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Post by linda on Jul 26, 2006 15:00:34 GMT -5
Does anyone have any information on William Saul, Husband Born 1850, Dod, 1919
Martha (don't know maiden name) B. 1840, dod 1924
Ivy Saul Gilbert married to John Gilbert (aka) Henry Little Bird or Bird. Born 1883
Does anyone know who Williams parents are and who Martha's parents names are?
I think William was born in MN.
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Post by dawn on Jul 26, 2006 18:51:17 GMT -5
Williams parents are the same as the ones you posted for John Saul and Martha's parents are Ninahnihdewin and her father was Wakanhdito.
Dawn
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Post by peacekeeper on Jul 26, 2006 19:58:51 GMT -5
William's father was Tasagyemaza, according to his probate.
Martha Saul's Indian name was Buakuwin. This is all that is in the probates of William and Martha Saul. Except that William inherited 1/3 of Sarah Robinson's land.
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Post by hermin1 on Aug 9, 2006 20:45:41 GMT -5
Ivy went by Ivy Lyons Saul for her maiden name.
Martha was married or living with David Boyd before she left him and ran off with William Saul, whom she married.
she was pregnant with David's child( son named David) at the time she left David Boyd.
REf. 1902 Register of santee Indian Families, shows David listed as Step-son to william Saul and martha.
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Post by msaul on Sept 20, 2010 2:38:52 GMT -5
Does anyone know if Alfred Saul (Black Thunder) b.1854 and William Saul (Heyokatokca) b. 1850 are related?
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Post by hermin1 on Sept 20, 2010 13:35:48 GMT -5
yes they were brothers. Their other brother was Rev. John Saul. William was adopted by Cetanwicakte and Sarah Robinson(probate) after his parents died @1856. You can find the Saul Family History at mdenney.proboards.com/index.cgi?Look for it in the section titled: Family Trees |
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Post by msaul on Sept 20, 2010 20:09:28 GMT -5
hermin1,
Thanks for your quick response!
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Post by msaul on Oct 18, 2010 22:45:12 GMT -5
yes they were brothers. Their other brother was Rev. John Saul. William was adopted by Cetanwicakte and Sarah Robinson(probate) after his parents died @1856. You can find the Saul Family History at mdenney.proboards.com/index.cgi?Look for it in the section titled: Family Trees Were the other two bros. (Alfred and John) also adopted by Cetanwicakte? Also: Were the brothers John (born 1878) and Thomas (born 1876) YellowHawk Saul related to them in some way? I believe their father was Solomon YellowHawk (1847-1930) and mother Elizabeth Saul . Thank you ! |
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Post by hermin1 on Oct 19, 2010 11:11:38 GMT -5
msaul: No the other two were not adopted by Cetanwicakte.
I don't have any information in my Saul Family records re. the two Yellowhawk Sauls. Where where they born? Where did they die?
when and where was Elizabeth saul born, and where and when did she die?
Solomon Yellowhawk(Cetan Gi) was born 1846 Cheyenne River Indian Reservation,Dewey ,SD.
(ref. LDS Archives,Provo,Utah).
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Post by scararm on Oct 23, 2010 22:26:44 GMT -5
There are some Yellow Hawks on Cheyenne River There is a Kenneth West's Home with a small cementary on it with some Yellow Hawks buried there wooden crosses a Church where the pasters name is Yellow Hawk. I belive there is a post on here SDEA reports 1935 or something like that has some Yellow Hawks on Cheyenne River Listed. Also a Bessie Yellow Hawk married toa Veo on there. Hope this helps
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Post by lkk on Oct 27, 2010 11:44:39 GMT -5
Yellowhawk had two wives. Woman Hair and the Saul boys' mother. When Christianity came to the Plains, Yellowhawk had to choose between the two. He chose Woman Hair and the other one went to live at Crow Creek, taking her two boys with her.
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Post by msaul on Oct 27, 2010 19:36:29 GMT -5
Regarding Yellowhawk(II?), I found this quote in "Life and Light for Woman"- 1880. It sounds a bit familiar, but do you think it was referring to Woman Hair and Elizabeth Saul as being sisters? I am really kinda confused  about these Saul families/connections. Please help straighten me out on this. Thank you!! EXPERIENCES IN DAKOTA. Miss Irrine, of Fort Sully, whose name has recently been added to the list of our missionaries, writes of her work as follows: — "... The first Sabbath of the new year was a glad day for us. It was then that Yellow Hawk, one of our head men, was sacredly married to his wife, and the Sunday following they were both baptized, and admitted to the church. Yellow Hawk has, we think, for a long time loved the Saviour, and tried to shape his life according to the teachings of the Bible, but there was one obstacle to his uniting with the church He had two wives. They were sisters, both bright, interesting young women. Finally, he said he would marry the one who should, at the end of a certain time, be skillful in all kinds of work. One of them, whom we called " the little ironing woman," came to our house and learned to wash and to iron both plain and starched clothes, to wash dishes and lloors, to sew, etc. She was constant, too, in her attendance at school. At the appointed time she was the most skillful, and Yellow Hawk had almost decided to marry her, when an accident occurred which changed things entirely. One night, in getting up to wait on her little child, she ran against a chair, in the darkness, striking herself in the breast and injuring herself internally. From that time she showed signs of consumption. This was about two years ago, I think. When this little woman was taken sick, Yellow Hawk took back the other wife, to do the work. He was always very kind to the sick one, would wait on her, and, when she was too weak to do it herself, would comb her hair and braid it for her. She lingered on through the winter and spring, and finally died last summer. She was a Christian, we think. She loved the Bible, and read it herself, as long as she was able, and when she became too weak, Miss Collins or I would go and read for her, and sing some of the hymns. So by her death the problem was solved for Yellow Hawk, and now both he and his wife seem very happy. I stopped at their house the other day, on my way home from a visit across the river. Yellow Hawk was reading his Bible, and humming over some of our hymns. Juliet was sitting on the bed, sewing, while the baby, little Bessie, was playing on the floor. They all looked so happy, I wished you could see this Christian Dakota family as I saw it that day. Next month Miss Collins will come home, and I expect to go to our station on the big Cheyenne River, about forty miles from here. Elizabeth Winyan, a native helper from Sisseton Agency, will go with me, and we shall probably be there three or four weeks". Yellowhawk had two wives. Woman Hair and the Saul boys' mother. When Christianity came to the Plains, Yellowhawk had to choose between the two. He chose Woman Hair and the other one went to live at Crow Creek, taking her two boys with her. |
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Post by lkk on Oct 28, 2010 1:03:35 GMT -5
Thomas Saul was born August 1879 at Peoria Bottom near Ft. Pierre. Not sure what his wife's name was but she was born in 1889 at Lindsey, SD. They were married June 1919.
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Post by lkk on Oct 28, 2010 1:09:34 GMT -5
There are some Yellow Hawks on Cheyenne River There is a Kenneth West's Home with a small cementary on it with some Yellow Hawks buried there wooden crosses a Church where the pasters name is Yellow Hawk. I belive there is a post on here SDEA reports 1935 or something like that has some Yellow Hawks on Cheyenne River Listed. Also a Bessie Yellow Hawk married toa Veo on there. Hope this helps scararm Kenneth West is a direct descendant of Chief Yellowhawk. |
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about these Saul families/connections. Please help straighten me out on this. Thank you!! 