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Post by kellyleaf on Aug 1, 2007 18:07:56 GMT -5
I have exhausted all of my efforts on ancestry.com and am now here hoping to get furthur in my research. The families and people I am interested in are: Canwapa, Leaf, Supangi, and Tamazahowastewin. Please, if anyone could point me in the right direction or has any information to give I would greatly appreciate it! Thank you!
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Post by Vicky on Aug 1, 2007 18:30:01 GMT -5
Hello, and welcome to Oyate! Please provide the location of your ancestors and the time-frame we are to look. Any information you can provide will help us help you! Thanks!
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Post by tamara on Aug 1, 2007 21:12:21 GMT -5
I have exhausted all of my efforts on ancestry.com and am now here hoping to get furthur in my research. The families and people I am interested in are: Canwapa, Leaf, Supangi, and Tamazahowastewin. Please, if anyone could point me in the right direction or has any information to give I would greatly appreciate it! Thank you! Supangi is a name I have seen in the Sisseton records. I think my uncle told me it meant Flute. Veblen district. Of course Tamazohowaste is a Sisseton name as well. I am working from memory here to I promise I will "stand in the corner" (hey, Hermin1, long time "no see"!) if I am wrong, but didnt that name figure in the history of Amos OneRoad in Being Dakota? I would offer to look up a few things but I would be getting ahead of myself since I am just now recovering from the recent changes in my life. I am suffered much lately, with no cell phone, no cable, no high speed and even no computer when my power cord on the laptop went on the fritz.. but I am baaack and am now wireless everything! wireless phone, computer, and satellite service, new HP laptop and from a new location. So file boxes are still unorganized but have made it into the house anyway. My suggestion would be to look at the sisseton rolls available on this site. Tamara
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Post by hermin1 on Aug 1, 2007 21:50:04 GMT -5
i had to correct some spelling errors. Tamara: .I have a Smiley Supangi, husband of Mary Finley, d/o Charles Finley and Marpiyahdonicicawin(she died in 1860 at age of @20.). But that is al I have re. him. I have seen the name Tamazahowastewin too, just recently. right now my brain's computer banks are crammed, so I have to look through my records. Leaf brings to mind, Chief Wapasha I. the last one Can wapa, I don't recognize. but you could be right Tamara, the nmes may be of people from Sisseton or Crow Creek. I need more information, than just a name. do yoooou have anything at all on these people, or their relatives?
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Post by hermin1 on Aug 1, 2007 22:57:49 GMT -5
You were right Tamara. I found all of them at Sisseton at least on the 1891 elrod Roll for the sisseton Wahpeton Agency in 1891. supangi means Artichoke seed. I found: tamazahowastewin age 31 wife, thomas supangi(Husband) age 39, Samuel Supangi age 10- son, and Smiley Supangi at ager 3- son. __________________ Canwapa age 45 Warpezewin age 46 wife Pterotawin age 15 daughter, Topakte age 5 son. __________________________ I hope you didn't lose your remote control , I need it towatch TV when I am in the corner. hahahahaI may even put a microwave there too so I can have some popcorn while I watcha movie.
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Post by tamara on Aug 2, 2007 0:06:01 GMT -5
Just going by conversation with my grandmother when we take our evening drive... Can is Tree and I think she told me something similar to Wahpa when I asked her how to say TEA - I love tea and she calls coffee Pajuta Sapa... but that is off topic. We had decided the other day that we would wish to rename all fo the street signs on the reservation or rather have them written in Dakota. So Stop would be Inanjin and children playing would be Cinca Askate... Veterans Avenue would be Canku Akicita, you get the picture... it goes on and on, but when it came to the streets of Oak and Maple etc.. I was at a loss and said then all my streets of that sort would be Canku Can or Tree Street, to which she replied "and no one would get their mail" . She also suggested that if the non-indian community could not read our signs and therefore broke a law we would fine them... just as it was for her grandfathers long ago... lol she is too much! I enjoy her humor and it peaks just before sundown. She also told me how to say Sun, Moon and Stars. The moon has been beautiful and she says it is said "ha wi" -bear in mind someone could dispute alot of things she tells me with a dakota dictionary but to that I would say... well, thats the way my kunsi says it.. i had to correct some spelling errors. Tamara: .I have a Smiley Supangi, husband of Mary Finley, d/o Charles Finley and Marpiyahdonicicawin(she died in 1860 at age of @20.). But that is al I have re. him. I have seen the name Tamazahowastewin too, just recently. right now my brain's computer banks are crammed, so I have to look through my records. Leaf brings to mind, Chief Wapasha I. the last one Can wapa, I don't recognize. but you could be right Tamara, the nmes may be of people from Sisseton or Crow Creek. I need more information, than just a name. do yoooou have anything at all on these people, or their relatives?
