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Post by jennjenn72 on Jun 23, 2010 0:02:33 GMT -5
I am looking for information about Joseph or John LaDue(1840s???). He was married to Amelia Douville(1850-?)...daughter of Freemont Douville(1815-1875) and Julia Peno(1818-1853).
I know that Amelia was born in NE. I believe she was half breed. Not sure if that is true but I would love to find out.
I have next to no info about Joseph/John LaDue. I know he married Amelia in NE. They had a daughter Josephine about 1870. She was my g-g-grandmother.
Somewhere in these lines there may have been a fur trader...not sure if that is true or just family stories.
I would appreciate info on any/all of the names here. Thank you so much. If you need more info you can email me at jennhill72@yahoo.com
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Post by hermin1 on Jun 24, 2010 12:22:01 GMT -5
jennhill72: Firmin Douville,father of Joseph Firmin Douville, was b.18 Jan. 1799 La parade,champlain,Quebec,Can spouse: Agathe tessier.wed 24 Feb.1822 St. Anne,dela parade,champlain,Quebec,Can. Her parents: Joachim Tessier aand marie Victoria Marguerite Valle. children: children: Joseph -Firmin douville b.@1842-1849.he came to Rulo , NE from Canada. The1860 US Census,Rulo,Richardson,NE: also lists his wife Julia age 42 born NE, and children: Meedor Douville age 14, Louis age 8,Amelia douville age 10,Felicita age 7 and Clara age 4. Meddore Douville was born@1849 NE was married to Louise marshall. 1891 Rosebud Agency ,Todd,SD Ind. Census-Half Bloods lists: meddor age 42, wife Louise, children: George age 17,Jessie age 15, antonie victoria age 8, Armenia age 6,Caroline age 5,Josephine age 5(illegible)?, the 1894 census also includes emma (born 1894)Daughter caroline wed John Kills In the water . 1937 rosebud agency Census lists: John at age 71 , Caroline age 50, and children: Nicholas age 21,Elizabeth, age 20,John Jesse age 15,Lawrence age 11, seymore age 9, and Baby Age 6. ___________ dont know if she is related tothe above douvilles, but I found an ester douville nee? born 1849 Can. parents: N/A spouse: theodore douville age 50, born France, children: Granville age 11 b. Canada,Nancy age 6 b. Minn, and Josephine age 1 born Minn. ref. 1895 Minn. state Census ,Crow Wing,Minn _______________ Henry Douville age 50 yrs. French Canadian, b. @1860 French Can., parents born Canada. spouse; Ernestine nee ? age 42 born MIch., Father born Can, Mother born Mich. children:mary H. age 19 born ND and William H. age 11 born ND. Ref. 1910 US Census ,Ward 3, Chamberlain,SD. Hope this helps you. _____________ jenn hill72 Joseph-Firmin Douville's father was alexis Douville, not firmin. I apologize for the goof.
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Post by hermin1 on Jun 24, 2010 13:58:32 GMT -5
jennhil72: Re. the Ladue/Ladoue/Ledeaux surname, I found Amelia and Josph Ladoue in Dakota Terr.,clay county,1870. I lost them after that. You need to track back from your parents to find Josephine's spouse.
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Post by jennjenn72 on Jun 24, 2010 20:32:09 GMT -5
Thank you so much, hermin1! That is the Amelia...the one I mentioned was born in Richardson, NE. That gives me more info on her and her family. The Joseph-Firmin...could he have gone by the name Finnie? I have seen him listed in a census as Finnie and as Fremont and as Freeman. Wondering if since his father was Joseph he went by his second or middle name. That would make sense.
Josephine married James Henry Emery....one of their daughters was named Josephine also...born 1901. Josephine M married Thomas Hale. Their daughter Mrytle May Hale is my grandmother. I can follow them forward and their decendents to now...its going backwards that I get stumped. I would love to find out more about Joseph LaDue (or various spellings)...I am curious where he came from. One lead that I could not verify was that he may have been born in Missouri. His father may have come from Canada. I am really lost on this one.
I appreciate your help. Thanks, Jenn _________ jenn: I have seen his name spelled Freeman Douville, but not as finnie unless that was his nickname. I can understand you beeing lost. I tried the Missouri GenWeb, and someother haunts I frequent in Missouri and got nothing on the surname Ladue.
