Isaac Dion/Williams/Cigawasase/Little Brave

[hermin1]

I love dogs, but can not hve a dog where I live. there are 3 Frank Stays. there is Frank SR., then there is Frank jr, and then there is Frank Jr. son frankX. Stay.

[hermin1]

does Nancy's probate record say when and where she was married to this Frank Stay?

[tamara]

A letter dated 1914 questions the validity of an indian custom divorce as between an indian woman and her white husband... Testimony of witnesses so far shows that
Nancy Stay Paul was married to Frank Stay a white man prior to the first allottment on this reservation; that htey seperated according to inidan custom prior to the first allottment; that nancy Stay Paul then married john Waanatan or Paul... latering married Moses Tamacokewaste about 1891 by ceremony until her death in the latter part of 1912. nancy Stay paul, after living with moses tamakocewaste all these years aobtained a divorce in court from Frank Stay on Feb 1, 1912. The question is was her indian custom separation from Frank Stay a valid divorce....

next letter;

Referring to your letter.... From the records of this office, it appears that this allottee was married by ceremony to Frank Stay a white man, in 1865 after having lived with him in accordance with indian custom for a period of ten years, and that she was perareated from him in accordance with indian custom in 1866, subsequently marrying John Waanatan...

Testemony of Jennie Grant

-Nancy Stay Paul died about two years ago at the age of about 80..
-how many times married? seven times
1st husband -Inyan died before the outbreak of 62, I dont know his age.
no children and seperated at the time of his death
2nd huband Wasicunhanska.. died before the outbreak.
no children
3rd husband -Wicarca died right after the outbreak in prison
married indian custom before the outbreak
they were not living together at the time of his death as he was taken to prison.
one child, chaske.. died before the father.
4th husband Otanna or Elias Gilbert living
they lived together until she married Stay
one child, chaske died in infancy
5th husband -Frank Stay, living , I do not know his age
-is Frank Stay a white man? -a french man
How and when were they married? By ceremony, by Mr Riggs along time ago.. long before the allottment.
Tell me how you know they were married? They were married at a missianry meeting, where they and others were married, I was present..
How and when did they seperate? She left him and came up here befor the first allottment.
Did she ever live with him after that? No
Were they ever legally divorced? She got her divorce about three years ago in the courts of Sisseton.
How many children did Frank Stay and Nancy Stay Paul have?
Seven
Boy died in infancy.
Boy no name died in infancy
Girl died long ago at about one year old
4th child Mary Stay
w/o Alexis Renville (his second wife was Emma Grass)
5th child Louisa Stay Robertons
6th child Frank Stay , died 14 years ago, I do not know his age, he was a young man.
no marriage and no children
7th child boy died right after its birth

6th Husband of Nancy Stay , John Waanatan
tells that he froze to death while up north while away from home between the time of the two allottments.

What relation are you to nancy stay paul? Her mother was my mothers sister.
7th husband Moses Tamacokewaste.
Was nancy stay paul ever married to a whiteman by the name of Capa?
I do not know but she said so.
Did Nancy Stay Paul ever have a child by the name of Capa or Capawin?
yes
Who was the father of that child?
She said that the father of that child was a white man by the name of Capa.
When did she live with him?
I do not know.
Is capawin living or dead
died before her mother
how many times was she married?
onece to Samuel Renville, living.

they discuss Louisa Heduta as having been raised by Jennie Grants mother and she states that she came and took her back to Devils Lake.


What was your mother's name?
nancy Tukandutawin
With whom was Louisa Heduta staying in Lidgerwood?
Eliza Morran.
States that Louisa has a brother named Abraham Heduta.

later testimony of Egugenie Benjamin
States the mother of Mary Stay to be Mnihdihewin... do not know her english name.


later testimony of Joseph Hart
states John Waanatan to be named John Paul or Ipawega.
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Well, that should be enough to show why I am now puzzled. lol
Tamara

[bruledude04]

hermin1
I have not found anything about a Mary Spider (Lali), who was suppose to be married to Antoine Zephier Rencountre, you told me that on the phone the other evening when we were visiting, as she is my g.g.grandmother, g.grandmother to my grandmother Emma Quilt La Roche. So Please,HELP , HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Louis, bruledude04

