Resource for Prairie Island Settlement Records

[hermin1]

I ran across this records resource:
Church Of The Messiah(Episcopal)
1760 Chakya Street(mailling address: 21449 Co. 18 Boulevard)
Welch, MN 55089-6402
Phone: [phone] or 651/388-4886
Contact person: Mary Ellen Flynn,same address, second phone number
Congregation founded 1895. Church Built: 1905. Historic Nationality: Native American and Mixed
Does the church have its own cemetery? Yes burials are also done at Prairie Island Community Cemetery.
Records Held: Baptisms,Births, Confirmations, Marriages, deaths.
Records held at the church.
Can the public do research? NO. see contact person.
Are there fees for research done? No.( I would recommend a small donation)
Can the public copy records? Yes

[hermin1]

Re. Nancy Trudell listed on the 1886 Mdewakanton Enrollment list:
Source: Minnesota Historical Society Death Certificat Index:
Nancy Truedell
CertID #1917-MN-011351
County: Redwood
Date: 01/16/1917
Log n to Min.Hist. Soc. web site to get information on ordering copy of the certificate.
the web site also has search engines for birth certificates (starts with the year 1905), and Death Certificates.

[sherwynz]

Is there any information for Nancy St. Clair or Nancy Ampahdewin on this record. I am also looking for data regarding Isabella Smith as having owned some land in the Prairie Island settlement. Can you help me with info.?

[tamara]

I am sure that you have already reviewed the information... have you looked at Mark Diedrich's book Old Betsy? It has so much on St Clairs.

[hermin1]

sherwynz: I postd the information about the church and what records it has in its archives.
I also posted the contact information for you. Now why would you think a church would have land records?for land records you have to go to the Bureau of Land Mangement,Dept. of the Interior web site, which I don't have handy. Just type in Bureau of Land Management in your search engine and go to their main web site .

[sherwynz]

I got it. I did make a trip to Dr. Buttes office last week and did find lots of records, baptisms, marriages and birth records for most everyone in my search.
I am looking for the connection between Julia Smith, her mother Emma Smith and my GGGrandmother, Nancy St. Clair and her daughter, Isabella St. Clair/Blacksmith. SZ

[marnie]

I don't know if this will help or not, I have these notes to myself I don't even know where they are from:
Joshua Johnson parents -Nagicanimani and Mniywakandwin
Nancy St Clairs parents - Magadeheyaye and Canrpeyuhewin
daughter Isabella St Clair husband Stephen Wabashaw Blacksmith and
Santee Marriages has them as being Married 8-17-1884 Santee
I hope this is some help. A question for you, Is this Isabella the one that was married to Oyateduta,James Hopkins and John B Walker? If so I could use some more help there. Please let me know. Thanks
marnie

[hermin1]

I am wondering about this too Marnie.
I alslo have a question:why is his name Stephen Wabashaw Blacksmith/ Does this meas he may have been a stepson that was later adopted?

[DawnDay]

Re: Hasting Settlement B pg.111-17 #4

I'm trying to connect lucy mahpiyawakenze, which I believe is the same person only spelled different but means the same as Lucy Marpiyaidinajitopawin, which means Cloud that stops four times. I believe both Lucy's are one in the same person. My grandmother was Rose Carpenter, her Mother was Lucy Carpenter, and her Mother's Indian name was Cloud that stops four times. If anyone has any info., please help,help,help. Thanks, dawnday

[bakerdlb]

I am looking for Mary Trudell's (Trudell is her married name)(Iciyapewin is her Indian name) mother. We think Mary's mother was Anna Wells (Tatekayakewin). We know that Samuel Wells was Mary's brother and Anna Wells was Samuel's mother. Does anyone know of anything showing who Mary Trudell's parents were? Every census we find that lists Mary Trudell is blank where her parents should be listed. Thank you for any help!

[christy]

hermin1 said:

I am wondering about this too Marnie.
I alslo have a question:why is his name Stephen Wabashaw Blacksmith/ Does this meas he may have been a stepson that was later adopted?

[christy]

Hi my name is Christy and I have recently been in touch with a women who owns the land owned by winyanwaste(good women)and according to her fathers family tree he left her in 1980 lucy Mahpiyawakenze is related too winyanwaste. If anyone else has info to add to this please let me know and well swap info. my e-mail is [e-mail].

[christy]

hermin1 said:

I am wondering about this too Marnie.
I alslo have a question:why is his name Stephen Wabashaw Blacksmith/ Does this meas he may have been a stepson that was later adopted?

