means?
I'm told she was the aunt of 'Indian John', a scout friendly to the whites during the Dakota War of the 1860s, whose picture was posted on this site a while back. Does anyone know if that is true?
Thanks so much for any information.
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Post by tamara on Mar 2, 2007 15:49:40 GMT -5
Hi everyone, My great-great-great-grandmother was apparently the daughter of Wabasha II. Her Christian name was Ann,she was married to a French Canadian, Joseph Monjeau. She was known as Nanna Coussi and her real name was Tranamimirsavaii. I was wondering if anyone out there knows what that means? I'm told she was the aunt of 'Indian John', a scout friendly to the whites during the Dakota War of the 1860s, whose picture was posted on this site a while back. Does anyone know if that is true? Thanks so much for any information.[/quote If you send me an email at ttordsen@aol.com I can send you a wabasha family tree or else Dale Ebersole had a very nice website on the Wabasha Dynasty and would have some great Wabasha information. I would also look at the OLD BETS book and genealogy. |
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 2, 2007 17:45:10 GMT -5
I got my park books order so I am going to bury my nose in them out in the 78 degree beautiful weather. The books are sketchbook and has some stories by Ebell that i hadnt read before. The judge Flandrue papers...also amazing and some great transcriptions by the Mn Gen Society. I saw something on the Belland/Jeffries family that I am going to go over and post later. These particular books were things I was after at the Mn Historical Society so saved me a trip. My question on the Campbell family is if the Henry F Campbell and his mother Margaret Campbell are connected to the census. I am wondering if this family's Margaret is the Margaret on the McCloud census? The dates seem to fit, but the only clue I can see for now is that she is shown with a son named Samuel and I cant verify a Samuel in the papers the family has. That doesnt mean at all that there isnt one. I just dont see it from what I have been given. Who is this A D Campbell age 71 in 1891 showing in Sisseton Annuity rolls? Tamara: I don't know if this is the Samuel you are looking for , but here is what I have from my "digins": Louisa Campbell -Freniere aka Mazadinapewin. died 15 aug. 1909 AT the age of 75 years. parents: Oyesna and Iyahhhiyayewin spouse: Aantoine J. Campbell His parents: Margaret Menager and antoine Scott Campbell children: Samuel thomas Campbell Julia Campbell-Frenier, w/of ? Emery. Hermin1 |
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 2, 2007 17:53:11 GMT -5
Tmara: Indian John is not even related to Old Betsey and her family, as far as I can tell.Do you have something that says otherwise?
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Post by Jimmy on Mar 2, 2007 17:54:44 GMT -5
Julia Campbell-Frenier married George W. Emery. George was the brother of my gg grandfather, William Zenil Emery.
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Post by tamara on Mar 3, 2007 0:03:16 GMT -5
Tmara: Indian John is not even related to Old Betsey and her family, as far as I can tell.Do you have something that says otherwise? I dont think it was that he was related. I thought that it had mentioned him and possibly it would say something more. |
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Post by tamara on Mar 3, 2007 0:08:30 GMT -5
I got my park books order so I am going to bury my nose in them out in the 78 degree beautiful weather. The books are sketchbook and has some stories by Ebell that i hadnt read before. The judge Flandrue papers...also amazing and some great transcriptions by the Mn Gen Society. I saw something on the Belland/Jeffries family that I am going to go over and post later. These particular books were things I was after at the Mn Historical Society so saved me a trip. My question on the Campbell family is if the Henry F Campbell and his mother Margaret Campbell are connected to the census. I am wondering if this family's Margaret is the Margaret on the McCloud census? The dates seem to fit, but the only clue I can see for now is that she is shown with a son named Samuel and I cant verify a Samuel in the papers the family has. That doesnt mean at all that there isnt one. I just dont see it from what I have been given. Who is this A D Campbell age 71 in 1891 showing in Sisseton Annuity rolls? Tamara: I don't know if this is the Samuel you are looking for , but here is what I have from my "digins": Louisa Campbell -Freniere aka Mazadinapewin. died 15 aug. 1909 AT the age of 75 years. parents: Oyesna and Iyahhhiyayewin spouse: Aantoine J. Campbell His parents: Margaret Menager and antoine Scott Campbell children: Samuel thomas Campbell Julia Campbell-Frenier, w/of ? Emery. Hermin1 I had found what I was originally looking for in the connection of the Henry F Campbell family and put it aside. I did see in a later federal census the same margaret with Daniel Campbell and his wife in Minnesota, he listed as her grandson. it would seem that although she appears on the sisseton rolls, she always lived in Minnesota. I wondered if because of her son henry's involvement with the sisseton tribe, he would have assisted her in obtaining lease lands for income ... who knows... regardless, it would seem she did not live there. |
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Post by tamara on Mar 3, 2007 0:10:39 GMT -5
Tmara: Indian John is not even related to Old Betsey and her family, as far as I can tell.Do you have something that says otherwise? I am pressed for time but he is on pages 53, 72,77, 81, 87, 109, 130. I was planning on researching something else tonight.... but maybe I will just take a quick glance at the pages.... lol |
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Post by kandi1 on Apr 10, 2007 21:05:00 GMT -5
WAPATE Since my relative does not have a computer I told her I would send you an email to see if you could help her out. This is how she has given the information to me: Her mother is Dorothy (Dudley) Thomas. Her parents were Florence Lovejoy and Joseph Dudley. Here grandparents were Lizzie Lucas and Thomas Lovejoy. Her great grandparents were Samuel Lucas and Kate Wapaha. Kate Wapaha's father was John B. Wapaha and her mother Hapa. According to  John's baptism, his father is listed as Iyahinhda and mother Tahaza. Now according to his marriage license his father is listed as Wapate. Is this Thomas Wabashaw?? If you could shed some light on this it would be greatly appreciated. They are still trying to connect. My email is ktsantee@msn.com Once I have heard from you I will give you her phone #. Again thank you for any help you might have for them. |
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Post by peacekeeper on Apr 10, 2007 22:07:47 GMT -5
HI Kandi. I am not sure but I believe that it is another spelling for wapate.
