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[cashmoney]

I have a relative who's close to the firm and said he's a little worried because Eric has been getting schooled in court (dispite what you would hear from Carl). The judge time and time again told Erick "you aren't to clear on the topic"

Erick appologized about 4-5 times to the judge for "not being clear"

[redbrother]

I'd like to see the court document on that one.

[mdenney]

cashmoney, the subject is not titled here? What is the case speculation about and what is the phase in RE: certification?

[mdenney]

For those who must know...check this out!

mdewakanton1886.proboards41.com/index.cgi

[mdenney]

And this if you want to know the RULES.

www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/Rules/05.08.02%20RULES%20FINAL.pdf

[jrandjb]

admin said:

For those who must know...check this out!

mdewakanton1886.proboards41.com/index.cgi

How do you get on this site? I tried to register and it says only staff can do that??? Does BB run this site too??

[mdenney]

Well, Carl is the main joe there. Carl is the man on that site, buttes can fold him. Here at Oyate exchange the options are the same, but I like people so I don't restrict to much. I will see what the restriction is doing...hold on.

[cashmoney]

The latest transcript notice that as soon as Kaardal started talking, the Judge questioned him about assuming an outcome of the case and that K's arguments inappropriately spoke to the merits of the case, suggesting that such discussions were premature. This further suggests that this lawsuit is far from over. Then later, the Judge cut off K's partner Mohrman not allowing him to push a particular argument on the record.

The feds wanted the privacy act protections so that the info produced
by the feds (the "lists" of potential LDs the US had in its possession) would
not be widely desseminated violating, we can assume, the privacy of the
individuals. The feds got what they wanted, because the lists are not
available to the public or any non-party and there must be some restrictions
on what Kaardal can do with the info. The purpose of the lists was to
allow Kaardal the chance to send these people the Notice of the lawsuit so
that potential plaintiffs could join if they chose to.

This is EXACTLY what my grandpa was trying to tell me. The judge is the only one we should listen to. If you listen to Carl Leith and Erick, you'd think a full takeover is weeks away (so start packing, ect)... Propaganda is running rampid on both sides, fueled by the other board. They (carl, ect) think it's a month away, in reality it's years away, and that's just for damages.

[mdenney]

Ok, I see...so then why the hurry to certify?

This was pulled off the site 1886.

ok..
i read that thread
thats not getting schooled

the 4/28 hearing was a combination of things
discussing procedure and the status of the US attorneys court-ordered
fact finding mission
the judge just reminded erick that this was a hearing and didnt want to discuss the merits
of the case right now

but, the 4/28 hearing was All erick anyway
and the judge let him speak and push a few points on the merits of the case
the US attorney couldnt and didnt come up with with anything specific to prove us wrong
he even came to Mn to look for a list
but there wasnt a list
the Dept of Interior didnt keep track of the trust beneficiairies past 1890

what he did come up with just supports our case
example...the cermak hearing in 1977

[mdenney]

cashmoney, you are a staff here. I do not doubt your grandpa or you. I am merely learning this as I go. So don't get mad thinking I turned on you or any one here, that will not happen. Remeber I may not be in period. So let us keep up the good work here.

[cashmoney]

Was that from Carl? He likes to church everything up or twist things into his favor. He's the main one (in my opinion) that assumes a lot on their board.

If you've been reading that board since 2003-ish, you'd know what I'm talking about. Carl has been saying for years "only weeks away" " only months away". He's the main person you can't listen to, he has absolutely NO CREDIBILITY

Carl doesn't know s***

[cashmoney]

Also the judge didnt' just remind Erick, he said quit assuming an outcome.

Like Mr. Leith, who has assumed an outcome since Oct. 2003.

[mdenney]

yeah it was.

[mdenney]

So, then why do they say 90% over?

[cashmoney]

Take whatever you read from Carl with a grain of salt. He's the perfect example of what my grandfather was warning us about. He hopes (like many of us) and tells us stuff like they are fact. I remember last summer he was telling everyone to get ready because millions were coming our way in a matter of 3-4 weeks.

I think you see the point here, Erick looked like a fool, yet Carl would say he dominated. 2003 "weeks away"...it's nearing 2007 and nothing and we're not closer than we were then (tribes are still not apart of the case).

I think someone with a little more credibility should be running that board.

[mdenney]

OK< yes I did see this pattern...

for years "only weeks away" " only months away".

And they say I'm looney tunes!

[cashmoney]

90%, according to Carl and his people. It's not. The tribes aren't even parties, thus no assets (no matter what Carl may tell you) can be touched or handed over.

Realistically and w/o the blinders, it's about 15-20% in the process. The way Carl explains stuff to people who don't know Indian Law or Law in general, it's amazing. Whatever happens this summer or next (or next..or next) it will be appealed appealed and appealed. It's going to drag.

[mdenney]

You are very right...me! Seriously you are right. I do see your conviction, and the ups and downs that he and others have created.

[cashmoney]

That's exactly what I'm getting at. He's creating false hope and that is just flat out wrong. He's making a lot of good people think they are millionairs in matter of weeeks/months, when that will never happen. Tell me that's not evil.

My grandfather has dealt with the U.S. Gov and Indian law since the late 50's, he would school Carl and as he would put it "slap the *** outta him" for doing what he's doing lol

[mdenney]

I was banned from that site...well just call it a CAMPBELL thing...I guess? I am cool over here with you all, trust me on this.