[christy]

My name is Christy and I have recently been in contact with a lady who owns Winyanwastes(good woman) land. Her dad left her a family tree when he died back in 1980 that connects winyanwaste and Lucy Mahpiyawakenze. If anyone has any info please let mle know and we can exchange info. My e-mail is [e-mail].

[tamara]

christy said:

My name is Christy and I have recently been in contact with a lady who owns Winyanwastes(good woman) land. Her dad left her a family tree when he died back in 1980 that connects winyanwaste and Lucy Mahpiyawakenze. If anyone has any info please let mle know and we can exchange info. My e-mail is [e-mail].

Mahpiya Wakenze would be the name of a Dakota Scout, right? So Lucy must be a wife or daughter. John Mahpiyawakanzi, if memory serves (lol) his is the name listed on the Memorial / Monument that Jimmy posted pictures of -the Loyalist Monument. He is also the same man who signs on the letter to Sibley asking for scout service. I transcribed it and posted it on another thread. Also Peacekeer (as usual lol) would know some more interesting things on him.

Tamara

[sh225]

tamara said:

christy said:

My name is Christy and I have recently been in contact with a lady who owns Winyanwastes(good woman) land. Her dad left her a family tree when he died back in 1980 that connects winyanwaste and Lucy Mahpiyawakenze. If anyone has any info please let mle know and we can exchange info. My e-mail is [e-mail].

Mahpiya Wakenze would be the name of a Dakota Scout, right? So Lucy must be a wife or daughter. John Mahpiyawakanzi, if memory serves (lol) his is the name listed on the Memorial / Monument that Jimmy posted pictures of -the Loyalist Monument. He is also the same man who signs on the letter to Sibley asking for scout service. I transcribed it and posted it on another thread. Also Peacekeer (as usual lol) would know some more interesting things on him.

Tamara

This is what I was told by a cousin who is also descended from the mysterious Nana Coussi / Nana Kunsi, also called Anne Monjeau, who according to some was the daughter of Wabasha II:

Nana Coussi had a niece, Lucy--I think that may mean that Lucy was the daughter of Chief Wabasha III. Lucy was married to Mah-pe-yah-wahkoon-zay (Spirit Warrior) (that's how my cousin spelled it), who was also called John Hoffman or Indian John. He died 20 Sept 1888 at age 72. Lucy died June 5, 1905 and was survived by a sister, Mrs. Jennie Hoffman and a step-son Joseph McKenzie and a niece, Mrs. Joseph McCoy. I'm told that a newspaper article dated Oct. 1891 (not sure what newspaper, somewhere around Hasting MN) says two brothers of Lucy visited from Redwood Falls. John Westman was named as one. An article dated Jan 1896 says Lucy's brother In-kon-we-chaska visited. He was a scout of Sibley's during the outbreak.

Mahpiya Wakenze or John Hoffman's photo was posted on the Oyate a little while back, sorry I don't remember where exactly. I think that's the same person.

Concerning Lucy's sister Jennie mentioned above, this is what I was told about her:

Jennie was married to Mach-pia-icich-a-ta (Soldier of the Clouds) who also chose the name John Hoffman. He died April 13, 1899. Jennie died August 15, 1912. Her obit says she was 88, born in Winona County and was the daughter of Chief Wabasha III. She was survived by two daughters. Mrs.(Julia) David W. LaFramboise and Mrs. Emma Bouier and a granddaughter, Mrs. James Jones. A newspaper dated Nov 1893 mentions a daughter, Mrs. William Whipple visiting her father John Hoffman.

The above is all that I know and I don't even have any way of verifying any of that since I don't know what newspapers this information came from. If anyone can tell me anything about these people, I'd be delighted to hear about it!

[hermin1]

bakerdlb said:

I am looking for Mary Trudell's (Trudell is her married name)(Iciyapewin is her Indian name) mother. We think Mary's mother was Anna Wells (Tatekayakewin). We know that Samuel Wells was Mary's brother and Anna Wells was Samuel's mother. Does anyone know of anything showing who Mary Trudell's parents were? Every census we find that lists Mary Trudell is blank where her parents should be listed. Thank you for any help!

Please don't misunderstand what I am about to write. I am curious as to what documentation you have that proves that the elusive Annie Wells was the mother of Charles, Mary, and Samuel Wells.
i believe Father Madlon made a tree of the Trudells, which Jimmie has generously posted for those who want to try and wad through it. I gave up in frustration .
If she was Samuel's mother, why was she lliving with David Wells and his family in the 1886 and 89 Mdewakanton Censuses? is David Wells related to Samuel Wells(The Minnesota Samuel).

