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Post by taz5150nd on Jul 6, 2006 13:03:55 GMT -5
Does anyone have any information on the RedDay family from Albert RedDay to present? I have all the information up to Albert and I am in need of either his birth record or baptismal records. This is badly needed by my wifes family. We know Albert was a part of the mdwankanton but have no hard evidence that states he was there. He was married to Louisa Hapan. Both born in the 1850's |
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 7, 2006 8:06:48 GMT -5
albert Redday died 12 Nov. 1911,in Roberts County,SD
His daughter,Eunice Jane Redday was born Feb. 13,1897. Father : Albert Redday, mother: Louisa Hapan.
I found Albert and Louisa with children:Joshua and Eunice Redday living in Norway Twp, Roberts,SD in the 1910 US Census for Norway, Roberts, SD
In 1900 US Census, Albert and family were living in Dumarce,Marshall,SD
As for a baptismal record, you may want to check with Jackie Hahn aka Peacekeeper. You don't say where in MN he was born, which makes a search for his baptismal record much more difficult.
I would see if you can get a copyof his probate from Sisseton BIA office. There are Reddays still living in Minnesota. I would try and contact tthem and see if they may know something about his family.
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 7, 2006 8:07:42 GMT -5
You maight also check the church baptismal,etc. records on line.
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Post by taz5150nd on Jul 7, 2006 11:20:49 GMT -5
Thank you. We do have all of that information. As to the date and place of Albert's birth we are still trying to locate that information. The BIA in Sisseton was not very helpful when I called about his probate. We know Albert's father was Jonah RedDay (Apetuxa) and we also know the family has lineage to Mary Pay Pay. does anyone have anything with her ties? She is on the census. and does anyone know if her real name was Mazakoyakewin?
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 7, 2006 23:56:02 GMT -5
Maza means Iron, koyake means clothing or covered. Mary Paypay's Indian name was Tasinatopawin.
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 7, 2006 23:58:49 GMT -5
One of the Redday women was married to a Dumarce, according to my records.
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 8, 2006 0:05:49 GMT -5
I would suggest that you provide as much accurate information as possible to help us search for what you seek, instead of giving it out in bits and pieces, and assuming that we know something about the individual you are seeking information on.
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Post by taz5150nd on Jul 8, 2006 0:06:23 GMT -5
Which Dumarce? My records indicate some were married to Myrick's and a Dewolf plus there was a Christine Court-Cavanaugh.
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 8, 2006 0:09:32 GMT -5
You say you know that the family has lineage to Mary Paypay, but are asking if anyone knows the her ties? Sounds llike some creative genealogy going on here.
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 8, 2006 0:24:27 GMT -5
I appologize for my blooper, I meant to write Red Thunder. Harry Dumarce was married to Mary Redthunder.
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 8, 2006 0:27:27 GMT -5
Myricks? which Myrick? I know of an Andrew Myrick that was married to the daughter of Julia Stone.
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Post by taz5150nd on Jul 8, 2006 0:53:35 GMT -5
Ours is related to Frank Merrick/Myrick
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Post by tamara on Jul 8, 2006 1:20:08 GMT -5
Okay... I am interested now. I can see the ties to Mary PayPay. That would be through the Wilson line right! Sheesh... I wish I could clarify these ties as much as you all must want to, and I am not even a relative! -my stepdad is..
Here are the things I posted on Redday family on another thread
There is an Anpetudutawin listed as having an allotment record in the Sisseton Agency files
Anpetudutawin 361 (handwritten in 98)
shows no english name
Anpetusa (Jonah Redday) 1333
Redday names on this list
Redday, Anna (LaCroix) 403-700
Redday, Anna Max (Wicite) 387
Redday, Augusta 390-872
Redday, Abel (Manikiya) 809
Redday, Daniel 404
Redday, David 1334
Redday, Ella (Dumarce) 816-399
Redday, Emma (Dumarce) 870-389
Redday, Esther 401
Redday, James 869-388
Redday, John 394-811
Redday, Joseph 391
Redday, Enoch (Tiniyaye) 1198
Redday, Stella (Hisgun-Tamazakan) 529
Redday, Louisa 392
Redday, Mary 395-812
Redday, Marie (Wakanyuhewin) 958
Redday, Moses A 393-810
Redday, Joshua 397
Redday, Nancy 815
Redday, Nancy 871
Redday, Samuel (Hoyekiya) 813
Redday, Samuel Jr (Tatrmuyankuna) 400-814
Redday, Sara (Oiyotankewankanwin) 398
Redday, Sophia 402
Redday, William 699
Redday, Rose (Wilson) 396
Redday, Jonah (Anpetusa or Anpetuxa) 1333
If you notice, some of the numbers run together in families. Sort of like if they are allotted together and Anpetudutawin's allotment number does not run close to the Redday's family numbers. This might mean although her name is close she might not be of the same family. I am going to look a little more and post later.
I am posting this again as it has the few indian names for some of the Redday family members. I can also check the annuity rolls for names as well... those that I have anyway. Let me know what names you might want to look for.
