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Post by bgwahinkpe on Jun 5, 2006 17:15:21 GMT -5
I am helping a friend search for her ancestor. She said her name is Mary Goulet and has found her only in the Hampton Records and also found out that she married Rev. Rondell of the Episcopal church. I dont have any yearly dates. Thanks, bwahinkpe
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Post by arduinna on Jun 5, 2006 18:24:42 GMT -5
hello bgwahinkpe
Mary Goulet is also my husband's ancestor (Great-great-grandmother). Like mentioned, she married Rev. John 'Jondya' Rondell. Their daughter Rosa Rondell married Silas Aungie. Their daughter Victoria Delphine Aungie married Antoine Zephier.
This note we got from a researcher, Jon Brudvig, researching the history of the Hampton Indian Students.
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<<Mary Winona Goulet Keith: Daughter of Maggie. Also attended Hampton, but Maggie expressly indicated that she did not want her daughter participating in the summer outings where students were sent to New England to work on farms or do household chores for white families (yet file notes two summers spent in MA). Student file includes her picture. File indicates two marriages, one to John Randall--(Ft. Randall named for him, divorced in 1895) and a second marriage to James Williams (Yellow Bear). Had two boys.>>
This is all we have right now.
Hope this helps your friend.
arduinna
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Post by bgwahinkpe on Jun 6, 2006 14:16:31 GMT -5
Are you saying that Mary Rondell also married someone by the name of Randall also. Or is that what the Hampton Institute is saying??? Thank You so very m uch for your information. Im sure it is goign to make my friend very happy to recieve that info. BgWahinkpe  |
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Post by arduinna on Jun 6, 2006 15:34:43 GMT -5
Yes, Mary Goulet Married John Rondell. Those are my husband's Great-great-grandparents. This marriage is also mentioned in the Hampton files. We too did not know that Mary had another marriage! This is one of the awesome results of this wonderful oyate research center. Time again to thank all the generous and busy people with big hearts, who make this unique gathering place possible!!!  arduinna |
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Post by arduinna on Jun 6, 2006 15:37:47 GMT -5
PS. I think Randall is a miss-spelling of Rondell(e). Old man Rondelle was a fur trader of french descendent. We did not yet follow up on his history. Times to come...  |
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Post by Curtis Kitto "MIKE" on Jun 6, 2006 16:06:22 GMT -5
Arduinna,
I too, have a different spelling of Randall. Francis Raundelle (GGGGrandfather) and Felix Rondelle is my GGGrandfather. Please keep me in mind and copy me should you find information on either him or his son.
They lived in DAY County South Dakota. I believe him to be the first Wasicu in that area.
MIKE
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Post by Deanna Gomez on Jun 6, 2006 16:29:56 GMT -5
To whom was Mary Goulet married to ?
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Post by arduinna on Jun 6, 2006 22:46:56 GMT -5
To Mike: Francis Rondelle was actually a french fur trader, wasicu indeed. In French, it is Francois Rondelle. There is a bunch of information on the internet. I did not yet follow this up in details, but I will do that, and keep you posted. Francois' son was Felix Rondell. One of Felix Rondell's sons was John 'Jondya' Rondell, Episcopal minister, and husband of Mary Goulet. They were the parents of Rosa Rondell. So much for right now. arduinna  |
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Post by arduinna on Jun 6, 2006 23:05:11 GMT -5
To Mike and fellow Rondell researcher: François Rondell's Post (1835 - 1851), near Columbia A trading post 25 miles northeast of Aberdeen on the James River. A monument is located in Rondell Park. Previously called James R. Brown's Post (1) and Oakwood Post. www.geocities.com/naforts/sd.htmlRondell’s post 1866 (43) Francois Rondell had a trade store at Oakwood (Talles Chenes) in 1866. This was about or on the point where Leblancs post of 1836-37 was located. There is a monument at this site. www.sdhistory.org/mus/ed/ed%20fur13.htmlFrom: History of Day Co. SD <<The first white settler to come to this region was Francis Randell, (Rondell). He came to New Orleans from France in 1858. From here he proceeded up the Mississippi River to St. Louis, where he came into the employment of the American Fur Co. His company sent him up the Missouri river to Sioux City; then he proceeded up the