[hermin1]

bruledude04 said:

hermin1
I have not found anything about a Mary Spider (Lali), who was suppose to be married to Antoine Zephier Rencountre, you told me that on the phone the other evening when we were visiting, as she is my g.g.grandmother, g.grandmother to my grandmother Emma Quilt La Roche. So Please,HELP , HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Louis, bruledude04

Here I come to save the day. Mighty mouse is on her way> just kidding.
Antoine Zephier/Recountre, Sr. was married twice:
First to Lali or Day, born 1848 Dakota Territory, and they had Mary, Lillian marion, Alexis alexander, and elizabeth RZephier Recountre.
With his second wife, Mary Spider, they had David Zephier(Recountre).

Reference: www.family search.org

[hermin1]

tamara; that makes sense,because i have Frank Jettis Stay,Sr., mrrying Cecelia Campbell in apr. 1880 in Minnesota.Cecelia was first married to Joseph Charrnon or cjarron Oct. a866 at St. Peter, MN and they had 5 kids.
Reference is through Dakota Eyes.
this may means that he may have been married to two women at the same time, Anna Hunka and Nancy. that is the only way I can hoepefully explain this.
does this make snese to you, or should I go stand in the corner andwatch some videos? just kidding.

[deanndion]

I was hoping someone could help me, I am looking for any information on my relatives. John Ward Dion (father), Alfred Dion (great-grandfather), Eunice Williams (great-grandmother), my other great great grandparents are as follows... Joseph Isaac Dion(Deon) & Hatti Williams (Kinsmaniwin), James (Hanpawanjina) & Lizzie Williams, John Williams (cigawiase-little brave) & Ijiwin. Afraid of his Plume & Wiocan, Wanyeca & Wayankapiwin, Bone Necklace & Mazotwin.
I would appericate any information that could help me. Thank-you so very much...DeAnn

[dawn]

Hi, Deanndion. I think if you take a look at some of the other sections on the site you will find some of the people you are looking for. Also to help us help you could you provide us with as many details on the people you have listed as possible, such as, date of birth, where they might have been born or last known town they lived in. Anything will help.

Thank you.

Dawn

[hermin1]

hermin1 said:

tamara; that makes sense,because i have Frank Jettis Stay,Sr., mrrying Cecelia Campbell in apr. 1880 in Minnesota.Cecelia was first married to Joseph Charrnon or cjarron Oct. a866 at St. Peter, MN and they had 5 kids.
Reference is through Dakota Eyes.
this may means that he may have been married to two women at the same time, Anna Hunka and Nancy. that is the only way I can hoepefully explain this.
does this make sense to you, or should I go stand in the corner and watch some videos? just kidding.

I goofed again. It's a good thing I decided to go to the corner. Tamara, I did not mean to say that he was marrried to two women at the same time, because he deserted Anna Hunka in 1862 and hot foot it to fort Ridgely. What I was thinking is that he must have married Nancy while he was still scouting for Sibley( see his narrative in through Dakota eyes, and a prior posting regarding him on our website).

[hermin1]

deann: If you know @ when and where he died, you may be able to find an obituary for your father.. As Dawn said others have posted information on a lot of the names hat you seek information on at our website, check there first. you can also start with your own records, such as a birth certificate which would tellyou who his wife was, if you don't already know this information.I get the impression that you were either estranged from your father and his family, or you were adopted out .if you do know who your mother was( please don't misunderstand me, I amwondering if your mother and father were divorced before or after you were born, start there and work back from her and see what records you can find that list both of them and/or members of her family.

[deanndion]

i was not adopted my mother kept us away from my dads heritage. my father john dion D.ob 5/5/1916 his father was alfred dion d.o.b 1886 d.o.d1/22/1964 alfreds father was joseph isaac dion d.o.b.1866 d.o.d ? joseph married hattie williams d.ob 1869 d.o.d.4/9/1927 hatties mother and father was john williams d.o.b ? d.o.d7/8/1909 her mother jijiwin d.o.b.? d.o.d 6/8/1897. my fathers mother eunice williams d.o.b ? d.o.d 12/31/1954 her mother james williams and lizzie williams james d.ob.1855 d.od.7/19/1913. lizzie d.o.b.1858. d.o.d.1918 james father i think was afraid of his plum d.ob.1836 d.o.d 2/28/1924 his mother wiocan. lizzies father and mother . father wanyeca d.o.b ?dod? mother wayankapiwin d.o.b.1819? d.o.d.1910. her mother and father was chief bone necklace and mother mazotwin . i dont know the births and deaths of the two. wayankapiwin had a brother D.K how. and also a brother named chief white ghost i dont know if there are any more children. this is all i know and have papers on this. if you could tell me any more i would greatly appreciate it. im trying to do a famly tree for my brother and sister, thank you so much deann.