Tamara
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Post by tamara on Jul 8, 2006 1:23:07 GMT -5
Notice the sisseton list of allotted persons shows
Manikiya to be Abel Redday not albert
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Post by tamara on Jul 8, 2006 1:28:56 GMT -5
cross referencing Manika shows this
Manika 363
Manika, Albert (abel- redday) 809
...makes sense...
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Post by derockbraine1 on Jul 8, 2006 9:12:54 GMT -5
Hi, this is derockbraine1, our GGGrandmother was Anpetudutawin, she married Andrew DeRockbraine and moved to StandingRock, to a small town, Bullhead, SD, they had their children in Minnesota.
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 8, 2006 23:39:58 GMT -5
Would you be so kind as to elucidate what these ties to Mary Paypay are? I am sorry I still don't see any ties.
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 9, 2006 1:02:09 GMT -5
kangiduta aka Red Crow
chief of the fish Eaters.
Born:1830 at the confluence of the Oldman and St. Mary Rivers, Canada
died: 1900 Blood Reserve, Alberta Canada
Grandfather was Two Suns
parents: Black Bear born1795 Indian Territory
Mother Handsome Woman born est. 1789-1811
Married: Water Bird Woman, b. @ 1834,Indian Territory,Alberta Canada. they married @1849-1869 Indian Territory, Alberta Canada
children:All born in Canada
Black Face chief
Crop Eareded Wolf
Frank Red Crow
No chief
Shaggy Hair woman
chief Moon
Ground diving Woman
Joseph Red Crow
Not an Owl
Noah Red Crow
Two chiefs
Crow Woman
_______________________________________
As for Redday :
I found 2 Samuel Reddays at Ancestry:
Samuel Redday born @1858 in Minn.
Residing in Dumarce,Marshall SD(1900 US Census)
died: 18 March 1909 marshall,SD
_____________________
Samuel Jr. Redday
born: April 1875 Veblen,Marshall SD.
spouse: Susan Redday
(ref. 1917 WW1 Draft Registration)
marriage record: Date: 11 April, 1917
Claire city,Roberts,SD
Spouse: Susan Able
__________________________________
Jonah Redday birth record:
State file No: 670083
County : Marshall
Father: Samuel Redday
Mother: Sarah Goodbird
Date: 1902/09/25
Filing Date: 1945/01/20
______________________
Jonah Redday was married at least twice:
Spouse 1: Alice Iron
Date: 16 Oct. 1929
Veblen, Marshall,SD
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spouse 2: hazel Derby
Date: 23 Dec. 1943
Veblen,Marshall, SD
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Jonah Redday
born:5 Sept. 1902
died Feb. 1989 at
Sisseton,Roberts,SD
(Ref. Soc. Sec. Death Index)
_______________________________
this is about as far as I can go in finding any information for you.
I was not able to find any link between this Chief Red Crow and the Redday surname.
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Post by tamara on Jul 9, 2006 1:17:36 GMT -5
kangiduta aka Red Crow chief of the fish Eaters. Born:1830 at the confluence of the Oldman and St. Mary Rivers, Canada died: 1900 Blood Reserve, Alberta Canada Grandfather was Two Suns parents: Black Bear born1795 Indian Territory Mother Handsome Woman born est. 1789-1811 Married: Water Bird Woman, b. @ 1834,Indian Territory,Alberta Canada. they married @1849-1869 Indian Territory, Alberta Canada children:All born in Canada Black Face chief Crop Eareded Wolf Frank Red Crow No chief Shaggy Hair woman chief Moon Ground diving Woman Joseph Red Crow Not an Owl Noah Red Crow Two chiefs Crow Woman _______________________________________ As for Redday : I found 2 Samuel Reddays at Ancestry: Samuel Redday born @1858 in Minn. Residing in Dumarce,Marshall SD(1900 US Census) died: 18 March 1909 marshall,SD _____________________ Samuel Jr. Redday born: April 1875 Veblen,Marshall SD. spouse: Susan Redday (ref. 1917 WW1 Draft Registration) marriage record: Date: 11 April, 1917 Claire city,Roberts,SD Spouse: Susan Able __________________________________ Jonah Redday birth record: State file No: 670083 County : Marshall Father: Samuel Redday Mother: Sarah Goodbird Date: 1902/09/25 Filing Date: 1945/01/20 ______________________ Jonah Redday was married at least twice: Spouse 1: Alice Iron Date: 16 Oct. 1929 Veblen, Marshall,SD ___ spouse 2: hazel Derby Date: 23 Dec. 1943 Veblen,Marshall, SD _____________ Jonah Redday born:5 Sept. 1902 died Feb. 1989 at Sisseton,Roberts,SD (Ref. Soc. Sec. Death Index) _______________________________ this is about as far as I can go in finding any information for you. I was not able to find any link between this Chief Red Crow and the Redday surname. Wow...you are amazing. I love it when you post things that make my jaw drop! Tamara |
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Post by tamara on Jul 9, 2006 1:29:38 GMT -5
I can post what I have seen. The younger descendants of the above mentioned Redday family have connections to Mary PayPay only through the daughters that married into the Wilson family. The Wilson children being the children of George PayPay and if one were to assume the children of Mary PayPay. Not wishing to ASSUME anything, I am yet struggling to figure out the exact line of Julia Wilson, who marries Paska or Titus White and has a daughter named Ella White...
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