July 18th, personally I am delighted!! Jul 20, 2006 9:06:49 GMT -5
Post by tamara on Jul 20, 2006 9:06:49 GMT -5
What are the basics of the results of July 18th and what do we need from there? The way I understand things so far is that we have been granted consideration of the other lists or censuses. Personally, that alone pleases me greatly as I am sure Kaardal would have loved to have been able to proceed on without the Judge ever considering anything other than their perspective of things. I follow the remarks made by Carl Leith as they had referred to their message board as a means of notifying the public of the facts, but certainly take into consideration the source. Judging by the fact that they did not post what was said on the July 18th hearing until the following day, they must have been very stunned. The people there waited for him and word about the results but got nothing substantial for so long it seemed as if they didnt know what to say. I saw a number of them going to "chat" about things and one could and should assume that they were chatting about more than the weather, but very little information for their people. Amazing as I know some of the interveners has information from their attorneys as early as 2:00 PM that afternoon. If they work for them you would think they would inform them promptly. Mr KIA for "Know it all" posted early on that "the interveners MAY have a case", I think that part stunned everyone. There was also remarks about Lettow as having "rolled his eyes" at the other attorneys speaking, which reeks of disrespect for a Supreme Court Judge and the system our courts are based on. There was no breaking out the champagne, ordering US Marshalls to evict the residents of the Communities, or getting the "spending money" they spoke so often about. All of which pleases me as it indicates a strong dose of reality covering the entire issue and finally a sense of fairness. By calling the intervening parties "Ticks" they forget they are possibly referring to their relatives who lacked a "holy grail" of a document or something else that did not give them the blessings of Buttes' certification. They forget to honor the ancestors of others who were there alongside their own ancestors. There are many who watch this lawsuit progress for other reasons than trying to get "their piece of the pie" and They have been telling their people to not lose faith as the US and Kaardal will not allow the interveners to be a party without their okay they cannot join this lawsuit. It would seem to imply that they attorneys have some sort of decision making abilities and this to me is doubtful as it would make better sense that the Judge would have some say in the matter. I understand the need to "show just cause" and would expect that. It doesnt bother me a bit that it would be stated that the attorneys didnt follow procedure in filing a brief to show just cause as many such as Montana have not been allowed time to do so, when they represent people who recieve their denial notice a day before the hearing. It would seem that Montana is speaking directly to the perspective of Judge Lettow on the subject of the section of the December statement where he states that it would appear that there are some who are on the cencuses who should not be and some who are not that should. that is only fact and it is impossible to ignore Lettows words on that. Anyone else care to put their perspective of the results up for us to learn from?