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Post by rayhenry on Mar 7, 2008 12:12:50 GMT -5
great grand father: Yellow Cloud- Tribe and roll#936:4/4 Rosebud Sioux dob1849: dod 11/22/18
great grand mother: White "Ska": Tribe& roll #RS936 1/2: 4/4
Rosebud Sioux dob 1874: dod12/07/1945
great grand father: Theodore Arconge: Yankton Sioux dob 1877:
great grand mother: Anne Bordeaux: Yankton Sioux dob 1877:
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 10, 2008 12:30:17 GMT -5
i have a theodore Arconge born 1876...S. Dakota he died 22 Jul. 1919 Greenwood,Charles Mix, SDak. _____ Correction of error: theodore died in1909 on that date. I goofed. I am so sorry. _______________________________- Father : Walter Arconge Mther: Fanny Tscinwicawi born 1843...S. Dak. His parents were maried in 1871 Bon Homme...S. Dak. ref: http://www.familyserch.org(latter Day saints Archives) I aslo have Evelyn Arconge born 11 apr. 1897 greenwood,Chas-Mix,SDak. died: 27 Nov.1987 spouse : frederick Benj. Schmidt he was born 6 mar. 1897 Rosebud,Todd,SD they were married 9 Jun 1914...S.Dak. he died 27 Nov. 1968 Eveyln's parents were Louisa Bruguier (d/o charles Bruguier and Maggie Hope), and theodore Arcong(s/oWalter and Fannie Arconge). Evelyn's siblings were: Mabel, Theodore II, Linda, and Evaline. ref. http://www.familysearch.org(LDS Archives) _____________________________ You will find Walter Arconge's Military record at www.rootsweb.com at the world connect Project Link. type his name in the search engine. __________________- i also have found the folowing at Ancestry.com: US Indian census: Yanktonai Sioux,Yankton agency,SD Census Date: July 1903 Theodore Arconge Age34 Annie B. Arconge age 29 children: Mabel age 14, Evaline age 13, Minnie age 6, Matilda age 2 ___ US Indian Census Yanktonai Sioux Tribe, Yankton Agency,SD Theodore was 20 yrs old. wife was Louise B. age 21, and they have a child: Arconge age1/12 ____________________________ US Indian Census 18 aug. 1896 Tribe: Yanktonai sioux, Agency Yahkton,SD Annie bordeaux was listed at age 16, Stepdaughter(Rel. to head of Household) Phllip Deloria Age43 Mary Deloria Age 38 Minnie Deloria Age 11 Ella Deloria Age 8 Philip w. Deloria Age 3 Rosa Deloria Age 3 Susan Mable Deloria age 1 Step-Dau. Rosie bordeaux Age 18 Step-Dau. Annie Bordeaux Age 16 _____________________________ 1920 US census Twp. 37, todd, SD Lists: Peter Bordeaux age 42(orn WY Jul. 1,1878, d:March 1969,Rosebud,Todd,SD) Annie Bordeaux Age 40 Albert Bordeaux age15 Michael Bordeaux age 9 Corrine Bordeaux Age 6 Mercy Bordeaux ________ The 1900 US Census for rosebud Ind. Res., Meyer,SD Lists an annie bordeaux, born 1877, Age 23 married to Felix bordeaux age 26, and chidren:antoine Bordeaux age 3, and Jesse bordeaux age1 and an infant -no name age 6.12 Hope this helps you. |
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 10, 2008 20:00:19 GMT -5
Dear Ray: Yes i know Moses Arconge was marreid to Helen Dickson I assumed you had this information already.
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Post by rayhenry on Mar 11, 2008 0:10:04 GMT -5
Hermin1 I have a lot of it in direct line but there is a lot I don't have and I am trying to fill in. I just two weeks ago heard mabel Arconge was Russell Means grandmother. The main place I am having trouble is with the older Yellow Clouds. I heard that when Dorothy died in 1945 her family came to Soldier Creek and got her body to bury in Greenwood but I have not found her. Thanks for all your help
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 12, 2008 12:21:33 GMT -5
ray: who is dorothy?
