Davis and Mitchell families

[hermin1]

mn1972l: thank you so much for your help.
the links work fine.

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Thank you very much. I'm gonna log on right now and look Iinto it .

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Judy many blessings for the hands up. Thank you both for. Your help here. Although I'm optimistic here and am hoping for the best . I have doubt's about establishing tribal affiliation to the Santee . all I was given was oral history from my grandmother (lueva) but I'll be at their pow wow in south Carolina this year depending on how money is. But I'm hoping to meet chief randy crummie and maybe I can find out more. U fortunately our people never had rolls or classifications no rez or anything like that. Even if I did Find something. We are still a tribe without a home. :-) and that's OK

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I went and found my great grandmothers brothers death certificate and found out mary davis maiden name listed as nowlin this is progress this is great

[mn1972]

Yes I noticed that and I thought that Nowlin sounds a lot like Golden.

Judy

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Judy I went and took a look at Bruce davis death certificate and blew it up onscreen . turns out his mother my great great great lol Mary davis was actually Mary Nowlin . that was her maiden name . I did a search on the name Nowlin and it came back that there were quite a few Saponi people with that last name . the saponni took in a lot of santee people ( linguistic ties) the story is starting to come together . proof that my grandmother wasn't crazy saying we were santee lol . that's some good detective work there Judy . the name also shows up in Canada . same Nolan's. ? Not sure . but Jackie told me to keep my eye fixed on Canada records too . love shame I lost the link that she gave me and I haven't heard back from Jackie yet. Im beginning to suspect that some of our southeastern relatives may have gotten around. But its hard to navigate and there is a lot to read . I still can't see straight. Lol

Wopida unkeneciyapi

[hermin1]

santee1971: see if you can make contact with the tribal enrollment person for the tribe.
Are you sure Rachel's name was not hermarried name/ Do you knowif she remarried after Adam died?

[hermin1]

here is a link to info on the Saponi Tribe, which is now extinct:

www.accessgenealogy.com/native/saponi-tribe.htm

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Hermin1 I'm not sure as to whether or not Rachel remarried after Adam died . I'm not really sure as to who crossed over first. As for the saponi , well ? I registered with saponitown.com and started posting and reading the forum threads . its a new account and I'm just hearing back from people as of today. The mystery deepens doesn't it ? On a more spiritual note . night before last I was shown the name " Du Chien" or Duchane " as if it was a name written out in front of me on a piece of cardboard . then when I registered with saponitown.com I posted and immediately a member who had been studying the Santee of south carolina sent me a link to a thread . the very last post on the board mentions " an agent at the prairie Du Chien"by the name of. Joseph street" last year I sweated with Richard Street from devils lake . a descendant ? Maybe . but there is something going on here with me and I dont know why it came to mind in rearing the thread . but the 40 Dakota warriors hung in mankato popped into my head and I started to wonder if people fled east during the Sioux uprising or did people from the east head that way for whatever reason. I still get the feeling I'm sitting in top of something big here and can't put my finger on it. I was in mankato last yr in December with arvol looking horse and Dakota 38 riders at land of memories park. They did a roll call of all 40 warriors . and there was a name called that I felt connected to somehow. While we go online and seek Info there's some other stuff going on here spiritually too. My family had to have traveled to the Dakotas and Minnesota. Not wishful thinking. I just can't prove it . really strange powerful and beautiful stuff going on as we dig for more facts

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All I know is that Rachel was born a davis and when she married Adam it changed to singleton . but according to Bruce's death certificate Rachel's mother's last name was Nowlin . can I ask u a question ? Do u know whether or not there may have been Nowlins living at prairie Du Chien ? Or somewhere in minnesota ?

[hermin1]

I will see if I can dig up anything on the surname in Wisconsin and Minnesota.
did you check out that rootsweb site link I sent you for Adam singleton?
Wikipedia writes that the Saponi were an extinct tribe. I didn't find any Bruce singleton listed with Rachel and/or Adam in the censuses I found.
You must remember, Rachel and Adam also had a daughter Rachel.

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Just now getting this at 11:42 pm az time
( didn't know I had a mssg) not Bruce singleton but a Bruce davis. I'll inbox you the death certificate . the link I was sent was a paid site . I think I may be able to open an account tomorrow .

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Saponi website appears to have been a dead end. Ive gotten plenty of profile views but nothing more. And no responses regarding the last name of Nowlin . ( Mary Nowlin Rachel's mom) ive been over sites repeatedly . and have even gone as far as to contact the Clarendon county archives (very unhelpful there) I would try salt lake city genealogical society . what would really help I believe would be Rachel Singletons/Davis death certificate . I'm guessing north carolina would have it since she left sc to live with daughter Luella and son in law later vann. I read on here that Rachel passed away in 1945 .
With Rachel being born in 1865 and dying in 1945 that would put her at 80 yrs old when she crossed over ( with respect to my ancestor ) ive been racking my brain trying to remember if there was a clue in my grandmothers story about Rachel. Her trails gone cold here . and beginning to consider throwing in the towel . maybe they consciously didn't want future generations to know of their whereabouts or to find them in history or to acknowledge them in anyway. Maybe there isn't anything out there at all for me to find and I should let the dead stay buried . but I was guided to it by something . or someone. . according to my grandmother " lueva " her grandmother Rachel was a very popular woman . she was some kind of town healer and worked with herbs in both south and north carolina . her husband Adam singleton up to a certain age would go into the woods and cut firewood and sell it to make a. Living .on the side of the road in Wilmington nc . and was known to the locals as " pappy" I also think its very interesting that as my grandmother told me about our family she went back as far as she could and worked her way forward thru each generation describing struggles on both sides of her family .she sounded pretty proud of her grandparents achievements on both sides. Her father's and mother s . the biggest and most loudest was in her telling me the story of how grandma Rachel had nineteen children and how eight of them died. Leaving eleven kids . growing up finding partners . leaving home to dif parts of the south.and having families of their own. She also said that her mother Luella had a habit of visiting the sick and infirmed . that Rachel actually also knew words in her own language but not completely . I was looking at the word " Saponi" it almost reminds me of the word "Sapo" in Lakota meaning " black" or murky" to me the word ni " is always somehow related to water . like " black water ". Like the winyah people of south carolina. Their word for water was wee-nee weh-ni to be more proper when not spelling things out phonetically. These three. Saponi. Santee and winyah people all had the language in common I found out later . but anyway I'm texting too much here . wish I knew more. A bible. A probate record . something :-(

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I'm gonna have to give up here. I doubt I'll find anything . there's a whole 10 or twenty years or so missing out of the census and Adam and Rachel just up and disappear from the whole state of south carolina. Just vanished and I have no idea where they lived . there were rumors about travel to the Midwest but that's all they were. Was rumors .

[hermin1]

what a small world.
I recently was asked to find the family of a woman whose last name was Davis.She was born in Iowa ,but was adopted at a young age by a white couple.maybe it is a coincidence.
her descendent is a mixed blood, and I suspect he may be part black and part Indian. I will check with the descendanT and see if they would consider sharing information with you. The

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That would be nice . it would be something if I found out my family really did travel to these parts of the country .and even more miraculous if it turned out we were related. Somebody did mention once a good way to search was via probate records (whatever those mean) but where to begin? North carolina where Rachel singleton passed away ? Or where she was born ?

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Hermin1 gm . I never did ask you , but did u ever hear back from Davis descendant from Iowa or was it just coincidence that we were researching the same surname? Are they open to having a discussion ?