looking for family

[kermit frazier]

hello i am looking for the following people on my family tree it has been a long road of searching and could use some help.

this is on my father side i sm looking for cetan wicakte father who was married to a Mazzkiinwinna. i have her probate but it did not say who her husband was. only that he did a short time ago.

i am looking for information on Margaret frazier husband Ita wakan i have only that he was herhusband and thats all. any more information would help out there.

i am looking for margarets mother english name i have her indian name Hazadowin.

i am also looking for information on chief Wayruga or wayahuga. i have only that he was a chief any information on him would help.

[kermit frazier]

here is what i have on Margaret Frazier. i have her probate it said she was married 2 times first husband was Ite Wakan they had 14 children together and all the kids last names was Frazier and i think a few used ite wankan?
second husband was Tamaza ho waste no children together.

Joseph Jack Frazier Indian name was Ite Maza right?

OK jack Frazier wrote a letter on behalf of his sister Margaret Frazier she did not get in her paper work for the half breed scripts of land when they was passing them out for some reason. Jack said they both had the same mother and father Hazzadowin and James Fraser. i have an Indian name for James Fraser sagdasinduzaha can any body confirm this name?

OK now we come to why would jack Frazier Marie his sister?
we thought that Ita maza and Ite Wakan was the same person as well. it got me started to do research years ago.

i read that Jack has a half sister Lucy and Margaret just trying to get thing straight? who is Ite wankan ? Jacks book iron face said he went to go see his sister because he loved her dearly and when it went to check on her he asked if he brother in law was still alive and he called him a yanktoni?

what happened to Hazzado win and who did she Maire after James and who was Lucy father?

what was hazzadowin father name? any one?/ here is what i have for her trying to confirm this information Hazzadowin father and mother Ha kik ta and Mahpiyaskawin, Mahpiyasakwin father and mother are Ptan unkitawopi wicasta and Zitka ta shawin. can any buddy help me out here?

i do not have a marriage record for Margaret mazakute and Paul. all i have is records stating when they got married. if there is a record out there it would be a good find for my family tree!still looking for information on Margaret Hoffman is her maiden name trying to confirm this for my family tee any information out there?

[kermit frazier]

Sunshine i would be glad to sharewhat i have on Paul Mazakute. my father years ago started to write a book and he was unable to finnish his work he passed away.
Here is what i have on Paul Mazakute so far with me. i do have more just have to go dig it out.
Paul was Baptized by Bishop Whipple in 1860 with 150 other indians. i could not find his batisum record the churchlost that book or could not be found. thats what they told me when i went to the church in Minnesota. oct 1862 Mazakute was acquitted and his adoppted farther was to be hung Tawotawedute there numbers on the list was 213 for mazakute and 214 for tawotawedute.
Paul was a memeber of the Presbyterian 1960 - 1862. Paul was ordained a priest by Rev Samule Hinman and Clarkson santee Neb.
a lot of information on Paul is in the spirit of the missions.
also Idian Affairs Missoion and school of the Episcapal churches.
i will put up more information on him on a later date. i know he as sibalings just need to find his information. kf

[hermin1]

kermit:what are your sources for the names of Hazzadowin' parents and Mahpiyaskawin's parents?
paul mazakute's adopted father was his uncle, Tawotaheduta. Tawotaheduta was imprisoned ,then pardoned and returned to Santee in 1866. he died at Santee befre 1890.

[hermin1]

peacekeeper may be able to help you with finding a marriage record for pau mazakute and maggie hoffman.

[hermin1]

Margaret Frazier was also married to Wapaya. they wed at Ft. Snelling before 1862,by Ind. Custom and separated by Ind. custom.
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Correction.
Sarah Sophia Frazier,wife of Cetanwicakte was married three times,not Margaret Frazier.Wapaya and Sophia wed at Ft. Snelling. he was one of her three spouses.
today is not my day.i am sosorry for the goof.

[hermin1]

yes Ite maza and Ite Wakan are one and the same person.

[kermit Frazier]

peacekeeper are u able to help with the location of Paul mazakute and Margaret Panna marrige record?