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Post by jennjenn72 on Jun 24, 2010 20:55:22 GMT -5
hermin1,
After looking up Joseph Firmin and Agathe Tessier, I just don't think it fits. The dates are just off a little. Amelia was born about 1850 so her Joseph Firmin couldn't be her father. He can't be the same as the Finnie/Fremont I have found. I wish it added up. I am going to keep plugging away at it. If you are seeing something I am missing please let me know. Thanks again. =)
Jenn
____________ You need to give a leeway of + or - a couple years. when ancestry says About, they are guessing, based on the age givento the Census taker at the time a census was done.
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Post by hermin1 on Jun 24, 2010 21:03:53 GMT -5
You are most welcome. Try www.familysearch.org this is the LDS Archives Website. You need to register first to give yourself a Username and Password. thisis all free. then type in the name of who youare looking for and press enter. see waht you comeup with. Then go to Missouri genWeb(type 'Missouri GenWeb" in to google). see what you come up with there. find and click on Jimmy's name anywhere on this web site. He has a famiy tree on the emerys I think. he may be able to help you.
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Post by hermin1 on Jun 24, 2010 21:47:31 GMT -5
jennhill72: I found listing for Joseph Ladue obit. Beresford Republic (Newspaper)Obituary Index: Vol. 8:1901.He died in Union county laDue, Joseph died 1 July, 1901 obit: 4 July ,!901. contact the South Dakota Historical Society Archives in Pierre,SD, as they may have old issues of the newspaper (Microfilm). they can do a search foryou. it will cost you, but maybe there willbe clues to his family inthe Obit.
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Post by jennjenn72 on Jun 25, 2010 14:44:54 GMT -5
Thank you very much hermin1. I was reading and re reading the info you gave about the Douville family. I think it does actually fit. I have a few questions though...
When you put...Joseph -Firmin douville b.@1842-1849.he came to Rulo , NE from Canada...did you mean he was born between 1842-1849 or is that when he came to NE??? If it is when he came to NE then it makes sense. Also, his father maybe went by another name??? I have found his father listed as "Alexis Douville" several times. Also, I found a marriage for him in 1865 to Elise Grandbois. If Julia died about 1853 then it could be correct and Elise would be his second marriage. _____ jennhill72: Alexis was Joseph-firmin Douville's father, born in Canada. Joseph Douville did come to Rulo,NE. The birth date for Joseph are world tree estimates, which are usually off by @ 10 years. Joseph and his siblings were born in canada. I never go by these world Fam. Tree Estimates. Are you sure it wasn't Alexis Douville who married the Grandbois woman?
Also, something interesting is that at one point Marie Victoria Marguerite Valle and her cousin married into the same family and they had children who married. I must admit that following it was a little overwhelming and confusing..lol
Thanks again for all your help. =) Jenn
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Post by hermin1 on Jun 27, 2010 9:40:29 GMT -5
don't be surprised. i have seen first cousin marrying each other, and fifth cousins marrying andnot knowing that they were cousins, at all. haha
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Post by hermin1 on Jun 27, 2010 10:05:49 GMT -5
jennhill72 do you have the record of Joseph-firmin's marriage to Julia?
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Post by hermin1 on Jun 27, 2010 10:09:34 GMT -5
jennhill72: the 1860 US Census i found listed Joseph firmin with Julia as his wife. so she couldn't have died in 1853.
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Post by jennjenn72 on Jun 27, 2010 13:41:05 GMT -5
hermin1..
I also found a record of Julia still being alive in 1860...wondering if she died in 1863 not 3...hmmm. I will work on that. Also, even if Joseph Firmin's bday is off by ten years that would be between 1832-1839...and if Amelia was born 1850 and had older siblings that would make Joseph Firmin a VERY young father. I know they had kids younger back then but that is even a stretch here. I don't have a marriage record for JF and Julia...just had gotten that info from another family tree on Ancestry. As far as the Grandbois marriage...I found them in several lines. But on Rootsweb it listed Joseph Firmin as married to Elise Grandbois in 1865 and they had or 6 children. I know that stuff isn't always correct but it is all I have to go on so far. That and what you gave me. Thank you so much for all of your help. I hope to get back on here later today to work on it. =) Jenn
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