James river, establishing a post in Brown County, which still bears his name. Mr. Randell soon established himself among the Sisseton Indians who were able to furnish him with plenty of furs. These Indians had for a long time dealt with white traders, since it is generally accepted that a fur trading post had been established in the early years of 1800, by Colonel Robert Dickson, in the vicinity of White Rock. The people with whom he traded soon became his people and he entered into their life wholeheartedly, exercising quite an influence among them. According to a custom among the Indians, any man possessing means was entitled to as many wives as he could support. Mr. Randell married not less than five Indian women. Due to the ever-growing scarcity of game he made his permanent home in the county about the year 1870, building a log cabin on the peninsula of Rush Lake. Mr. Randell was born 1814 and died 1896. He was laid to rest in the cemetery of the Indian church at Enemy Swim Lake. Many of his descendants still reside in Day County. >> www.usgennet.org/usa/sd/state/day_county/chapter4-1.htmlDay Co SD History and related links: www.rootsweb.com/~sdday/1880 Census Day Co. SD 89 Waubay T9-0112 482B Self RONDELL Francis 69 M W WD Farming FRAN FRAN FRAN www.rootsweb.com/~sdday/1880census.htmlTO BE CONTINUED... arduinna  |
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Post by tamara on Jun 6, 2006 23:08:30 GMT -5
I have noticed the John Rondell in other records and have had some questions on whether or not it is the same John Rondell you are thinking of Mr Kitto. I know I have recently promised copies of a book I have and really need to get that information to you. The reason I question John Rondell is because he at one point was married to my ancestor Jennie Barse Keeble and it would seem that he only lived in the Sisseton area. Arduinna, do you have verification that the John Rondell husband on Mary Goulet is descendant of Mr Rondell? I have heard it said that Mr Rondell had many wives and in various places...
Tamara
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Post by tamara on Jun 7, 2006 0:41:00 GMT -5
The following is from the book History of Day County published by the Day County history committee not to be mistaken for the book of the same name by Ochsenrieter
page 549
Francois Rondell
(sometimes spelled Raundelle)
One of the first white men, if not THE first man, known to be in the Waubay area, is Francois Rondell. he was born in 1814 at Marseille, France. he and his brother, orphans, were raised and employed by their uncle in the shipping business. About 1839 they journeyed to the New Orleans, Louisiana, the great New World. They came up the river to St Louis and the brother located there; Francois (Francis) came up the Mississippi that spring in a keel boat. At this time he was employed by the American Fur Company, controlled by John Jacob Astor. In 1941 (this must be a typo) he purchased a store at Warrior's Camp, afterwards called Rondell Post Office, located southwest of Aberdeen. This is now known as Fort Randall.
In 1845 or '46 he established a trading post at Chamberlain and in 1850 he built a trading post on Rush Lake about 1 1/2 miles west of Waubay - the foundation of this still stands. Francois Rondell had at one time, three trading posts and three indian wives.
After the New Ulm massacre in 1862, the Rondell family temporarily migrated to Sisseton. His son Felix remained in this vicinity and he and his wife, Cecelia, had five children; Mary, Louise; John; Julia; Mrs. Al Owens: and Esther.
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Post by arduinna on Jun 7, 2006 0:47:49 GMT -5
Tamara I would have to dig through censuses, but as far as I know, and remember, I saw (one of...) Francois Rondell's family listed with his son Felix, and Felix Rondell's family with his (daughters and) sons - one of them John Rondell. By the way, Francois seemed to have settled at Enemy Lake, around today Enemy Swim. Give me some time to do verification. As I posted above from the Day Co SD history, Francois had indeed several wifes. This seems to have been the French fur trader's custom (and later the Scot, British and Irish), to keep the foot into the doors with the tiyospaye they were trading with - kind of 'politics'. This is also one reason, why it is so difficult to trace your ancestors back to the biological parents. Obviously, not every white father produced 'proper' paperwork for their offspring! later, arduinna |
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Post by bgwahinkpe on Jun 7, 2006 2:54:55 GMT -5
AWESOME!! WOW!! YOU GUYS ARE THE GREATEST RESESRCHERS!!!! Thank you very very much!!!!
