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Post by cmathews on Feb 25, 2007 13:39:03 GMT -5
Looking for more information on these people:
Joseph ISAAC Dion - born 1867 died 1950
Hattie Williams - born 1869 died 1927
I have Isaac's parents listed on one census as father: white/born in Canada (another says Colorado) and his mother is Sioux born in Canada (another says SD). Family history is that his father is Samuel Dion and he was part of Standing Rock and/or Pine Ridge, but I have no proof of this. Also, somewhere along the line, I've seen his mother as Tashunkamam?
For Hattie, I know her father was Cigawasase/Little Brave/John Williams and he died 7/8/1909. Her mother has been seen listed as Jijiwin, Paijiji (Batism records) and Ziziwin and she died 6/8/1897.
I've seen on a baptism record from St. Philips dated 5/12/1873, John Williams is 40 from Medicine Creek Hawk and his parents are Cigawasase and Tamahecawin. From this I'm guessing he was born around 1833. Also in the some records, his daughters were baptized: Sally (Aupeturatiwin) 16, Francis (Winyanwastuna) 13 (She marries James Irving later), and Hatty (Kinsmaniwin) 4, but nothing on his wife, Paijiji.
On the 1900 US Census, it lists Isaak Dion, Hattie, Alfred, Samuel, and William with a John HENRY as father-in-law and James Erving and Francis listed right after.
Isaac Dion and Hattie were both listed with the Yankton tribe.
Any help/advice on any of these?
Thank you!
Carla
cmathews@gwtc.net
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Post by Jimmy on Feb 25, 2007 14:04:47 GMT -5
I found a Samuel Dion living at Pine Ridge, but he was only a couple of years older than Isaac.
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Post by bruledude04 on Mar 16, 2007 8:26:56 GMT -5
cmatthews, I also am trying to find info on g.g.grandmother tasunkamaniwin who was supposedly married to Sam Dion they had 2 daughters Julia & Mary. Julia Dion , married Peter St. Pierre, who are my g.grandparents, and they had a son Oliver St. Pierre, who is my Mother's father, and her name was Vera St. Pierre La Roche. I am Louis La Roche.
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 16, 2007 9:55:54 GMT -5
Carla: he you checked out the Father Boecken baptismal records that are posted elsewhere on this site by Jimmy? I believe but am not sure,that Jimmy also posted a dion Family Tree that Father Dan Matlon done. I do know that Jimmy has posted the tree onthe Zephier/Recountre family also on our web site. You might also try www.rootsweb.com and select the world connect project link to see if someone may have submitted a tree on the dion Family. also check with the St. Paul's Mission at Marty ,as they may also have records onthe Dions as well. |
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 16, 2007 18:05:30 GMT -5
My records indicate that Isaac had a sister named Mary who married David Zephier/Recountres, SR. After shedied, he married a woman named Emma ?. My records also indicate that Isaac married Emma Zephier after her husband David Zephier ,Sr. died. I am thinking that Marty ,SD the St. paul's Mission archives would hae information you need on Isaac, because the Zephiers were well known there, and they did help the Catholics allot with their work. the S.D. Historiacal society at Pierre may also have isaac's Heirship papers on microfilm, if you don't already have it. I searched for several hours at my haunts to see what I could find on Joseph Isaac Dion and got just the same information you got Carla at Ancestry.com there are a handfulof Samuel Dions listed at www.rootsweb.com all born in Canada tht I found. Noneof them islisted as married to Tasunkamaniwin, fi she didn't have an English name also. Plese don't forget to follow BigJon's advice. |
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Post by bruledude04 on Mar 17, 2007 9:02:39 GMT -5
Hermom1, thanks for the info Mary & Isaac, must have been my g.grandmother's sister ( Julia) . Also David Zephier Rencountre, was also my Dad's Grandmother's sister (Elizabeth Rencountre). Whew!! I'm getting confused in other words we're all related. Amen. bruledude04
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Post by bruledude04 on Mar 17, 2007 9:03:58 GMT -5
Hermin1 thanks for the info Mary & Isaac, must have been my g.grandmother's sister ( Julia) . Also David Zephier Rencountre, was also my Dad's Grandmother's sister (Elizabeth Rencountre). Whew!! I'm getting confused in other words we're all related. Amen. bruledude04
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Post by bruledude04 on Mar 21, 2007 10:19:20 GMT -5
cmathews, in respond to your post I am wondering if Isaac Dion, can be a brother to my gr,grandmother, Julia Dion St. Pierre, her mother was Tasunkemaniwin, and her mother was Susan Longfoot. Julia, had a sister named Mary Dion Zephier, who was married to David Zephier (Rencountre). Would like to know if they might have been brother and sisters? bruledude04
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 21, 2007 11:54:22 GMT -5
bruledude)4 : I would be glad to help you with your tree if youneed helpgetting people straight. Send me what you have to my email at dakounas@yahoo.com and I will do what I can to help you straighten who's who and related to who's who.