[poncalady]

Here is the info I found on John W. Dion WWII Army Enlistment record. There is also listed a John J. Dion born 1885 listed on theWWI Enlistment Records from Gregroy, SD. May be a relative. I have copied it below John W. I also copied Alfred on the 1920 US Census in South Dakota. Hope it helps.

U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
about John W Dion
Name: John W Dion
Birth Year: 1916
Race: American Indian, citizen (American)
Nativity State or Country: South Dakota
State: South Dakota
County or City: Charles Mix

Enlistment Date: 25 Aug 1944
Enlistment State: Minnesota
Enlistment City: Fort Snelling
Branch: No branch assignment
Branch Code: No branch assignment
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life

Education: Grammar school
Civil Occupation: Geographer
Marital Status: Married
Height: 80
Weight: 000
John J Dion
City: Not Stated
County: Gregory
State: South Dakota
Birth Date: 20 Mar 1885
Race: Indian (Native American)
Roll: 1877792
His wife's name is Amy.

1920 US Census listing for Alfred Dion is:
Alfred Dion
Home in 1920: White Swan, Charles Mix, South Dakota
Age: 39 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Birthplace: South Dakota
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's name: Isaac J
Father's Birth Place: South Dakota
Mother's name: Hattie
Mother's Birth Place: South Dakota
Marital Status: Divorced
Race: Indian (Native American)
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 937
Household Members: Name Age
Isaac J Dion 57
Hattie Dion 55
Alfred Dion 39
William Dion 20
Sybil E Highrok 18
Philip D Dion 10
Delmer Arrow 8
Pearl Dion 5
Ward Dion 3 4/12
Joseph Highrock 1 9/12

[Jimmy]

Poncalady, I don't believe that John J. Dion is related to your Dions. John was born 28 March 1885 on the Rosebud Reservation and died 27 September 1968 in Grawn, Grand Traverse County, Michigan. He was the son of Oliver Dion and Susan Langdeau. Oliver Dion was the son of John Dion and Sophia Bonveaux. John married (1st) Amy E. Mullen (1886-1948, daughter of Frank Mullen and Jennie Colombe), he married (2nd) Hattie Trudell (1885-1968, daughter of Levi Trudell and Emily Colombe). Do any of these names sound familiar? I have been trying to link this family to the other Dions, but have been unable to so far.

[Jimmy]

Here is John J. Dion's ancestry: trudellgen.proboards52.com/index.cgi?board=collateral&action=display&thread=1176415490

[poncalady]

I found a Mrs. Augusta Kennedy, Occ. housekeeping, F (female) resides: Wabasha, Wabasha Co. Signed 19 Dec, 1899 with children listed ast Victoria Dion age 17 years and Theodore Dion, age 15 years. These may or may not be relatives, but I thought I would post them just in case. Info from the Flandreau Papers book.

[hermin1]

Jimmy: I believe poncalady was helping deandion in re. to John Ward Dion. but your information is still significant.
As for Joseph Isaak/isaac Dion, I have him dying in 1950, in South Dakota, and his father was Samuel dion .Information I found on our website, I think, re. Chief Bone necklace is that he had the following children: Buffalo or white Ghost, DogBack, FastWalker, Wizi, D.K. Howe(Don't Know Howe) and a daughter who maried a Sully.
DK Howe is listed on the 1886 Crow Creek Census ,buffalo SD as heae of family, wife Uncagewin , and children : elen, Mary, Armine, Luke, and Joseph.
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I also have a eunice williams Age 4, and her brother Joseph williams age9 months listd on the1889 Lower Yankton sioux,Crow Creek Agency Census, without any parents. I don't know if this is the Eunice williams you are looking for deanndion, bu that is all I have been able to find.
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I have a white ghost aka Wanagiska Age 62 listed with wife Hinapewin age 46, and daughter Yellow Eyes age 7 on the 1889 Lower Yankton Sioux, Crow creek agency Census.
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You say that you have the papers on this? but you did not specify what these ppapers are.
it appears that you should check out the St. paul's Mission at Marty,SDfor the dions and the Williams surnames, and the Crow Creek Agency Censuses for theothers you seek.

