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Post by redgreenchile on Sept 8, 2011 13:32:39 GMT -5
Looking for relatives, and more genealogy info on my grandmother. Adopted by Mackey. She was Demars (or alternative spellings I guess). Sarah. Ed. They're all in our tree. And on Santee rolls.
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Post by hermin1 on Sept 8, 2011 23:09:51 GMT -5
I don't have a Matilda Demars,Demarce or dumarceor Mackey in my records.whichof the Santee Rols are you referring to ? Could she have also gone by Martha?
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Post by mcintosh on Sept 14, 2011 21:47:56 GMT -5
I found a Matilda I Mackey on Ancestry.com
Name: Matilda I Mackey Date of Birth: abt 1909 Age: 1 Gender: Female Relation to Head of Household: Daughter Father's Name: Edward Mackey Tribe: Santee Sioux (Sioux) Agency: Santee State: Nebra Last Census Number: 678 Census Date: 30 Jun 1910
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Post by hermin1 on Sept 14, 2011 22:55:03 GMT -5
sounds like you are on the right track. follow it through at ancestry.
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Post by mcintosh on Sept 15, 2011 21:45:45 GMT -5
On Ancestry Matilda Mackey appears in the 1910, 1920 and 1930 U.S. Census. Parents are shown as Edward Mackey (born in Minnesota) and Matilda Mackey (born in Germany). In the 1930 Census she and her husband (John Dufour) are living with her parents in Mendota. She and John have 2 children, Shirley (age 1.5) and Robert (6 mos). Matilda Mackey appears on the Indian Census Rolls from 1910 until 1937 with the exception of 1916, 1932, 1933 and 1936. Always appears as Santee but for two years is registered at Yankton rather than Nebraska.
There is a family tree posted on Ancestry. It shows Matilda lived from 1910-2001 and lists her father as Edward Demars Mackey born 1871. Edward's father is listed as Henry Demars (no further information) and his mother is listed as Sarah Redwing (1854-1933)
Hope that helps.
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Post by hermin1 on Sept 16, 2011 13:26:47 GMT -5
mcintosh: Edward was the son of Henry Demarce/Dumarce and Sarah Robinson(dau. of Thomas Robinson and Mary Jane Wakute aka Wagiwin). apparently he andoneof his siblings also took the surname Mackey when their mother married Mr. Mackey. the father, Henrylater married a Devils Lake Sioux woman also and had at least a child with her.
Update: this was henry Demers/Demars not dumarce. Please see below.
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Post by mcintosh on Sept 16, 2011 19:00:35 GMT -5
I'm confused - So this must be a different Demarce/Dumarce family than the Francois Demarce/Tatewinorca family. To be the father of Edward, Henry would probably have to be Francois' son and I don't remember any Henrys in the family - unless Francois had a son named Henry prior to having a family with Tatewinorca. Does anyone know Henry Dumarce's parentage?
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Post by hermin1 on Sept 18, 2011 9:30:50 GMT -5
No,no, this is the same Dumarce family. Henry was one of John Baptiste Dumarce's sons by Julia LeBlanc-Max,one of his three wives.(update: But he may not have been the one who wed Sarah Robinson) Ref. Notes from Heirship Report on John Baptiste DuMarce.
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Post by mcintosh on Sept 18, 2011 19:20:52 GMT -5
Thank you. I was mixing up generations.
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Post by hermin1 on Sept 19, 2011 8:49:11 GMT -5
No problemmo. mcintosh. You are most welcome. I hope the information helped.
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Post by earthw7 on Sept 19, 2011 13:39:42 GMT -5
Mildila Mackey was not adopted, her father Edward Demers Mackey tooks his step father's name. After the split up of his mother and father.
Mary Jane Wakute Spouse: Robinson Children Daughter: Sarah Jane Redwing Robinson b. 1854
Henry Demer Spouse: Sarah Jane Redwing Robinson b. 1854 Son: Edward Demers b. 1871
Thomas Mackey Spouse: Sarah Jane Redwing Robinson b. 1854 Children Son: Edward Demers Mackey b. 1871 Daughter: Martha Mackey b. 1878 Son: Willie Mackey b. 1880 Son: Frank Mackey b. 1882 Daughter: Mary Mackey b. 1884 Son: John B Macley b. 1884 Son: John W. Macley b. 1887 Daughter: Carrie Mackey b. 1890 Son: Thomas Mackey b. 1892 Son: Clarence Mackey b. 1896
Thomas and Sarah Mackey are buried side-by-side in the Le'Qui Court Cemetery in Niobrara. On her headstone, her name is misspelled as Saraha. This is also the way it was spelled on hear death certificate, but not on her probate. Sarah married to her first husband, Henry Demers, a Frenchman, in Wabasha. Then I believe when she left him,she went to see her dad in Lincoln County, MN, where she met a farmer named Thomas Mackey, a white man, who lived near Flandreau and married him.
