Children of Two Lance (Sr. - born in 1700's)

[akhummingbird]

I'm researching Wambdi Autepewin (aka Matilda Galpin/ Eagle Woman Who All Look At). Her father was Two Lance, a Teton chief of the Two Kettle band. Two Lance was born in the mid 1700s and died in the year of the great meteor shower (1833).

According to John S. Gray's biography article "the Story of Mrs. Picotte-Galpin, a Sioux Heroine" Montana the Magazine of Western History Spring 1986 - which quoted an interview of Mrs. Galpin with Frances C. Holley ("Once Their Home") - Mrs. Galpin was the "YOUNGEST OF EIGHT CHILDREN".

I'm trying to figure out who the seven brother and sisters of Matilda Galpin/Eagle Woman were.

All I have so far is that Two Lance had a Hunkpapa wife named Rosy Light of Dawn (daughter of Iron Horn) who was the mother of Eagle Woman.

I believe Two Lance also had a wife named Winyan Maza (Iron Woman???).

If there were eight children (some who had to be female because the interview says "she learned from her older sisters...") then Two Lance's children were (not necessarily in this order):
1. White Hawk
2. Two Lance (aka Drag the Stone)
3. Two Hawk???
4. ?
5. ?
6. ?
7. ?
8. Wambdi Autepewin (Eagle Woman Who All Look At)

There is also a reference to "Four Bears being Eagle Woman's nephew" - so how was Four Bear related to Two Lance?

Appreciate any info to help fill out the family-tree.
~Barbara (GG-granddaughter of Wambdi Autepewin)

[hermin1]

-I copied from Fr. Madlon's Tree on the Picotte's. here is what i have:
Two Lance had 2 wives.( correction: this is TwoLanceII)
two lance II
married a Rosebud Woman and had a child: Eagle woman who married Jose paul Gordon
With Tasinamaniwin he had the following children:
Cecelia w/p John Promise
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Please excuse my goof.
Two Lance(Sr.) had Two hawks and Two LanceII, and Matilda GEag;e Woman(Whom all Look At).this is according to Fr. madlon's Tree.
Matilda was married to Jean Baptiste picotte, and then she was married to his clerk,Galpin.

[hermin1]

-I copied from Fr. Madlon's Tree on the Picotte's. here is what i have:
Two Lance had 2 wives.
with Iron Woman. i have Two Hawks and Two lanceII
two lance II
maried a Rosebud Woman and had a child: Eagle woman who married Jose paul Gordon
With Tasinamaniwin Two Lanmnce (Sr)he had the following children:
Cecelia w/p John Promise
Sophia dutawin
Amy w/o thomas Cloud
Abraham Two spear h/o Grace Hotewin.they had a daughter Lulu who was married 2x[ first to Albert Yardley and they had Aaron and Jacob, second to thomas ironbird and they had
thomas Ironbird
Whirlwind-dec'd
Horace h/o Carrie Wolf.they had Two lance III
Hope this helps.

[scararm]

Hello on amelia walking blankets probate it shows her brother was feather earring the grandfather of Mary Goullet I think some one was looking for these two people. She married James Garvie.
Hope this helps some. Also the women who married Joseph Paul Gordon was my Gg Julia Boucher sister Roslie Boucher daughter of Francis C Boucher . We have been looking for information on thier mother she went by Mary Stabber.

Scararm

[elevine]

Akhummingbird
Lavanah Judah has done A LOT of genealogical work on this. Search for her posts on this site and/or contact her. A wonderful woman, she is very generous with her research and has tons posted on Ancestry.com. You may have information to share.

[akhummingbird]

Thank you Elevine - yes I have been in contact with Lavanah. In fact we met and had dinner together last December when I was in California visiting family. Lavanah shared the Father Madlon's Tree with me.

I'm thinking the four question marks must be sisters - since the "Once Their Homes" articles does say Eagle Woman/Galpin did have sisterS. These women would have been born before 1820 and harder to track down. I think one of the sisters must have married Four Bears (Sr. ) and that the nephew Four Bears referenced in the book is their son, Joseph Four Bears.

thanks,
Barbara

[earthw7]

I was wondering which Two Lance was shot and survived at Wounded Knee

[hermin1]

earth7w: checkout the postingsre.the Woundedkneeemassacre on our website.

