sihahanska/Longfoot

[roddickfan]

I am looking for any information that anyone might have or know of on sihahanska,(longfoot) he was a scout and he had two children, goodstar woman (wicanhpiwastewin), and white shell, not to sure about white shells indian name. any information at all would be helpful
thanks

[vmarier]

Re: Sihahanska/Longfoot
He is number 97 and 98 on the Elrod's list of Indian soldiers and scouts. They listed both names. Here is the exact listing.

97. Sihahanska (crossed out)
a. Wi-can-rpi-wax-te-win, daughter
b. Sun-ka-hi-ya-hi-pi, son

98. Long Foot (a.k.a. Si-ha-han-ska#97)
a. White Shell, son
b. Good Star, daughter

This list is printed in issue 34 of Minnesota Genealogical Journal and it is also on microfilm at the Minnesota Historical Society. They also have the journal if you want to copy it or buy the whole issue from Park Genealogical Books. vmarier

[hermin1]

I have a Sihahnanska whose history goes like this:
He died about 1874 at the age of 70.

sihahanska's second spouse was Cekpawin, who died Dec. 20, 1892 at the age of 68(BIA Records).
They had 5 children of which Tukiska, or White Shell (died March 16, 1894) was one.

His first spouse Winyandutawin or Red Woman, died May 15, 1899. They had 2 children: Skawin or White Woman, died June 26, 1897, age 11, and Pahasapa or Black Hair, or Susan White Shell, died Sept. 20, 1905, age 17,no marriage, no children.

His second spouse was Deaf Woman or Looking At, died Nov. 22, 1897. They had 2 children:
Yellow Bird died Feb. 21, 1893 age 5 or 6, and Felix White Shell or Austin Clear, Crow Creek Allottee #259, died january 23, 1911, age 19. Not married, and no children.

sihanska's 5th spouse, was Wasuhdihewin(died before 1862),and they had one daughter, Wicanhpiwstewin, or Good Star Woman. She died oct. 14, 1910 at the age of 79.
First spouse: itina died about 1891. they had 6 children:
Ihaiyotankewin or iraiyotankewin,living at the time of the probate.
Wayahapa or Wayarapa, died 1907 or 1908. She was married three times:
spouse 1:Pisto or whipporwill died before she did. they had ason John Whipporwill, living age 25 or 26.

spouse 2: titkanahota or grey bird, living. they had one child, Bessie Whipporwill, died Dec. 29, 1901, age 18(Records), not married and no issue.
spouse 3: Nakpagi(or Brown Ear) living age 50. their three children died in infancy.

[tamara]

There was also a pdf of this roll out there, somenice person was kind enought to share it. Titled Dakota Scouts.

[vmarier]

Lots of nice people on this forum. vmarier

[roddickfan]

thank you so much for all the information, i did not know most of it but i do know that nakpagi my ggg grandfather was a brother to wayahapa, and Ihaiyotankewin. I was wondering do you have a probate that you looking at hermin1, if you do i was wondering if i could get a copy of it..
thanks so much

[wbyno]

Hello to all you "longfoot " descendants and helpful people that have information on "si ha han ska".

I was wondering if some of you might help me? The " longfoot I am looking for is also known as Afraid of Hawk Sr. or Fearless Hawk according to the probates in crow creek his (nick name) was "longfoot" could this be the same one?

would who ever reads this and has this information please e-mail me? I would surely appreciate it.

My e-mail is [e-mail] I will be looking for you, Thanks

[denney]

Go to-( Re: help not on 1886 census ) page 14 about 3/4 down page is a list of search engines I just typed that name in (si ha han ska)and it pulled up all Kinds of stuff.

wbyno said:

Hello to all you "longfoot " descendants and helpful people that have information on "si ha han ska".

I was wondering if some of you might help me? The " longfoot I am looking for is also known as Afraid of Hawk Sr. or Fearless Hawk according to the probates in crow creek his (nick name) was "longfoot" could this be the same one?

would who ever reads this and has this information please e-mail me? I would surely appreciate it.

My e-mail is [e-mail] I will be looking for you, Thanks

[santee1961]

I think there may be some Afraid of Hawks in Pine Ridge or there used to be. I don't know if the Tribal offices can help or not. It may depend on each location as I have had varied results. Good luck.

[ed50]

Hi relatives and friends, for those of you still looking for info on your family tree, I have the James McLaughlin rolls of the census he did in 1917, and was published in 1923. It contains 2,691 names of the Mdewakanton names who were descendent's. I found it at the Minnesota Historical library in St. Paul,MN. You have to ask for it, and it is on microfilm roll 405, roll 2. It doesn't give a lot of Indian names, but a lot of white names and the degree of blood and where they were living.
Carolyn Ruth Anderson wrote a dissertation an unpublished book, about the 1862-63 uprising and the 1886-89 census. There are many references of letters of Bishop Whipple the Indian Agents and Washington DC concerning land and annuities payments, to native Americans many references about Indian names and white names through that time period. The name of the desertion is "Dakota Identity", I called the Bell Howell Company and asked to get a copy of it. That number is 800-521-0600. Very interesting and informative?
Hope this info will help some of you out there. The Minnesota Historic library has a copy also that you can ask for and read it at the library.

[tamara]

hey, thanks for sharing , I love new information and hadnt read anything of the dissertation by Carolyn Ruth Anderson. how many pages of it and what does it cost calling the 800 number?