[DeAnn Dion]

hi this is DeAnn , i did go to the yankton sioux tribe and they gave the family tree of my dad john w. dion. how ever they didn't know who isaach /josehp isaach family was; his parents and where they came from. also who are john williams family and where did they come from.jijiwins family i know nothing about. yes, i did go to crow creek and they helped me a lot . james williams i dont know if i really do have his parents names right it was just a wild guess from the records. I also obtained a copy of index and heirship card on mrs sully/wayankapiwin and it states that her father and mother are bone necklace and mazolawin but dont know where they came from. did also find papers saying that hattie dion was getting payments from pipestone really dont know to much about that. did the williams come from minnesota?. dont know much of that. not to get me wrong i do know some things but not on lookings things up and where to go to find them. i sure dont know much about this computor but im learning. thank yous for helping and looking forward to here of some more information. thank yous again.

[poncalady]

Yes, Jimmy, hermin1 was right. I am not searching for the Dion's but just thought I would add anything I can to help someone else in their search.
There is a listing on the South Dakota Marriage records #170263, Reg. #1284 for Isaac Dion age 77 widower, marrying Sarah Zephier age 61 widow at Lake Andes, Charles Mix County, South Dakota. It states that he is from Lake Andes and she is from Ravinna. It also shows they were married by Rev. Ambrose Mettingley. Catholic priest from Marty, S. D.
Hope this helps someone. The Jacob Isaacs I came across were white men, so no help there.
As always, I hope someone can use this information and thanks to everyone else here who has been so kind to help me and the others.

[hermin1]

poncalady: that was a great find!!!. thanks for sharing it with othersa.

[hermin1]

deanndion: I did some more digging and found the following at Ancestry.com:
James Williams Age55 born 1855 ND, Father born Montana, Mother Born SO.
Also listed with him re :
spouse Lizzie Age53 born @1857
Eunice Williams Age 16
Johnnie Wiliams Age 1
Susan Williams Age 18
Anna williams Age 6l
lda Williams Age 10
Ref. 1900 US Census Twp. 106,Buffalo,SD
James, his eife, Eunce, and Susan also show up on the 1910 uS Census for Crow Creek ,Buffalo,SD
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i found John Wadw Dion at the age of 14, his father Alfred Dion, Alfred's second wife Lillian, living with Alfred's father Isaak Dion and Isaak was in his 70's at the time.
then after this I lost track of John Wade Dion, until I found his WWII enlistment Record, as poncalady so generously posted above.
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Afraid of His Plume, I found at the age of 77, born @1833 in S.D., father born ND, mother b. SD.
Also listed with him was his spouse Trwin Wanolewas(sp) age 74, born ND., Father born SD, mother Born ND.
the ref. is the 1910 Standing Rock Reservation, Morton, North Dakota.
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deann: it is very possible that John Williams came from Minnesot for his daghter Hattie to have been collecting annutiies or renatal from Piptestone, Minn. there is an Indian reservation there, I think.

i tried to find anEnglish translation for JiJiwin, but the Dakota dictionary Online does not have any did not have anything for Jjiji. I aslo could not find any translation for Mazotwin. I am thinking that the latter may be Mazatewin?
A place that may be able to help you, but you have to go there, is the South Dakota Historical Society at Pierre,SD. and see whatthey have on the Sully family.
the other thing is to log into www.familysearch.org and first register yourself for a username and apassword(this is free website). then type in the surname sully and see wht you come 8pp with.
if you have a Family History Center near you , or a public library with access to the Internet, you can log into ancestry.com for free and do a search for your ancestors. for John Williams, I would guess at his DOB, but I think all you have to do on the library website is type in his name and the state you are looking for. In that case, try first for Minnesota , and then try South Dakota. do the same for Hattie Williams.