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Post by kellyleaf on Aug 2, 2007 11:17:14 GMT -5
All of the messages back have been on the right track the furthest I can track the families is the Ft. Traverse Reservation in 1887. I have been told the name Canwapa means Leaf (hence my last name being Leaf) but am unsure... Everyone I listed before I have found on the Elrod rolls. Oh, by the way you guys rock! )
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Post by hermin1 on Aug 2, 2007 14:55:52 GMT -5
You should check out the Pre Up rising Minnesota Indian annuity rols. I know that a couple of them are posted on our website. they would be in an Index of Census Rolls section. the problem here is that you will only see the names of the heads of families, # of men,# of children, nd # of women. Haza means berry waste means good or pretty, win means women. if you tried the Indian Census rolls at Ancestry.com that is the best betto find these people, athey gotothe year1940. Tamara: then Canwapa means Tea leaf? iwill add that to my notebook of indian names.
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Post by hermin1 on Aug 2, 2007 15:16:17 GMT -5
You should check out the Pre Up rising Minnesota Indian annuity rols. I know that a couple of them are posted on our website. they would be in an Index of Census Rolls section. the problem here is that you will only see the names of the heads of families, # of men,# of children, nd # of women. Haza means berry waste means good or pretty, win means women. if you tried the Indian Census rolls at Ancestry.com that is the best betto find these people, athey gotothe year1940. Tamara: then Canwapa means Tea leaf? iwill add that to my notebook of indian names. Pardon my blooper 11 Haza means Blueberry. so hazawastewin's name would be Pretty Bluebery woman< I think.
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Post by tamara on Aug 2, 2007 18:50:25 GMT -5
You should check out the Pre Up rising Minnesota Indian annuity rols. I know that a couple of them are posted on our website. they would be in an Index of Census Rolls section. the problem here is that you will only see the names of the heads of families, # of men,# of children, nd # of women. Haza means berry waste means good or pretty, win means women. if you tried the Indian Census rolls at Ancestry.com that is the best betto find these people, athey gotothe year1940. Tamara: then Canwapa means Tea leaf? iwill add that to my notebook of indian names. I am sorry that I cant be real definite on that and can admit when I am unsure. I really do believe that it does mean Tree Leaf or just Leaf, but will ask Grandma when she comes back in from outside. She enjoys this time of day and sits in the lawn swing and watches the kids. Someone has a new trick on the Swingset and probably knows who hit who with the plastic pirate sword.... Tamara
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Post by peacekeeper on Aug 2, 2007 18:56:12 GMT -5
Hi guys! In my English to Dakota and in my Dakota to English dictionaries, they both state that canwapa means leaf, leaves, or branch of leaves. I would stick with leaf.
Jackie
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Post by tamara on Aug 2, 2007 19:04:23 GMT -5
Hi guys! In my English to Dakota and in my Dakota to English dictionaries, they both state that canwapa means leaf, leaves, or branch of leaves. I would stick with leaf. Jackie Thank you Jackie!
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Post by kellyleaf on Aug 3, 2007 13:12:36 GMT -5
I know I am going out on a limb here, but here is a list of names that I have connected with my family thusfar. Ready, set.....