[KERMIT FRAZIER]

Years back when every one was looking for family member for the wolfchild lawsute. i went to redwing minn and at there church or libarry on the to of the hill over looking redwing. i was in there looking for records for family connections. the lady there said all she had on the frazier was a family tree done by Curtis cambell.it has Hazzadowin on his family tre chart.

years ago when my mother was doing research on the family she had coleccletted papers. i asked her where she got the Frazier family tree chart for the frazier and she cant remeber she said it was a long time and she cant remeber. the family tree chart has Hazadohan for the mother of John and Margaret. Part of the paper is cut off.

the next paper is the half breed script of land that needed affidavits of two people and that one had Azodowin on that one for the mother of Jack and Margreat Frazier.

thats all the papers that i have with showing the mother of Margaret and Jack.

there are three diffrnt spelling of her name that i could see.

[Kermit frazier]

what records do you have that shows Ite Maza and Ite wankan are one of the same person?

[Kermit frazier]

i have Mazakiinwinna probate file and it shows a Jane Frazier from Eggleston Minn. is this the Jane that Married John Frazier?

if so. is thier a probate out there for Jane Hdonicawin frazier? she is the sister of cetanwicakte.

[kermit frazier]

the family tree chart that my mother has looks like it came from some probate. just wish i knew who's it was from.

on the bottom of it it has daughter of mary c rose # 1997 1/2
1917 Roll 3 1997 - # 374

doe's this mean anything to sny boddy?

[hermin1]

first, Hazzadowin's name has been spelled also as Azodowin(james Hansen referred to her by this name in his article about the origins of the Rocque family), and Hazadowin by other authors and Historians.
Re. Mazakininwinna's probate from the Center NE. County courthouse has numerous inconsitencies, and as a result I considered it a "Funny " probate:
Cetanwicakte died in the battle of Wood lakein 1862(1862 Uprising).
Hupahuduta was not chief Redwing(III).
Susan Wadutawastewin was the daughter of Warpaha and Makahdedutawin(1902 Reg. Santee Ind. Families).She was not the daughter of Wapahaduta, neither wa Charles Ross.
Charles Ross was the son of Wapaha and Tatewkanhdiwin(Paul Brill Family history chart for Mazawasicun).
Mazakininwinna's spouse was Iwankamnajin(dec'd)(Ref. 1902 Reg. Santee Indian Families).

Tasinatowin was married 2x: sp.1 wasTatankawanjina. they had a son ,George Josephj Eagle b. at Sisseton in1878. Her second spouse was Samuel Wakinyangi(ref. 1885, 1886 Santee Ind. Censuses). No children from second marriage.
There aren't any records with which to confirm who were the parents of Cetanwicakte.norr to confirm the others listed as children of mazaki8ninwinna and her spouse.
the Jane Frazier who testiied at the probate hearing or Mazakininwinna,could very well have been the wife of John Frazier. The 1902 Register of Santee Indian Families lists a Jennie Frazier(no Indian Name) age 68 Widow. parents: Iwakanmnajin and Mazakininwinna.
the mdewakanton Rolls for 1885-1889 list her asthewife of John Fazier,but do not also list her by her Indian Name.
All you can do is contact NARA and see if they have a record on hdonicawin to confirm that she was Jennie Frazier.
if you want to ask peacekeeper for help you need to write her at [e-mail]

[kermit frazier]

Herman yes i am getting the Roc family information to search there records. thanks for the tip on that.

re: to Mazakiinnawin probate from center. i do have that on and you said it showed some inconsistencies. could you share your ideas about what you think and why it is funny?
i looked at it as well and thought the same thing so i order her probate out of Aberdeen head office and the same probate came back. do you think there is other information out there on Mazakiinnawin? from looking at her probate it showed that Jennie told of the brothers and what happened to them that they died long ago? i am looking for her because it is showing as the only heir to he mother Mazakiinawin.

i want to also look for Alfred Good Thunder because in one of your post. it said Alfred Good Thunder's father was Centanwickte. so i want to check that out as well. just trying to put the pieces together.

i know that my great grandfather Lot Frazier always told Simon, His son that his Father had died at the Wood Lake battle and that Can na or Sarah Sophia Frazier was caring Lot when they rounded everyone up at Fort Snelling and that Lot was born there1863. My Father told me and he was told by his father Simon.
thanks Hernman for the help.

[Kermit Frazier]

Herman i looked at the Santee allottees list and fond Alfred Good thunder his number is # 250. do you think this might be the same Alfred Good Thunder that i am looking for?