Remember, there are at least two prsons named Samuel Wells_ the one in Minnesota, and the one in Santee. Samuel Wells's mother was the mother of Richard Allen,nephew of Iron
Elk.( ref. a 1900 or 1910 census for Minnesta, showing richard Allen's mother living in Sam Wells household and she is list ed as his mother.
Recently a death certificate(authenticity is highly questionable) was circulating around here in Sioux City for Annie Webster, d/o Philip Webster, and Tia kisskatawin, claiiming that Annie's mother was Annie Wells. Tiakiskatawin's mother was Ashdohewin.
( ref. heirship Report on John Kangimdoka)

Please if you have documentation to prove what you say you know, please post it or the reference freom hich you got your information soothers who have been searching for information on anie wells can get the documentatipon trhey need.

[hermin1]

hermin1 said:

bakerdlb said:

I am looking for Mary Trudell's (Trudell is her married name)(Iciyapewin is her Indian name) mother. We think Mary's mother was Anna Wells (Tatekayakewin). We know that Samuel Wells was Mary's brother and Anna Wells was Samuel's mother. Does anyone know of anything showing who Mary Trudell's parents were? Every census we find that lists Mary Trudell is blank where her parents should be listed. Thank you for any help!

Please don't misunderstand what I am about to write. I am curious as to what documentation you have that proves that the elusive Annie Wells was the mother of Charles, Mary, and Samuel Wells.
i believe Father Madlon made a tree of the Trudells, which Jimmie has generously posted for those who want to try and wad through it. I gave up in frustration .
If she was Samuel's mother, why was she lliving with David Wells and his family in the 1886 and 89 Mdewakanton Censuses? is David Wells related to Samuel Wells(The Minnesota Samuel).

Remember, there are at least two prsons named Samuel Wells_ the one in Minnesota, and the one in Santee. Samuel Wells's mother was the mother of Richard Allen,nephew of Iron
Elk.( ref. a 1900 or 1910 census for Minnesta, showing richard Allen's mother living in Sam Wells household and she is list ed as his mother.
Recently a death certificate(authenticity is highly questionable) was circulating around here in Sioux City for Annie Webster, d/o Philip Webster, and Tia kisskatawin, claiiming that Annie's mother was Annie Wells. Tiakiskatawin's mother was Ashdohewin.
( ref. heirship Report on John Kangimdoka)

Please if you have documentation to prove what you say you know, please post it or the reference freom hich you got your information soothers who have been searching for information on anie wells can get the documentatipon trhey need.

i madean error: I was requestiong documentation to prove that Annie Wells was the mother of Charles and may Iciyapewin Wamnbdisun, and Samuel Wells.

[sh225]

tamara said:

christy said:

My name is Christy and I have recently been in contact with a lady who owns Winyanwastes(good woman) land. Her dad left her a family tree when he died back in 1980 that connects winyanwaste and Lucy Mahpiyawakenze. If anyone has any info please let mle know and we can exchange info. My e-mail is [e-mail].

Mahpiya Wakenze would be the name of a Dakota Scout, right? So Lucy must be a wife or daughter. John Mahpiyawakanzi, if memory serves (lol) his is the name listed on the Memorial / Monument that Jimmy posted pictures of -the Loyalist Monument. He is also the same man who signs on the letter to Sibley asking for scout service. I transcribed it and posted it on another thread. Also Peacekeer (as usual lol) would know some more interesting things on him.

Tamara

Here is some more information about Mahpiyawakanze or John Hoffman. I got this from my cousin and haven't seen the original newspaper articles. I don't know where she got it from, but if it is any help, here it is. Maybe someone out there can help with untangling whether there were really two men named John Hoffman (one married to Lucy and one married to Jennie, both daughters of Chief Wabasha) or if this is really the same man--maybe he had two wives--or maybe Lucy and Jennie are really the same person--it is more than I can do to work this out, but if someone else has more information, maybe you can tell me.

SUMMARY: The memory of Indian John, whose real name was Muck-a-pea-wah-ken-zah, which Is Indian for "Soldier of the Clouds," was revived recently by a group of Spring Clean-Up Day workers cleaning up St. Luke's Episcopal Church Cemetery along Minnesota Highway 316. The memory is a good one, for Indian John is given much credit for saving Hastings from death during the Sioux Indian uprising of 1862.