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 21, 2007 12:07:20 GMT -5
cmathews, in respond to your post I am wondering if Isaac Dion, can be a brother to my gr,grandmother, Julia Dion St. Pierre, her mother was Tasunkemaniwin, and her mother was Susan Longfoot. Julia, had a sister named Mary Dion Zephier, who was married to David Zephier (Rencountre). Would like to know if they might have been brother and sisters? bruledude04 bruledude04: I found a Julia St. Pierre,wife of Peter St. Pierre in the 1900 US Census ,Wahehe,Chas-Mix,Sd. she is listed as age 51, born Nov. 1858 in S. Dakota. Her spouse,peter is listed at age 51, born Sept, 1848 also born SD. their children were Emma, Jessie, Lyons, elizabeth, Jesse(son), Lawrence, and Edward. could this be your Julia? Hermin1 |
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Post by bruledude04 on Mar 21, 2007 14:18:35 GMT -5
Hermin1 Yes, that's my g.grandmother Julia Dion St. Pierre, I'm just wondering if Isaac Dion, is her brother. And why he wasn't listed as a son of Samuel Dion, as mt 2 other g.grandmothers were. Where is where it says Tasunkemani, was his mother, I would like to see it myself, because if it's true, their grandparents were Susan Longfoot, and Longfoot. I guess I have many questions, but don't know where to start.
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Post by cmathews on Mar 23, 2007 20:54:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the leading information hermin1 and Louis :-) I have no information on Isaac's siblings, so this is good news! I am going to check out the other resources mentioned and see what I can find. I was at Pierre Monday and Tuesday and did find something where Joseph Isaac Dion was mentioned in "The Little Bronzed Angel" in 1926 as living there in Marty and I believe his grandson was quoted in a separate book that referenced TLBA. I gave the sheets of paper to my friend that I'm doing the research on, so I don't have it right in front of me to quote it. I had written down that Isaac's father was white from Canada and his mother was Sioux from Canada and in TLBA was referenced that he was French Canadian.
My information states that Isaac Dion married Hattie Williams in 1883. She died in 1927. Then he married Sarah Zephier in 1934 in Charles Mix Co.
I did note on my family tree paper that Isaac's mother's name was Tashunkamam, but I have no idea why I wrote that down or where that source came from as I'm pretty sure the name is not right due to the spelling and the fact that I'm new to this research stuff :-)
Thanks again for all your input and potential leads
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Post by cmathews on Mar 23, 2007 22:15:07 GMT -5
Carla: he you checked out the Father Boecken baptismal records that are posted elsewhere on this site by Jimmy? I've been searching all over this site and cannot find the baptismal records from Father Boecken. Can you help direct me? Thanks! Carla |
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Post by Vicky on Mar 23, 2007 22:29:34 GMT -5
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Post by cmathews on Mar 23, 2007 23:24:30 GMT -5
Thank you Vicky!!!
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 24, 2007 1:52:31 GMT -5
yes indeeed thank you so much Vicky. I know I posted something on Father Hoecken and then Jimmie found the copies of those trees and the other stuff from the Histoical Society in Pierre ,SD. I couldn't remember where jimmie postewd them.
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 24, 2007 2:21:43 GMT -5
Hermin1 Yes, that's my g.grandmother Julia Dion St. Pierre, I'm just wondering if Isaac Dion, is her brother. And why he wasn't listed as a son of Samuel Dion, as mt 2 other g.grandmothers were. Where is where it says Tasunkemani, was his mother, I would like to see it myself, because if it's true, their grandparents were Susan Longfoot, and Longfoot. I guess I have many questions, but don't know where to start. As i recall, some time ago you had askedd for help with finding information on Peter Longfoot and his wife Julia. I know Ididn't find much back then to help you, but then I didn't know then that Peter was a son of Chief War Eagle either. I also didn't realize that there was another Longfoot aka sihahanska who was married to anna Hunka(shelater married Frank Jettis-Stay). What you do is start with the Now and work backward on your family lines on your mother's side and then on your father's side., puttin in information tjhat you now have on whomever is on your tree. I have found that a file of Index cards really helps in making up a family tree. I put the person's name at the top and then add whatever informtion I have on him/her and reference them ususally. Once in a while I forget to reference the naterial, so I have to go back and search until I find the reference source. try this and see how you come out. I also have a Cross-Index of cards, with names and how the persons relate to others in my main Index.I am now able to start putting together some full or partial family trees of the some 1000+ cards in my Index file, and my cross Index. I hope this helps.. |
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Post by tamara on Mar 24, 2007 16:48:23 GMT -5