[hermin1]

Tamara: Another good reference is LacQue Parle, Its Missionaries,Traders and Indians. It has a whole slew of names in it.and goes back to the late 1700's and on up to the Uprising.

[ed50]

Hi everyone, I believe the dissertation is a cost of $41.00 dollars for the loose pages, and 70 something if you want the soft cover, and 90 something for the hard cover book. Believe me she did some extensive work on that era of time. Very interesting about who the land was meant for and doesn't appear the rightful individuals ever were able to get it.
I don't know about anybody else who has gotten another law firm to represent them, but we did and it is interesting what I heard back about this El rod's scouts list. Sounds to me like the judge is taking a hard look at that list. My feeling is why did they not get anything whether they were mixed blood or full blood, sounds to me like they gave up quit a bit when they decided to work with the government. When I read about some of the stories about how they were not excepted by their own people, and of course the white majority did not want them either. I can't imagine how scary life must of been for them. I hear them being called "loyalist" or "friendlies" but other than the government or army it appears not many of them got any recognition.

[tamara]

eunicedavidson50 said:

Hi everyone, I believe the dissertation is a cost of $41.00 dollars for the loose pages, and 70 something if you want the soft cover, and 90 something for the hard cover book. Believe me she did some extensive work on that era of time. Very interesting about who the land was meant for and doesn't appear the rightful individuals ever were able to get it.
I don't know about anybody else who has gotten another law firm to represent them, but we did and it is interesting what I heard back about this El rod's scouts list. Sounds to me like the judge is taking a hard look at that list. My feeling is why did they not get anything whether they were mixed blood or full blood, sounds to me like they gave up quit a bit when they decided to work with the government. When I read about some of the stories about how they were not excepted by their own people, and of course the white majority did not want them either. I can't imagine how scary life must of been for them. I hear them being called "loyalist" or "friendlies" but other than the government or army it appears not many of them got any recognition.

"preaching to the choir" comes to mind!! LOL I need a copy of this and will sell any and all fishing equiptment, and dirt bike with size xl men's gear to get it!!

[ed50]

Tamara, thank you for the reference to Lac Parle, can you tell me if you can get that in a library or a book store or wherever? I would like to take a look at those names. As for your comment on the fishing equipment I am not sure what your meaning is? I was just giving a reference for people to check on information.

[tamara]

sorry, didnt mean to confuse you. hermin1 referenced the book I am also going to try to scrape up funds for. I really want to see that disertation and would sell what I view as useless junk in my garage to get more funding for them, like alot of people on this board I spend a chunk of living expenses on historical books and documents, and dont know how I might come up with the funds for more..
speaking of fundraising. I have some preteen girls here on the Sisseton Reservation that would like to do a fund raiser for families in Crow Creek. They are pretty serious about doing a "Brat Stand" next weekend and have been looking for a "cause". Is there any organization in the community that could use whatever money these little girls can come up with? the have a little group they fancy to be junior humanitarians.

[tamara]

all bad jokes aside... I actually I do have some book stash money and would really like to see the papers you mention, how fast would they arrive? have you ordered them yourself?

[hermin1]

so far I have been able to find one place that has the book re. Lac qui Parle. The Browns Valley Public Library in Browns Valley,MN. It can be checked oout for 2 weeks. I gueess you have to go on a waiting list to check it out it is so popular.
A friend here has asked our local library toget it on Interlibrary loan. she siad she would copy the whole book off before she returned it.
the bookis very old, and I believe, out of Print.

[tamara]

hermin1 said:

so far I have been able to find one place that has the book re. Lac qui Parle. The Browns Valley Public Library in Browns Valley,MN. It can be checked oout for 2 weeks. I gueess you have to go on a waiting list to check it out it is so popular.
A friend here has asked our local library toget it on Interlibrary loan. she siad she would copy the whole book off before she returned it.
the bookis very old, and I believe, out of Print.

LOL ... wonder if Grandma would like to go for a drive down to the Valley tomorrow!!! My luck it would checked out. But nice to know where to find it and you can be I will be on the list!

Tamara

[mona]

tamara, that is really thoughtful of you to think of crow creek. the problems down here are overwhelming but the new council are trying to do business honestly and are giving reports to the public which shows us where we are at financially is way down into a big hole. the council cut their salary and are working with a skeleton crew right now. but some families don't have any income $0 money and have had their electricity cut off. the council have allowed the people that do not have air conditioning or vehicles to stay at the tribal hall in the daytime (which is air conditioned) and given them food also. we've gotten our twept program cut and GA program is cut way down. Add to that no jobs and the housing issuing court letters and it is very overwhelming. my sister is really worried about getting her electricity bill paid by the 1st, has been out of work for three months now, used her unemployment up, has two grandchildren and three children at home, her husband works at the school part time but won't start until september. they sold all of anything of value and has been looking for work on a daily basis. their car broke down and cost hundreds to fix. we've (her family) helped what we could but my job end on the 31st and my children couldn't get summer jobs this summer and all five of my sisters have no jobs now. there is hope and faith. we like work and like getting our bills paid. i think the main problem that families down here worry the most about is getting their electricity paid as we have the second highest electricity rates in the u.s. and when it is shut off, our food spoils and it gets hotter than a oven in the house. so it touched the bottom of my heart to read that your children are thinking of others. mona