I ran across a Yellow cloud or Yellow cloud woman in the crow creek Censuses.
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 12, 2008 13:22:48 GMT -5
In the Civil War Pension Index, I found a Charley Yellowcloud aka Charley Browncloud, Spouse : Olive browncloud.
he served in the US Infantry as a Scout
1923,Aug. 25 filed for Pension-Invalid Appl. #1488038 Cert. # 1258428 S. Dak.
Apr. 16, 1931 FIled for Widow Benefits: App. # 1691415 Cert No " ' ' S. Dak.
remarks: XC 2641962
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At Ancestry.com,I found:
an Anna Yellowcloud born 15 May 1907, d. Jun 1987 Norris,Mellette,SD.
Willian Yellowcloud b. 15 may 1907, died Jun 1987 ,White river, mellette,SD.
Ref. South Dakota Death Index) at ancestry.com
but not much else.
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Post by rayhenry on Mar 12, 2008 14:03:19 GMT -5
I am sorry I should have added that to the tree. The following will bring it to date.
Baby girl provincial
Mother- matilda {Yellow Cloud }Provancial roll#rsu 12534 4/4
father ?
Grand Father- Samuel Phillips {Yellow Cloud} Provincial roll#
A-33488 4/4 Rosebud Sioux born 11/27/1897-died 3-13-1967
Grand Mother Dorothy Arconge Schmidt Yankton Sioux born 8-5-03 died 4-8-39
Dorothy was the daughter of Theodule Arconge and Anne Bordeaux. After Walter died Anne married Cyrus Schmidt. Dorothy had two children for sure before marrying Samuel. A girl and a boy. They are in their 80's. I have yet to find them. Samuel was married 5 times. Nancy White Wash or Millie Not Enogh to Eat fom 7-28- until her death 3-18-24, next to Helen King fom 7-12-26 and divorced 11-127, Than to Dorothy Arconge Schmidt from 1-23-28 until her death, Fourth was to Mercy Lodge Skin from 10-1039 until her death in 11-19-63. Last was Mildred Thick Bread from 3-9-65 until his death on 3-13-65.
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Post by rayhenry on Mar 12, 2008 14:23:09 GMT -5
Since posting the above i received more info. I talked to a Mr. Dickson that has a probate on Poor. Poor is a brother of Yellow Cloud. Some of the other brothers and sisters are Brave provincial, he also shows up on LDS as the son of Sunknape Provincial and Come Stand. On his papers Sunknape is Dog Hand. Than there are Uses Her Knife {Alice}, Good Buffalo Horn, Hurry Little Tail and Her Horse. I have not seen this probate but am suppose to get a copy. Come Stand died in 1914. Sunknape in 1878. There is more and i will add and correct as i get it.
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 12, 2008 22:02:30 GMT -5
Evelyn a. Arconge was amrried to a Frederick Benjamin Schmidt on 9 June, 1919 in so. Dakota. Frederick was born 6 march ,1897 at Rosebud,Todd,SD and he died27 Nov.,1968...S. Dakota(Ref. LDS Archives)
Is Frederick related to this Samu
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Anne Arconge, widow was married to cyrus St. pierreon 13 march, 1911 at tyndall,bon Homme,SD, by e. krause, J.P.
(Ref. South Dakota marriages 1905-1950)
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 12, 2008 23:28:46 GMT -5
the 1920 US Census for White Swan,Chas-Mix,SD, lists Syrus St. Pierre Age 32, anna St. Pierre Age 35, and Step-daughter Dorothy Arcong Age 17.
I could not find anything for a Samuel Phillips Provencial, nor a dorothy Arconge provincial, nor a Dorothy Arconge Schmidt, at either Ancestry.com, or the LDS Archives.