[hermin1]

Alfred Goodthunder apparently claimed that that he was the son of Chief Goodthunder/Andrew Goodthunder, when he was baptized. That i s
what I have been told by others.
alfred died 23 Nov. 1926, in Minnesota. Age 80 yrs.
he had made out a will and it was attached to his hereship report.
spouse: Bertha goodthunder. Wed 1920 by ceremony. she was living at the time the estate was probated.they were not divorced.
Children:Andrew Goodthunder male age 8 yrs. living.
Ernest Goodthunder- age 4 yr. living
Thelma Goodthunder,age 8-Adopted.
Alfred's other spouses were
Julia Waduta
Julia Hinajinawin
Rebecca Campbell
Mary Chapman- they were wed in 1888 at Santee.
siblings:
Julia Wasteyadan-wife of Philip Webster , and several other men.
mary Goodthunder-wife of Moses Cloud.

[hermin1]

Nov 30, 2012 16:54:25 GMT -5 @kermit frazier said:

the family tree chart that my mother has looks like it came from some probate. just wish i knew who's it was from.

on the bottom of it it has daughter of mary c rose # 1997 1/2
1917 Roll 3 1997 - # 374

doe's this mean anything to sny boddy?

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No it doesn't.
i don't have anyone in my records with that name. I am guessing that isjust part of the woman's name.
Post the ret of what is on that tree.

[hermin1]

Dec 2, 2012 20:10:02 GMT -5 @kermit frazier said:

Herman yes i am getting the Roc family information to search there records. thanks for the tip on that.

re: to Mazakiinnawin probate from center. i do have that on and you said it showed some inconsistencies. could you share your ideas about what you think and why it is funny?
i looked at it as well and thought the same thing so i order her probate out of Aberdeen head office and the same probate came back. do you think there is other information out there on Mazakiinnawin? from looking at her probate it showed that Jennie told of the brothers and what happened to them that they died long ago? i am looking for her because it is showing as the only heir to he mother Mazakiinawin.

i want to also look for Alfred Good Thunder because in one of your post. it said Alfred Good Thunder's father was Centanwickte. so i want to check that out as well. just trying to put the pieces together.

i know that my great grandfather Lot Frazier always told Simon, His son that his Father had died at the Wood Lake battle and that Can na or Sarah Sophia Frazier was caring Lot when they rounded everyone up at Fort Snelling and that Lot was born there1863. My Father told me and he was told by his father Simon.
thanks Hernman for the help.

Re. Mazakininwinna's probate from the Center NE. County courthouse has numerous inconsitencies, and as a result I considered it a "Funny " probate:
Cetanwicakte died in the battle of Wood lakein 1862(1862 Uprising).
Hupahuduta was not chief Redwing(III).
Susan Wadutawastewin was the daughter of Warpaha and Makahdedutawin(1902 Reg. Santee Ind. Families).She was not the daughter of Wapahaduta, neither wa Charles Ross.
Charles Ross was the son of Wapaha and Tatewkanhdiwin(Paul Brill Family history chart for Mazawasicun).
Mazakininwinna's spouse was Iwankamnajin(dec'd)(Ref. 1902 Reg. Santee Indian Families).

Tasinatowin was married 2x: sp.1 wasTatankawanjina. they had a son ,George Josephj Eagle b. at Sisseton in1878. Her second spouse was Samuel Wakinyangi(ref. 1885, 1886 Santee Ind. Censuses). No children from second marriage.
There aren't any records with which to confirm who were the parents of Cetanwicakte.norr to confirm the others listed as children of mazaki8ninwinna and her spouse.
the Jane Frazier who testiied at the probate hearing or Mazakininwinna,could very well have been the wife of John Frazier. The 1902 Register of Santee Indian Families lists a Jennie Frazier(no Indian Name) age 68 Widow. parents: Iwakanmnajin and Mazakininwinna.
the mdewakanton Rolls for 1885-1889 list her asthewife of John Fazier,but do not also list her by her Indian Name.
All you can do is contact NARA and see if they have a record on hdonicawin to confirm that she was Jennie Frazier.
if you want to ask peacekeeper for help you need to write her at [e-mail]

[hermin1]

You will have to tell me when and in what section I may have written that Alfred goodthunder was brother of Cetanwicakte. if I had posted that ,I would have already had it written in my records on Alfred, and I don't.

[kermit frazier]

Hermin Alfred did not say Alfred Good Thunder was a brother to centanwickte, that on your sit he said that Centanwickte was his father.

i will go back and look at where i have found that site. sorry