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Post by arduinna on Jun 7, 2006 10:24:22 GMT -5
I have noticed the John Rondell in other records and have had some questions on whether or not it is the same John Rondell you are thinking of Mr Kitto. I know I have recently promised copies of a book I have and really need to get that information to you. The reason I question John Rondell is because he at one point was married to my ancestor Jennie Barse Keeble and it would seem that he only lived in the Sisseton area. Arduinna, do you have verification that the John Rondell husband on Mary Goulet is descendant of Mr Rondell? I have heard it said that Mr Rondell had many wives and in various places... Tamara Tamara Mary (Goulet) Rondell and John Rondell divorced 1895. When was John Rondell married to your ancestor Jennie Barse Keeble? However, Mary G. remarried after this divorce, too. Just a thought. arduinna  |
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Post by arduinna on Jun 7, 2006 10:43:22 GMT -5
Here's something to check out, it is a history or souvenir booklet from Waubay: www.rootsweb.com/~sdday/waubay.htmThose names, among others, are indexed: Barse DeCoteau Ebersole Good Elk Hayes Randall Cora Rondell Francois, 1st citizen of Waubay, and spouse Cecelia Rondell Mary, daughter Rondell Louise, daughter Rondell John, son Rondell Julia, daughter (Mrs. Owens) Rondell Esther, daughter Have fun arduinna  |
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Post by hermin1 on Jun 7, 2006 11:05:38 GMT -5
I don't know if this helps, but I found the following in the family tree of Ihduricewin:
Her first spouse was Catkakinjin(d. bef. 1862).
they had 2children:
a boy-died in infancy,before allotments.
Cecelia Rondall- d. Nov. 11,1909
her spouse: Felix F. Rondall
children:
Mary L. Rondall(now Campbell)
Louisa-died Age 6 in 1890
Julia M. Rondall(now Owens)
Susan Rondall-died 1889 age 1 yr
Esther R. Rondall(now Rabeau)
Guy K. Rondall-died 1895, Age 2 yrs.
Phoebe T. rondall-died Apr. 31,1912, Age 17
Winfield Scott Rondall
Ella Rondall
Agnes Rondall-died July 5,1913 , Age 8 yrs.
Mike and everyone, I apologize there should be an e not an a before the 2 l's. It is Rondell.Darn, I am getting old I CAN'T READ MY OWN WRITING. HA HA
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Post by hermin1 on Jun 7, 2006 11:20:29 GMT -5
tamara: here is what i found on a JohnKebble(Keeble)aka John buffalo Kebble:
aka Wamnuha. died Feb. 12,1910,Age 74
His first spouse was Ihduricewin-she died 1903.
they had 3 children, but 2 of them died small. the third was Ida Buffalo. she died at age 42 in 1913.
His second spouse was Onatanmaniwin.
they had 9 children:
Richard Kebble d. 1913 Age 46
spouse: Jennie Barse Kebble
children: Jonas
Lydia
David
James
Mabel
Helen
Wallace
2nd child: John B. Kebble
3rd: George Kebble
4th: Annie kebble or Buffalo died 1892,age 18 yrs.
her spouse:John A. Barse. their child died in infancy.
5th: Jacob Kebble died, age 12
6th:Joseph Kebble died age 12 yrs.
7th:Hdinapewin or Rice. died age 6 yrs.
8th: Lilly Kebble(Gray)
9th:tatankahomaron-died before 1891,age 5 yrs.
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Post by tamara on Jun 7, 2006 12:47:23 GMT -5
Excellent, matches what I have to a T! Do you mind if I ask your source of where you found that information. It is information that relates directly to Mr Kitto's family. Cecelia is their ancestor.
Another question. John Rondell has caught my interest now and I am wondering in your research if you see a different family than the Pickrel Lake/ Sisseton Reservation one. To my knowledge the John Rondell that shows in Cecelia's family was never a minister. I am bit confused. Any thoughts on that?
Tamara
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Post by tamara on Jun 7, 2006 12:49:03 GMT -5
I have been blessed with this previously elusive booklet and it does contain a picture of "Old John" Barse and some information on Mr Rondell.
Tamara
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Post by hermin1 on Jun 7, 2006 13:12:39 GMT -5
The source is my notes that I copied from the the Probate of the Heirships of Daniel Cetanmani, who died Feb. 6,1890 Age 62 years old.
would his name translate to Walking Eagle or Hawk?
I don't have any thoughts re. John Rondall. the probate doesn't mention anything about what his occupation was.
The probate goes into detail about who John Pebble's family was, and also who Ihduriciwin's family also. It also details Daniel Cetanmani's immediate family history as well.It also included testimony from several witnesses at the probate hearing.
does your book on Inkpaduta give any details about his family? I would be really interested in what you may have.
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