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Post by rayhenry on Mar 13, 2008 11:03:27 GMT -5
Home in 1900- Rosebud Indian Reservation, Meyer, SD
Yellow Cloud " Marpiya-zi" Rosebud Indian Reservation, Meyer, South Dakota abt 1860 Wyoming Indian (Native American) Head
White {Ska} Yellow Cloud Rosebud Indian Reservation, Meyer, South Dakota abt 1873 North Dakota Indian (Native American) Wife
Harris Yellow Cloud {Iron Horn White Rosebud Indian Reservation, Meyer, South Dakota abt 1885 South Dakota Indian (Native American) Son
Estes Yellow Cloud Rosebud Indian Reservation, Meyer, South Dakota abt 1891 South Dakota Indian (Native American) Son
Stauling Yellow Cloud { One Bull}White Rosebud Indian Reservation, Meyer, South Dakota abt 1894 South Dakota Indian (Native American) Son
Philip Yellow Cloud {One Ctow} Rosebud Indian Reservation, Meyer, South Dakota abt 1897 South Dakota Indian (Native American) Son
Come Stand Yellow Cloud Rosebud Indian Reservation, Meyer, South Dakota abt 1825 Wyoming Indian (Native American) Mother
I have quite a bit on the Children but can find nothing on Come Stand and White {Ska}
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Post by rayhenry on Mar 16, 2008 1:32:50 GMT -5
I send the following email this morning to heritagecenter@sintegleska.edu . I want to post it here in case anyone can help.
Hello, I am trying to research Marpitya-zi {Yellow Cloud} I have him as a Sicangu and have a picture of him in 1887 with George Stead, Chief Elk Teeth, Otterman, Horn, One Wood, With Horns, Grey Eagle-Tail, Fast Dog, Turning Eagle, Pulls the Arrow Out, and James Kills Plenty in Cut Meat. Does that give any ideas to what censuses before 1900 I am hunting for? I am lost. I am trying to find more on him, his wife Ska, and his mother Come Stand. I did find a Come Stand married to a Sunknape Provincial on LDS. I hope you can give me an idea on where to look next. My wife is his great granddaughter Her mother is Matilda and her grand father Samuel. Her and our sons are enrolled at the Rosesbud. This tree is to share with all the Yellow Cloud- Provincial family.
Thanks,
Ray Henry.
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Post by rayhenry on Mar 16, 2008 13:52:36 GMT -5
The book, Mellette county also has the following write up on Yellow_Cloud.jpg
There is a mention of Yellow Cloud on page 35. It reads;
Following are some names of the Indians that lived along the Black Pipe Creek at that time: Joe Ashley, Black Bear, Quick Bear, Sleeping Bear, Standing Bear, Bull Tail, Chasing Horse, White Horse, White Feather, Skunks Father, Stands For Them, Shoots At Him, Runs Close To The Village, Singing Goose, Big Owl, Mouseau, Landeau, Wooden Knife, Little Brave, Little Dog, Leading Cloud, Looking Cloud, Yellow Cloud, Night Chase, Medicine Blanket, Little Crow, Eagle Bear, White Mouse, Flying Horse, Dark Face, and First In Trouble.