Also has she looked into the lovejoy connection? have you shared the 1902 register of santee families and checked into that with your relative? just a few thoughts.
jackie
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Post by wapate on Apr 13, 2007 15:51:05 GMT -5
kandi1
I just did a quick check of our Wabasha trees and as for John showing up as son of Wapate I see nothing yet but there is a John that married a Nancy Love Joy and he also married Jennette Redwing but he was the son of Joe & Tatezatewin Wabasha I am very busy now and will keep my eyes open as I work on our trees, we will be doing a complete Wabasha and Old Bets tree in the future as time allows. My wife is a third Great Granddaughter to both of them.
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Post by hermin1 on Apr 13, 2007 19:49:03 GMT -5
kandi: Re. the family history for dorothy (dudley) thomas:
florence's father thomas Lovejoy was the son of Hannah and Owen Lovejoy. thomas's sister was the one who married John Wabashaw. Owen's parents were asa Wakanshanku and Nancy Mahpiyawastewin(born @1824, and died 3 Dec. 1908).
I have been unable to find anything on Kate Wapaha, However, her father, John B. Wapaha was married twice, first to Mary Hunton /Shanskawin on Aug. 17, 1879 at Santee(Santee marr. Register). the Santee Register ,Book 1 does not list the parents of the couple. The second marriage was to Nancy Winyangewin and they were wed Aug. 18, 1895 at Santee. the marriage record lists his parents as Wapaha and Tamzaza, and Nancy's as Hepanwaste,and Harpikasnasnawin. The marriage was performed by Rev. William Holmes.
I have Nancy Stone(Myrick)Wakute,as being born to Julia Stone and Hakandipeta(ref. rootsweb, World connect Project link; and the 1902 register Santee Indian Families. Both references give Julia's Idian name).
I am curious in re. to this marriage license you wrote about. Is there any chance that your relative would be willing to let you scani it and post it here for us to see?
i am rather puzzled by wht you posted about the Marriage License. the ternsltion for Wpaha I believe means head or ht. I am not sure what Wapate translates to.
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Post by dawn on Apr 13, 2007 19:58:34 GMT -5
Hermin, great to see you back online. I know you were missed.
Dawn
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Post by kandi1 on Apr 13, 2007 20:20:13 GMT -5
First thanks to all of you for the help you have given!!! Once I have spoken with my relative I will get back with you about the marriage license. I don't have a scanner or the document with me. She lives in another city, but, we will be going to Kansas City next week. I'm sure she will give me a copy and maybe I can fax it.. Will get back with you about this, though. Again, Thank You!!!
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Post by poncalady on Apr 13, 2007 21:08:56 GMT -5
RE: JOHN B WAPAHA marriage license
Re: Reply #56 & 53. I have a copy of a marriage license for John B. Wapaha to Nancy Wakute. Not sure how to scan it and get it on this website, but if someone wants to contact me and walk me through it, I would be more than happy to post it. It states John Wapaha was 50 and Nancy Wakute (her married name from a previous husband) is 53. They are listed as Red, born in Minnesota and living in Knox County at the time of marriage. They were married on August 18, 1895 by William Holmes. Witnesses were Levi Trudell and Fannie Moose. The date Augus 17, 1895 is on the upper part of the license, so it is possible they were married that day instead of the 18th. His parents are shown as Father: Wa pa ha, Mother: Tahaza or Tahazu. Her parents are listed as Father: Hapuwatet or Hauwater and Mother Ho apt ka Snu Ru???
It says they were married at the Santee Agency, Neb.
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John's baptism, his father is listed as Iyahinhda and mother Tahaza. Now according to his marriage license his father is listed as Wapate. Is this Thomas Wabashaw?? If you could shed some light on this it would be greatly appreciated. They are still trying to connect. My email is ktsantee@msn.com Once I have heard from you I will give you her phone #. Again thank you for any help you might have for them. 