Hermin1 Yes, that's my g.grandmother Julia Dion St. Pierre, I'm just wondering if Isaac Dion, is her brother. And why he wasn't listed as a son of Samuel Dion, as mt 2 other g.grandmothers were. Where is where it says Tasunkemani, was his mother, I would like to see it myself, because if it's true, their grandparents were Susan Longfoot, and Longfoot. I guess I have many questions, but don't know where to start. As i recall, some time ago you had askedd for help with finding information on Peter Longfoot and his wife Julia. I know Ididn't find much back then to help you, but then I didn't know then that Peter was a son of Chief War Eagle either. I also didn't realize that there was another Longfoot aka sihahanska who was married to anna Hunka(shelater married Frank Jettis-Stay). What you do is start with the Now and work backward on your family lines on your mother's side and then on your father's side., puttin in information tjhat you now have on whomever is on your tree. I have found that a file of Index cards really helps in making up a family tree. I put the person's name at the top and then add whatever informtion I have on him/her and reference them ususally. Once in a while I forget to reference the naterial, so I have to go back and search until I find the reference source. try this and see how you come out. I also have a Cross-Index of cards, with names and how the persons relate to others in my main Index.I am now able to start putting together some full or partial family trees of the some 1000+ cards in my Index file, and my cross Index. I hope this helps.. Hmmm.... Hermin1, I am not aware of Anna Hunka having married Sihahanska. could you be mistaken? (I was once... lol) This is my family line as well and according to the information given to me from her probate -section Recommendation as to finding heirs: 2nd paragraph: It appears from the evidence adduced at the hearing that the decedant died aug 3, 1921 unmarried but with issue survign that she had been married twice, first to a white man named Francis Stay before 1862 (two children Josephine Frenier and Frank Stay) divorced by Indian custom in 1862 that her second husband was William Siyaka... |
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 25, 2007 14:50:13 GMT -5
As i recall, some time ago you had askedd for help with finding information on Peter Longfoot and his wife Julia. I know Ididn't find much back then to help you, but then I didn't know then that Peter was a son of Chief War Eagle either. I also didn't realize that there was another Longfoot aka sihahanska who was married to anna Hunka(shelater married Frank Jettis-Stay). What you do is start with the Now and work backward on your family lines on your mother's side and then on your father's side., puttin in information tjhat you now have on whomever is on your tree. I have found that a file of Index cards really helps in making up a family tree. I put the person's name at the top and then add whatever informtion I have on him/her and reference them ususally. Once in a while I forget to reference the naterial, so I have to go back and search until I find the reference source. try this and see how you come out. I also have a Cross-Index of cards, with names and how the persons relate to others in my main Index.I am now able to start putting together some full or partial family trees of the some 1000+ cards in my Index file, and my cross Index. I hope this helps.. Hmmm.... Hermin1, I am not aware of Anna Hunka having married Sihahanska. could you be mistaken? (I was once... lol) This is my family line as well and according to the information given to me from her probate -section Recommendation as to finding heirs: 2nd paragraph: It appears from the evidence adduced at the hearing that the decedant died aug 3, 1921 unmarried but with issue survign that she had been married twice, first to a white man named Francis Stay before 1862 (two children Josephine Frenier and Frank Stay) divorced by Indian custom in 1862 that her second husband was William. UnI posted the data and the data is uner her name ann Tamara: you are correct. Siha Hanska's second wife was Cekpawin. I must have been having a senior moment. Thanks for correcting my blooper. I will go stand in the corner again.  Can I borrow your remote control to watch some videos? |
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Post by tamara on Mar 25, 2007 16:34:02 GMT -5
Hmmm.... Hermin1, I am not aware of Anna Hunka having married Sihahanska. could you be mistaken? (I was once... lol) This is my family line as well and according to the information given to me from her probate -section Recommendation as to finding heirs: 2nd paragraph: It appears from the evidence adduced at the hearing that the decedant died aug 3, 1921 unmarried but with issue survign that she had been married twice, first to a white man named Francis Stay before 1862 (two children Josephine Frenier and Frank Stay) divorced by Indian custom in 1862 that her second husband was William. UnI posted the data and the data is uner her name ann Tamara: you are correct. Siha Hanska's second wife was Cekpawin. I must have been having a senior moment. Thanks for correcting my blooper. I will go stand in the corner again. Can I borrow your remote control to watch some videos? aaaw thats okay, I know you know I am looking to make sense of the Frank Stay line as what I had always thought I knew was blown apart by my ancestor, Nancy Stay Paul's probate info. It says that Nancy Stay later Paul was married to Frank Stay (white man) and legally obtained a divorce in the first part of 1900's. So her daughter Louisa Stay Robertson was not the daughter of the younger Frank Stay as I thought. The descendants of Frank Stay Jr/Jetty had told me that my family did not show in their records or family tree, either. So I look for any clues on them and Anna Hunka. You can have my remote or anything else you would like.... how bout a shitzu/maltese? lovely dog, but tends to bark at my neighbor in her garden..... |
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