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Post by swootz on May 5, 2006 11:36:56 GMT -5
Does anyone have any information about the annuity payments made to the descendents of the Sioux Scouts and Soldiers?
Thanks!
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Post by tamara on May 5, 2006 13:13:02 GMT -5
I have a copy of the appropriation act for such payment I had planned on scanning. I will get it done and get a copy to you. I did see they mention a letter from Sarah Good thunder.
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mona
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Post by mona on May 5, 2006 20:59:26 GMT -5
send me your snail address and i will send you some for postage and copies if you can mail me a copy. pidamaye.
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Post by tamara on May 5, 2006 21:06:09 GMT -5
send me your snail address and i will send you some for postage and copies if you can mail me a copy. pidamaye. Its pretty small and wont take more than a stamp to send. Sort of the size of the south dakota historical society books and looks like it must have come out of some sort book similar. Send me a private message or my email at ttordsen@aol.com and I will get an address from you. T
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Post by bgwahinkpe on May 5, 2006 23:58:51 GMT -5
Can I have a copy too. It would greatly appreciate it. I could send you a sase. Thanks
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Post by hermin1 on May 6, 2006 0:05:11 GMT -5
tamara that is a great find.
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beaver
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Post by beaver on May 6, 2006 16:16:03 GMT -5
could I also get a copy emailed to me? Thanks
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Post by peacekeeper on May 6, 2006 17:22:47 GMT -5
Tamara. Is it possible to just post it in a couple of posts so everyone can get a copy that could use one?
Thanks, Jackie
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Post by hermin1 on May 6, 2006 23:52:54 GMT -5
yes, I agree with you Jackie. Please make sure that you also include the reference source.
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Post by bobdu on May 7, 2006 11:36:50 GMT -5
were any of the scouts on the 1886 base roll?
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Post by tamara on May 7, 2006 19:20:31 GMT -5
What it is is a 6 page very yellowed report that was obviously taken from some sort of governement history book.
50th CONGRESS 1ST SESSION HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES REPORT NO. 1953
INDIANS WHO SERVED IN THE ARMY OF THE UNITED STATES
APRIL 24, 1888 - COMMITTED TO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION AND ORDERED TO BE PRINTED
MR PERRY, FROM TEH COMMITTEE ON INDIAN AFFAIRS, SUBMITTED THE FOLLOWING REPORT (TO ACCOMPANY BILL H.R. 9676)
The committee on Indian Affairs, to whom was referred the bill (H.R. 6464) for the relief of certain Sisseton and Wahpeton Sioux Indians who served in the armies of the United States against their own people, respectfully report teh following statement of facts, as set forth in teh letters of the honorable Secretary of the Interior and from the honorable commissioner of Indian Affairs, together with letters from General Sibley and Bishop Whipple, who were personally acquainted with teh facts herein set forth: also a letter from Sarah Goodthunder to Bishop Whipple, which makes its own unexpressed but most pathetick plea for the relief asked for in this bill for those who lost everything in their devotion to the whites, and who have so long suffered from teh wrongs we have inflicted upon them.
We also give a detailed statement of the obligations wea re under to these people an of the manner in which they were cruelly deprived of these rights, and respectfully submit that the remedy proposed in this bill is not what strict justice demands. The bill submitted by the Department as a substitute for bill H.R. 6464 we have amended so as to include as beneficiaries of this act with those who served as scouts in the armies acting against teh Sioux, members of the same bands who were at teh time of the outbreak serving in teh armies of the United States in teh war of the rebellion. We also think that the bill should be aso amended as to provide for twenty-seven annual payments, and not for twenty-five, as recommended by the department; for teh payments of 1862 and 1863 were never made to them, the outbreak occurring in August of 1862, before the money which was on the road for the purpose, reached the reservation, and that appropriated for the year 1863, before the outbreak occurred, was covered back into the Treasury, so the amount appropriated for the payment of these scouts and soldiers should include their pro rata share in teh payments due for those two years, which would be $36,800.
We recommend that the bill so amended do pass.
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Department of the Interior Washington, March 24, 1888
Sir: I have the honor to acknowledge the recieipt of your communication of 15th ultimo, inclosing, with request for information, H.R. 6464, "For the relief of certain Indians who served in teh armies of the United States again their own people when......
(this section and the following pages are very small print and so I will scan and send to thos who wish to view it. Please email me at TTordsen@aol.com and I will send)
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Post by dawn on May 8, 2006 18:27:34 GMT -5
Tamara, can I get a copy.
Dawn
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Post by tamara on May 8, 2006 19:03:10 GMT -5
Tamara, can I get a copy. Dawn I have them scanned and ready to send. Can you email me at TTordsen@aol.com and I will reply with them.
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Post by peacekeeper on May 9, 2006 15:19:28 GMT -5
Thanks Tamara. I got it.
Jackie
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Post by dawn on May 9, 2006 17:24:50 GMT -5
Thanks for the files.
Dawn
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Post by bonecklace on May 9, 2006 18:14:10 GMT -5
Tamara; Thank you , this is going to be interesting, as both my maternal and paternal
G- and GG-grandfathers were scouts.
bo
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Post by debbie on May 9, 2006 18:28:07 GMT -5
Tamara, I got the file! Thanks so much!
Debbie
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Post by Whirlwind In The House on May 10, 2006 19:04:07 GMT -5
Tamara, I have a scout document that reads Ce-ga-papi and am very interested in the papers you found. Also How would a person go about finding pardons for those whom were sent to Davenport. I am Connie Jean Big Eagle Blunt So Dak. 57522 Still researching..... And still have lots to find Thanks
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Post by wazi on May 10, 2006 22:59:28 GMT -5
Tamara, I have a scout document that reads Ce-ga-papi and am very interested in the papers you found. Also How would a person go about finding pardons for those whom were sent to Davenport. I am Connie Jean Big Eagle Blunt So Dak. 57522 Still researching..... And still have lots to find Thanks I believe Sara has alot of information on those who were pardoned. I have some stuff, who are you looking for? wazi
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Post by tamara on May 10, 2006 23:00:47 GMT -5
Tamara, I have a scout document that reads Ce-ga-papi and am very interested in the papers you found. Also How would a person go about finding pardons for those whom were sent to Davenport. I am Connie Jean Big Eagle Blunt So Dak. 57522 Still researching..... And still have lots to find Thanks I was just sent copies of the booklet from MHS on researching our native american ancestors. I had it buried in a file but a very nice man had made copies of it and mailed it to me along with a few other things relating to it. It clearly showed a number of good resources. I mention this as it gave a list that included many things that pertain to Davenport. I am sure Sara would better know what are the best resources, but I will post what I have read. Indians Imprisoned at Rock Island / Pardoned at Davenport Ia January 20th 1866 (Book) A list of 177 out of the 303 Dakota Indians imprisoned at Rock Island and later pardoned at Davenport, Iowa. The list gives the Indian name, a translation of the name by Samuel J Brown, and teh age of the person. One third of the 303 are estimated to have died in prison, and a several others either served their sentence or were pardoned earlier. The list appears in a Detailed Account of the Massacre by the Dakota Indians of MInnesota in 1862 by Marion Saterlee MnHS call number: E 83.85 s38 1923 or E 83.96 S38 1925
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