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Post by rayhenry on Mar 18, 2008 16:31:41 GMT -5
Indian Census Rolls for Rosebud
1891 Census:
Yellow Cloud 30
White Cloud 17 wife
Iron Horn 6 son
One Bull 4/12 son
1892 Census:
Yellow Cloud 32
White 19 wife
Iron Horn 7 son
One Bull 1 son
1895 Census:
Yellow Cloud 35
White 22 wife
Iron Horn or Harris 10 son
One Bull 4 son
Hauling 2 son
1896 Census:
Yellow Cloud 36
White 23 wife
Iron Horn or Harris 11 son
One Bull 4 son
Hauling 3 son
1897 Census:
Yellow Cloud 37
White 24 wife
Iron Horn or Harris 12 son
One Bull 5 son
Hauling 4 son
1898 Census:
Yellow Cloud 38
White 25 wife
Iron Horn or Harris 13 son
One Bull 6 son
Hauling 5 son
Philip 1
1899 Census:
Yellow Cloud 39
White 26 wife
Iron Horn or Harris 14 son
One Bull 7 son
Hauling 6 son
Philip 2
1900 Census:
Yellow Cloud 40
White 27 wife
Iron Horn or Harris 15 son
One Bull 8 son
Hauling 7 son
Philip 3 son
James 1/12 son
1901 Census:
Yellow Cloud 41
White 28 wife
Iron Horn or Harris 16 son
One Bull 9 son
Hauling 8 son
Philip 4 son
James 1 son
1902 Census:
Yellow Cloud 42
White 29 wife
Iron Horn or Harris 17 son
One Bull 10 son
Hauling 9 son
Philip 5 son
James 2 son
1903 Census:
Yellow Cloud 43
White 30 wife
One Bull 11 son
Hauling 10 son
Philip 6 son
James 3 son
Harris Yellow Cloud 18
Holy Woman 69
Alice Yellow Cloud 18 granddaughter
Census 1887:
Provencial husband 46
Comes Out wife 43
White Cloud Son 17
Iron Hip (name difficult to decipher—best guess) Son 5
Yellow Cloud Sister 29
Iron Horn Brother 32
Strange A? Brother 24
Census 1891: Come Stand not found
#2591 Provencial husband 61
Standing Bull wife 51
Little Elk son 26
Census 1892: #3536 Provencial husband 64
#3537 Come Stand wife 63
Census 1895: #2726 Come Stand 66 (no Provencial listed)
Census 1899: #2825 Come Stand 70
Census 1900: #2876 Come Stand 71
Census 1901: #2869 Come Stand 62
Census 1902: #2861 Come Stand 73
Census 1903: #2916 Come Stand 74
Records of the Rosebud Mission of the Episcopal Church
Volume D page 158:
Three sons of Jackson Yellow Cloud baptized on February 28, 1909 at Trinity Chapel, Antelope Creek:
James Yellow Cloud born July 1900 at Rosebud
Samuel Yellow Cloud born November 1897 at Rosebud
Estes Albert Yellow Cloud born January 23, 1890 at Rosebud.
Volume D page 212:
Samuel Philip Yellow Cloud age 21 son of Jackson and Maggie Yellow Cloud of Little White River married Nancy White Wash age 21 daughter of Nellie (White Wash) Jones of Bull Creek on July 28, 1918 at Grace Chapel at the mouth of Soldier Creek.
Volume D page 186:
Estes Albert Yellow Cloud born January 23, 1890 at Rosebud. Baptized February 28, 1909 at Trinity Chapel, Antelope. Confirmed March 3, 1909 at Trinity Chapel.
Volume D page 208:
Estes Yellow Cloud age 26 son of Yellow Cloud and White (Woman) of Little White River married Jennie Little Soldier age 17 daughter of Little Soldier and Fannie White Hawk of Lakeview on August 11, 1915 at the Rectory in Rosebud.
Volume D page 222:
John Iron Horse 58 married Maggie Yellow Cloud 46 on June 20, 1920 at Grace Chapel, mouth of Soldier Creek.
Volume E page 64:
Baptized Saturday December 10, 1910 at Yellow Cloud’s, Grace Station:
William Marpiya Gi (Yellow Cloud) born May 1907 at Little White River near Cut Meat, son of Jackson & Maggie Yellow Cloud.
Alexander Yellow Cloud born May 30, 1910 on the Little White River near Cut Meat to Jackson and Maggie Yellow Cloud.
Maggie Yellow Cloud age 38. (Someone wrote in pencil that she was from Lower Brule)
Volume E page 96:
Daniel Yellow Cloud son of Yellow Cloud & Maggie Yellow Cloud born January 10, 1914 at Lower Cut Meat was baptized March 15, 1914 at St. Marks, Lower Cut Meat.
Volume E page 70:
Peter Yellow Cloud age @7 years and born at Wososo, son of Jackson Marpiya Gi (Yellow Cloud) and Maggie Yellow Cloud baptized May 21, 1911 at Trinity Chapel, Antelope Creek.