[Spirit of the Owl Woman]

RE: FOUR BEARS - TWO KETTLE BAND
FROM ANCESTRY GENEALOGY THE FOLLOWING:

Oohenonpa ('two boilings' ). A division of the Teton Sioux, commonly known as Two Kettle Sioux, or Two Kettles; also a subdivision thereof. No mention of it is made by Lewis and Clark, Long, or other earlier explorers. It is stated in a note to De Smet's Letters (1843) that the band was estimated at 800 persons. Culbertson (1850) estimated them at 60 lodges, but gives no locality and says they have no divisions. Gen. Warren (1856) found them much scattered among other bands and numbering about 100 lodges. Gumming (Rep. Ind. Aff. for 1856) places them on the south side of the Missouri. Hayden (1862) says they passed up and down Cheyenne river as far as Cherry creek and Moreau and Grand rivers, not uniting with other bands.

Their principal chief then was Matotopa, or Four Bears, a man of moderate capacity but exercising a good influence on his people. They lived entirely on the plains, seldom going to war, and were good hunters and shrewd in their dealings with the traders. They treated with respect white men who came among them as traders or visitors.

They were on the warpath in 1866 at the time of the Ft Phil. Kearney massacre, yet it is not certain that they took an active part in this attack. By treaty made at Ft Sully, Dak., on Oct. 19, 1865, they agreed to cease attacking whites or Indians except in self defense and to settle permanently on designated lands. This treaty was signed on their behalf by chiefs Chatanskah (White Hawk), Shonkahwakkonkedeshkah (Spotted Horse), Mahtotopah (Four Bears), and others, and was faithfully observed by them unless they were in the Sitting Bull uprising of 1876, which is doubtful.

Neither contagion nor war materially reduced the number of the Oohenonpa, which seems to have remained comparatively stationary up to 1887, when it was reported as 642, the last separate official enumeration. They reside on Cheyenne River reservation, South Dakota, with Sihasapa, Miniconjou, and Sans Arcs.

[Spirit of the Owl Woman]

Jan 29, 2009 21:41:45 GMT -5 scararm said:

Hello on amelia walking blankets probate it shows her brother was feather earring the grandfather of Mary Goullet I think some one was looking for these two people. She married James Garvie.
Hope this helps some. Also the women who married Joseph Paul Gordon was my Gg Julia Boucher sister Roslie Boucher daughter of Francis C Boucher . We have been looking for information on thier mother she went by Mary Stabber.

Scararm

I just came across this today and thought perhaps I should respond about what I know about the Gordons.

First, Fr. Madlon's tree states that Two Lance, II (dob 1855) married a Rosebud woman name unknown. From this union supposedly (and here is one incidence where the good Fr. and his facts may have been wrong) was born a girl with the name of Eagle Woman who then married a white man by the name of Joe (Joseph) Paul Gordon.

I did some research on this some time ago and I did find a woman on the Rosebud rez named Lottie Gordon, single and born abt 1832 (she was born 22 yrs before Two Lance, II. Now I know how many Lakota and Dakota men enjoyed women old than themselves (a breed of man far ahead of the rest) but I don't think this is the case. Two Lance Sr. (abt 1820) is the more likely candidate, plus I have so far found him to be with at least 4 wives.

My first document on Lottie Gordon is ICS, Rosebud, 1891. She is listed here with 4 children and I am sure there must be more just have not found documents to support this yet. But, the children's names and dob are:

Julia abt 1871, Lucy abt 1873, Louis abt 1875, and Joseph abt 1880. This Joseph is probably the Joseph Scararm was referring to because this Joseph is listed on the Rosebud census next to his mother but with his family as:

Rosa Boucher, wife abt 1876
Charlotte, daughter abt 1904
Julia C, daughter abt 1908
Della Louise, dau, abt 1910
Mary Genevive, dau, abt 1912

So it is my belief, and that is all it is, a belief, that Two Lance Sr was Lottie "EagleWoman's" father not Two Lance Jr. As far as who her mother was, at this point in my research I do not know. If anyone else does please do share.

One last thing, Fr. Madlon's trees are not factual perfection. But, think about it, given what the man had to work with, his trees are great! He had no internet or computer to talk to relatives all over the U.S. or look up facts, stories or census records. I thank the Great Spirit for what he left behind for all of us to use. So far I have found his tree's to be 90 to 95% correct and that is saying a lot to his credit and what he had to work with.

The above is an example of one familial relationship error that I have most recently found. And as I have said, I have not found many errors, considering from his tree's I have 2k people on my tree and none of these relatives were born past the 1920's or 30's and most of them were born before 1900.

I hope this may help someone out there. Feedback is always welcome as learning and sharing is the name of the game.

Lavanah

[whipple]

Where can I find father Daniel Madlon's trees? My mother talked about him. She said that when she was little he would come to visit her every afternoon and they would talk family history. She said that in her family nobody would talk to him but her. She also said she saw the book - a big white book, full of family trees.

[Spirit of the Owl Woman]

Whipple if you email me, I will send them to you.

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