CANWAPA LEAF, JOHN abt 1846 m. WARPIGIWIN, NANCY - PTEROTWIN abt 1876 - TAKAKTE, CHARLES R abt 1887 <---My line
1906: CANWAPA/LEAF, CHARLES R m#1 HANNAH DICK (abt 1885) - SAMUEL (abt 1908) - CHRISTIAN (abt 1911) - REBECCA A (abt 1919) +married NATHAN WILSON - EVA (abt 1923) +married WESLEY BLUE 21Nov 1910: MY Line -----------> CANWAPA/LEAF, CHARLES R m#2 NANCY SUPANGI (abt 1895) -ELSIE (abt1913) +Adopted by LEO DEGAR +married JOHN GREYWIND -MABEL F (abt 1916) -RUFUS JOHN (1918) <--------My line Now for the SUPANGI FAMILY!!...Deep breath almost done!
SUPANGI, THOMAS m TAMAZAHOWASTEWIN (louisa) (abt 1869) -SAMUEL (abt 1994) +married EMMA W. PASSINGSTAR (abt 1884) - WILLIAM (abt 1909) - HARVEY (abt 1911) - NIOMA (abt 1915) - GRACE (abt 1916) +married HERBERT BRANT - MINNISHA/MANASSEH (abt 1917) - STEPHEN (abt 1921) - SMILEY (abt 1888) +married MARY FINLEY + married MARY HILL +married HELEN SIYAKA / PIPIYA (abt 1881) -stepson GUY PIPIYA -adopted HENRY ST. JOHN (1911) - NANCY (abt 1893) <My Line <---------- - JOSHUA / JONAH (1896) +Had a child that didn't survive with NORA ADAMS .......Thats all folks!
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Post by tamara on Aug 3, 2007 13:55:56 GMT -5
I know I am going out on a limb here, but here is a list of names that I have connected with my family thusfar. Ready, set..... CANWAPA LEAF, JOHN abt 1846 m. WARPIGIWIN, NANCY - PTEROTWIN abt 1876 - TAKAKTE, CHARLES R abt 1887 <---My line 1906: CANWAPA/LEAF, CHARLES R m#1 HANNAH DICK (abt 1885) - SAMUEL (abt 1908) - CHRISTIAN (abt 1911) - REBECCA A (abt 1919) +married NATHAN WILSON - EVA (abt 1923) +married WESLEY BLUE 21Nov 1910: MY Line -----------> CANWAPA/LEAF, CHARLES R m#2 NANCY SUPANGI (abt 1895) -ELSIE (abt1913) +Adopted by LEO DEGAR +married JOHN GREYWIND -MABEL F (abt 1916) -RUFUS JOHN (1918) <--------My line Now for the SUPANGI FAMILY!!...Deep breath almost done! SUPANGI, THOMAS m TAMAZAHOWASTEWIN (louisa) (abt 1869) -SAMUEL (abt 1994) +married EMMA W. PASSINGSTAR (abt 1884) - WILLIAM (abt 1909) - HARVEY (abt 1911) - NIOMA (abt 1915) - GRACE (abt 1916) +married HERBERT BRANT - MINNISHA/MANASSEH (abt 1917) - STEPHEN (abt 1921) - SMILEY (abt 1888) +married MARY FINLEY + married MARY HILL +married HELEN SIYAKA / PIPIYA (abt 1881) -stepson GUY PIPIYA -adopted HENRY ST. JOHN (1911) - NANCY (abt 1893) <My Line <---------- - JOSHUA / JONAH (1896) +Had a child that didn't survive with NORA ADAMS .......Thats all folks! I would venture to guess tha mr Canwapa wife Nancy is Wah pa gi win or Brown Leaf Wapagiwin Wapa leaf gi brown the information you are posting expalins why my uncle would note the Supangi family since they adopted a St John -our family name. looks good to me and I could double check a few things to see if I can add anything. Tamara PS We have a very knowledgeable man on this board named Tokakte and I am thinking that is actually the name you are trying to show...
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Post by mdenney on Aug 3, 2007 14:42:23 GMT -5
Tamara I think the words to discribe what you "going out on a limb" has just done...how remarkable this layout of information, seriously Tamara...you branched this list you provided for the people.
***Would this help kellyleaf?***
Nice work tamara and welcome back...
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Post by mdenney on Aug 6, 2007 15:51:55 GMT -5
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Post by kellyleaf on Sept 14, 2007 17:39:20 GMT -5
A photo and a wonderful one!- gratefully yours, Kelly
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