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Post by rayhenry on Mar 25, 2008 9:36:18 GMT -5
The Rosebud has Yellow Clouds father as Provenial born 1841- mother as Come Stand.. In tracing the Provencials {now spelled Provincial by most} I ran across the Devil lake census from 1885-1889
the 1885 Devils lake
Harriet Provonsal [Winuna] household members
Wi Cah Pi 69
Mary Provonsal 61[Hupahusnawin]
Harriet Provonsal 13 [Winuna]
Jenwin 6
hapan 5
the 1886 Devils lake
Harriet Provincial household members
Hupahusnawin 64
Harriet Provincial 13
Huwinna 6
Hapan 4
1886 Devils Lake
Daniel Prevoncil [Caske] household members
Nagit Op Awin 52
Tawok Un Ze Waken Win 24
Daniel Prevoncil 3 son
1887 Devils lake
Mary Provencil [Hupahu Su Awin] 63 widow
Kunwi Una 8
Hapanna 6
Harriet 14
the 1887 Devils lake
Nagitopawin 53
Taw Okunzewakauwin 25
Daniel Prevoncil 4
the 1888 Devils lake
Mary Provencial [ Hupahu] 64
Kuwina 9
Hapanna 7
Harriet Provencil [ Winuna] 15
1888 Devils lake
Ohdesa Paon 22
mary 26
Daniel Provon Cil 5 stepson
1889 Devils lake
Mary Provencal 65
Margaret Provencal 10
Hapanna 8
Harriet Provencal 16
1889 Devils Lake
William 23
Mary 27
Daniel Provencal 6 stepson
I think these people tie in with Provenial and Come Stand. The father and mother of Yellow Cloud. Come Stand had 6 children. i would liketo speak to any one having ties or knowing of them. Thanks, Ray
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Post by rayhenry on May 7, 2008 14:57:10 GMT -5
If ever any one runs across Dorothy Arconge - Dorothy Schmidt- Dorothy Arconge Schmidt I really need it. I have her on the 1920 census as 17. Than she shows up married to Samuel Phillips {Yellow Cloud} Provincial on the Rosebud as Dorothy Arconge Schmidt. She died in 1939. I have been to the Rosebud and talked to a lot of the family. Some say she is buried at Soldier Creek. Some say she was taken by her family back to Grenwood. Other than that I can find nothing on her except in the 1920's she had at least two more children and they use the last name Schmidt. I have read ever census, been to the Rosebud 4 time , Talked to everyone I could find in the family, nothing. She has a Rosebud number along wirh her parents Theodule Arconge and Anne Bordeaux. Yet everything on them is Yankton. I am over looking something. Thanks, Ray
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Post by peacekeeper on May 7, 2008 20:17:00 GMT -5
Just a thought. Perhaps the grandparents of this woman were yankton. I know most of the brugier line would be yankton. they descend from chief war eagle (yankton). the family probably moved to rosebud and traded allotments or were able to get allotments through inheritance or purchase. There is always the possibility of adoption or extended families.
Jackie
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Post by rayhenry on May 7, 2008 20:43:47 GMT -5
Thanks jackie, I know that she was 17on 1920 census. I know that she was born in 1903 from Rosebud print out. I just can't figure out where she was those other 29 years before marring Sam. I think that someone else raised her. But where she got the two Schmidt children and the name Schmidt, is running me nuts.I know she is a real person becauseI married her grand daughter and have a picture of her in 1936.
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Post by hermin1 on May 8, 2008 3:30:53 GMT -5
ray: Is it possible she may have been sent to oneof the Indian boarding Schools for a while?
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Post by rayhenry on May 8, 2008 8:37:46 GMT -5
Thanks Hermin1, I never thought of that. I will try that road. On some of the early 1900 census it shows Theodule and Anne Arconge having a daughter minnie born in 1903. { Dorothy's year of birth}
but i am finding Minnie at different years and places so she does not seem to be Dorothy. I never was good at [ chasing women]
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