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Post by redbrother on Jul 31, 2006 20:14:04 GMT -5
It doubt that anyone was hoping that Mr Kaardal would be forced to take the intervenors as clients. And I hardly think anyone would want Dr Buttes to be the person to certify their documents. I would imagine that it would make more sense to have someone impartial. It would also seem reasonable that the court will decide what methods and whom would be used to actually certify the decided beneficiaries. Only the Kaardal clients are currently parties to the lawsuit according to the court, but that does not mean that they are determined to be beneficiaries as of yet. It isnt likely that the court would accept Dr Buttes certification alone, just as they wouldnt accept any genealogist the intervenors were to hire with out imposing some sort of certifying process of their own. I dont think anyone with a decent amount of reasoning powers thinks there wont be a waiting process. Very well said Tamara. |
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Post by redbrother on Jul 31, 2006 20:17:56 GMT -5
Hyland - I am really sorry if the fact that I posted a warning on this board offended you or anyone else. My intent was not to be a "tattle tale". My intent was to hopefully spare others the frustration of having CLeith modify their posts to read how HE WANTS THEM TO READ.... not what the poster actually posted. In any case, the matter is being dealt with. fancy1 I guess I don't see the point why ppl would visit the 1886 forum. It seems that the ppl who do, come back here and bring negativity to this board and post things like no one is giving facts about anything related to the case. If it is felt that there are no truths spoken there then why even post it here? If you see something that you or anyone thinks that is negative. Why feed fuel to the fire? Why even post anything there knowing that there are some who will throw words at you or anyone else to get you all upset and then you respond and back and forth. Why waste your time and energy? Please read my words with a kind/caring heart as that is how I wrote them. Just follow our officials and keep an eye on the real people behind this case and you will be well informed. It is natural for people to be impatient and wanting to go somewhere else to try to 'get the scoop' sort of speak, but stick to only what counts here and your heads will stay calm. I kind of sound like Wes Studi there, from the movie 'Mystery Men'.  |
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Post by hermin1 on Aug 2, 2006 0:51:47 GMT -5
There's an old saying: sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.
i relyon my cousin to tell me what the LD's are talking about on the other website.
there is another saying I heard long ago:
Everyone's queer but thee and me,
and me thinks thee is bit queer thyself.
So we'll let everyone be queer in their way,
and we'll be queer in ours.
Judge not that ye be also judged or something to that effect.
Our web site is a meeting place for people to exchange genealogical information with others who are searching for their roots. Let us keep that in mind. By resorting to the name calling as the other site has done, is to be stooping to their level, and believe me they are at a level so low, you'd get the" bends".All kidding aside. folks, we are a good bunch of people here, working towards one goal to help others find thieir ancestores, and identity.
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Post by tamara on Aug 2, 2006 11:44:49 GMT -5
... I like that!
Here's one my grandma says "you will reap what you sow"
... of course she is saying that to me as I am frustrated with my children or they have done something particularly obnoxious... but I think it could apply to other situations.
Here's another one Grams says to me when I say about my kids "They are driving me nuts!" she says "It would be a short trip!"
or when I say how incorrigable they are... "It's inherited"! to which I say "I suppose it could skip a couple generations!"... yeah, (... grandma, you reap what you sow too!! lol)
Ihad to modify this post as it formerly said READ what you sow instead of Reap....lol
tamara
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Post by mdenney on Aug 2, 2006 16:35:32 GMT -5
I got one...all my relations!
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Post by mdenney on Aug 2, 2006 16:38:17 GMT -5
In all that we are going through...no amount of fuel or name calling or EVIL thoughts could ever stop the case any way...so what is that guys point...this Leith person?
He is agitating my dots! lol
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Post by terry on Aug 2, 2006 23:04:16 GMT -5
Some things just never change,do they.
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Post by tamara on Aug 3, 2006 0:51:52 GMT -5
i am going to the SD historical society, anybody know of anything they have there that we might find useful? i am going to have to leave my grandmother/translator tomorrow so I can ask her a few more words if anyone cares to ask. I am going to ask her the recent ones and post what she tells me. Here is the word for the day. Puppy is Sunkpana. Or at least that is how it sounds. Also here is the closing of a letter in Dakota a man is writing to his girl.