He was called John Indian, or Indian John. Some even called him "Dandy" John. He was a U.S. Scout in the early 1860s with the future General Henry H. Sibley. His real name was Muck-a-pea-wah-ken-zah, which translated from the Sioux tongue means "Soldier of the Clouds" or "Spirit Warrior." Now the remains of his body lie in St. Luke's Episcopal Church cemetery along Minnesota Highway 316 facing the Hastings Industrial Park. A large grave stone marks his final resting place and if you're not driving too fast, you can see it from your car. During the city's annual spring clean-up day, a group of workers cleaning up the cemetery noticed his grave and remarked that. They wondered who this "Indian John" person was. He was, as his obituary in the "Hastings Gazette" dated Sept. 29, 1888, stated, "'A great soul." According to local historian Ethel Thieling, John's first meeting with the white men, who would later accept him into their church congregation, happened during the Sioux uprising of 1862.

Thieling said that the Indians had come to where Hastings is located now to tap maple syrup and dig tipsinna turnips for their winter foods. After they arrived and pitched their tents, they discovered that the first white settlers had beaten them to the syrup and left nothing for them to take. So enraged were the Indians that they called a tribal meeting and decided to massacre the people of Hastings. A war dance was held on a hill about where Second and Pine Street meet. Muck-a-pea-wah-ken-zah came to the whites and warned them about what was happening. According to the Sept. 29, 1888, edition of the Hastings Gazette, Muck-a-pea-wah-ken-zah stood against the fellow members of his tribe to protect defenseless women and children. "At the risk of his own life, incurring the bitter hatred of his own tribe, he stood bravely for the defense of unprotected women and children, protecting whom he received injuries whose pains left him only with death," the Gazette said in its fancy way of saying that he was injured while defending white people and the injuries bothered him the rest of his life. The article further stated that "Because of the invaluable assistance rendered the whites his property was destroyed by the members of his own tribe, and he was driven out, barely escaping with his own life."

As one might well imagine, all of this put him at odds with the rest of his tribe. Knowing that the tribe would no longer let him hunt and gather food with them, he made his way to Fort Snelling where he became a scout for then Colonel Henry H. Sibley. He served with Sibley throughout the campaign to put down the uprising. In 1863, while still scouting for Sibley, Muck-a-pea-wah-ken-zah was caught out in a snow storm on open prairie for two days after receiving a severe blow to the stomach with the butt of a gun. Miraculously he survived, although he never fully recovered.

A well-to-do farmer on the Indian reservation prior to all of this, he had lost his high status with the tribe. Seeing this, the people of Hastings felt obligated to provide for him and gave him and his wife food and supplies. After being accepted by the whites, Muck-a-pea-wah-ken-zah joined the Episcopal church and he was given the name of John Hoffman, but everyone called him Indian John. His wife, "Jennie," was the daughter of the great Indian Chief Wabasha, whose tribe owned all the lands west of the
Mississippi, which now make up the counties of Dakota, Goodhue, Wabasha and Winona. In early 1880, the Dakota County Board appropriated $59.71 to pay for lumber to build him a new house. His house was located in the river bottoms in Ravenna Township. During the remainder of the 1880s he could be seen upon the streets of Hastings selling ducks and stone pipes that he made himself. He used to hunt and fish at Spring Lake and every summer he made a wagon trip to Chicago to fish, and to Pipestone to get material to make his pipes. It was during those last years of his life that an application was first sent to Washington, D.C., to grant him a pension.

As he grew older, his earlier injuries incapacitated him from manual labor and left him dependent on the good will of the community. In August of 1888 his name was finally placed on the United States pension roll. "Indian John, as he was known to us all, was a remarkable man," the Gazette said in its obituary. "It was not one act alone or his conduct during the Indian outbreak of 1862 that commanded the esteem of the whites, though his deeds then made him a public benefactor and gave him a place in the history of the state. He was a kindly, industrious man, with a nice sense of honor and duty, who never failed to return any act of kindness extended to himself." He died on Thursday, September 20, 1888, at the age of 78 of lock-jaw caused by a recent injury to his foot, never benefitting from the pension that was granted him.

by David Welch staff writer



Their daughter Julia Hoffman married David La Framboise.

Obituary
Mrs. La Framboise, wife of Dave La Framboise, Indian Medicine Man, died Thursday aftenoon, at Savage, in the tent which she called her home. Born near Hastings in 1860, the daughter of John Hoffman and Jennie Wabasha, Julia Hoffman grew to womanhood there and in 1893 was married to Dave La Framboise, at St. Mary's Catholic Church at Hastings. Here the couple made their home and here three years later a daughter, who died in 1902, was born to them. Following the death of their only child Mr. and Mrs. La. Framboise moved to Shakopee, where they remained until 1916, at which time they moved to Savage, their present home. Mrs. La Framboise, for the last five years, had been bothered with a heart condition, which, despite her husband's artful treatment, proved fatal. Funeral services were conducted from the Wise Undertaking Parlor and interment in the lower city cemetery.

[Curtis Kitto "MIKE"]

Excellent research!