Edward Demers Mackey b. 1871 Spouse: Matilda b. 1884 d. 1972 (Germany) Children Daughter: Hattie Mackey b. 1905 Son: Edward R. Mackey b. 1908 Daughter: Maltilda Mackey b. 1910 d. 2001
Matilda Mackey Spouse: John W. Dufour
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Post by hermin1 on Sept 24, 2011 15:33:11 GMT -5
earth7w: theCorrection: I meant to write your) information is correct. Henry Dumarce was a mixed blood, as was his father, so he may not have been the one who married Sarah robinson in 1870,Wabasha,MN.although he did have liaisons with several women, marrying only one of them legally. and coincidently, He and his last spouse(common law marriage) had a daughter Mathilda. which prompts the question, are you sure you have the right Matilda Demers/Dumarce/Demarce? I am so sorry for the goof. I found a Henry Demers, s/o Jean Baptiste Demers/Demars and Philomene Barre, born @ 1877. This Henry Demers/Demars was still living in Minnesota,Hennepin county in the 1920 US Census.His father, several siblings and grandparents are listed in the 1850 Minn. terr. Census.
correction: You forgot Edward's brother paul or Napoleon Demers.(re. Mr. Brill's Redwing Family Tree).
it would be helpful if you could get a copy of sarah and Henry's marriage license. it may help clear up confusion.
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Post by earthw7 on Sept 27, 2011 9:13:30 GMT -5
earth7w: the information is correct. Henry Dumarce was a mixed blood, as was his father, so he may not have been the one who married Sarah robinson in 1870,Wabasha,MN.although he did have liaisons with several women, marrying only one of them legally. and coincidently, He and his last spouse(common law marriage) had a daughter Mathilda. which prompts the question, are you sure you have the right Matilda Demers/Dumarce/Demarce? I am so sorry for the goof. I found a Henry Demers, s/o Jean Baptiste Demers/Demars and Philomene Barre, born @ 1877. This Henry Demers/Demars was still living in Minnesota,Hennepin county in the 1920 US Census.His father, several siblings and grandparents are listed in the 1850 Minn. terr. Census. correction: You forgot Edward's brother paul or Napoleon Demers.(re. Mr. Brill's Redwing Family Tree). it would be helpful if you could get a copy of sarah and Henry's marriage license. it may help clear up confusion. Matilda was never a Demers, she was born a Mackey because her Father went by his step Father's name. Now are Napoleon and Paul from Sarah?
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Post by hermin1 on Sept 27, 2011 10:55:30 GMT -5
Napoleon was Paul's other name. You mentioned Sarah's probate. It should tell you who were her children, including paul or Napoleon, and by which father.I do not have her probate. My contact with the Demars Family, says there is Sarah's marriage to A.Henry Demers(demars) in Wabasha Cty. MN in August,1870. There is also a record of Sarah Demars having a son, Henry in Wabasha,MN on 2/4/1876. There is also a record of A. Henry Demars and Selestia Robinson having a child on 3/24/1872 ,Wabasha Cty,MN.
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Post by hermin1 on Sept 27, 2011 10:56:51 GMT -5
the Redwing Chart by mr. Brill notes that Mary Jane Wakute and Tom robinson had at least 3 daughters: Mary Louise, Sarah, and Selestia(Celestia). Celestia shows up in Santee having a son with Thomas Mackey. the son died quite young. She and thomas also were wed at Santee before 1884.(Ref. Santee Agency Register, Book 1).
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Post by redgreenchile on Sept 27, 2011 12:48:45 GMT -5
I haven't checked back with this site since I posted the original question, and wow, all that info, thank you all very much for your help. I will try to get a copy of the probate for my grandma Matilda.
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Post by hermin1 on Sept 27, 2011 20:16:02 GMT -5
redgreen chili: would appreciate it if you would send me a copy of Sarah Mackey's Probate papers. my Email is dakounas@yahoo.com I would really appreciate it.
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Post by redgreenchile on Jan 29, 2014 20:21:22 GMT -5
I haven't read these posts since 2011 and only now see the post by hermin1. I don't know if hermin1 is still around, but I should say I do not have a copy of Sarah Mackey's probate papers, nor have I tried to get them. I intend to though. Again, I am sorry for my absence and non-reply to the above post.
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 30, 2014 13:30:13 GMT -5
you don't have anything to apologize for. We're glad to have you back. I am still here. redgreenchile.
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 31, 2014 6:33:17 GMT -5
redgreenchile; contact maryfrances.ronan@nara.gov and request a copy of Sarah's probate. give her Sarah's full name ,Tribal affiliation,and date of death. she will contact you if and when she finds the records you need,plus the cost.
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