Cante Waste Nape... interesting huh? Sort of like Sincerely but directly translated is Cante Waste - Good Heart and Nape is hand right? Has anyone ever run across this before? Oh, well, I wont wake Grandma up to ask, I will be a good takoja and wait until morning...
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Post by tamara on Aug 3, 2006 0:59:10 GMT -5
In all that we are going through...no amount of fuel or name calling or EVIL thoughts could ever stop the case any way...so what is that guys point...this Leith person? He is agitating my dots! lol Jamie, hurry and catch up! Hunta Hunta... we dont care about that anymore...  so, little brother, what is up in your world lately?, seems like you have been busy lately. I have not been to western country for awhile and have worried about fires and about the people up in Bear Butte camping. My guys stopped up there last weekend wanting to help and wound up going into town with Mr White Plume (I think) to get supplies etc. ... interesting converstations to say the least. I am jealous and I think I am missing out... but I am sure things are not over and done with yet and I will try to go too and see what I might be able to contribute. |
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Post by mdenney on Aug 30, 2006 12:35:41 GMT -5
So far we have from the Top:
Judge
Attorneys
Other Attorneys...how many...? To many...lol
Genealogist ?
(social-lites) ??
Plaintiff's/Intervention Plaintiff's ?? lol
If you take all attorneys we have you could take this to the BANK! That is if they all work together as ONE, rather then we are LD's and they are Intervention LD's....?
Hellooooooo...all the tools you need are here.
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Post by mdenney on Aug 30, 2006 12:40:13 GMT -5
Tamara your right I do need to catch up on this case...where is my PEN!? lol not that late I am...lol
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Post by tamara on Aug 30, 2006 15:12:04 GMT -5
lol, Jamie, I meant you were behind when you mentioned the stuff from the other board and were noticing it. I meant that we are not longer too concerned with what is said there as we have access to very good counsel and information on the lawsuit without having to sort through the other non informative type of posts. I feel that with a research focus and now access to good solid lawsuit information and updating, we no longer need to concern ourselves with what is said elsewhere. hmm... I think you are the one that told me that! Personally I havent gone to the other board since and have almost forgotten about it.
Tamara
PS um, I think your pen in in your pocket protecter!!! lol
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Post by Curtis Kitto "MIKE" on Aug 30, 2006 16:07:44 GMT -5
Well said, Tamara!
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Post by mdenney on Aug 30, 2006 18:39:59 GMT -5
cashmoney...where are ya
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Post by winona47 on Aug 30, 2006 19:42:44 GMT -5
Nothing new there, nothing new here.
The board is acting slow right now, not the participants, just the proboard. Somebody tinkering with it again?
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Post by hermin1 on Nov 14, 2006 1:40:00 GMT -5
i can't vote. My cousin posted a fact that Buttes ancestor John bluestone was himself one of the defendents tried at mankato, and Mr. Leith kicked my cousin off that board.
Another fact I want to report here, is that the McLaughlin roll also includes the Dakotas who were living in Minnesota as well, including Buttes's ancestors.. Therefore, Buttes and kaardal have no call to be trying to prevent the McLaughlin roll being used as a criteria for proving descendency.
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Post by tamara on Nov 14, 2006 11:37:42 GMT -5
From what I read on that board recently, we are missing nothing in the form of constructive information. It would even appear that even the most respectful and amazing persons are not spared hurtful comments and I find going there is only sad. Your cousin is missing nothing. I had wondered that as well about Mr Bluestone and again it speaks to the question of the intent of the appropriation acts. I think I have shared this before but it this is dated 1885 and still shows the focus to be rewarding those that were considered "loyal" or aided and assisted citizens of Minnesota. i105.photobucket.com/albums/m227/sdakotadiva/july21865.gifand what an interesting perspective on the McLaughlin Roll... makes sense to me! |
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Post by terry on Nov 20, 2006 9:02:25 GMT -5
some people just dont get it.Yes it is true,they probably did have family here,but they were asked to sever their tribal ties,pretty tough decision.The ones that agreed to this are the only ones who were on the census,ITS REALLY VERY SIMPLE.
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Post by tamara on Nov 20, 2006 14:37:09 GMT -5
Terry, you need to read the letter Judge Lettow is citing in the December opinion page 10.
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Post by terry on Nov 21, 2006 21:15:39 GMT -5
And your point is? Terry, you need to read the letter Judge Lettow is citing in the December opinion page 10. |
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