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Post by Mitchell on Oct 25, 2006 20:29:51 GMT -5
Han Koda!
Researching Gr. Gr. Grandparents , lived in MN/ Sisseton,SD
Charles Mitchell Sr. / Tahansi b. 1820 and
wife Eliza / Mahpiyapahdewin and their children:
Ameilia Mitchell/ Bidi
Charles Mitchell
George Mitchell
John Mitchell
Pidamayaye ye!
Karen
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tonya
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Post by tonya on Oct 25, 2006 22:00:39 GMT -5
Do you know Ida (sorry I do not know her last name) and Minnie from Sioux City Iowa. I think they are Mitchelle decendents. Tonya
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Post by hermin1 on Oct 25, 2006 23:12:06 GMT -5
charles Mitchell (Jr) Oinkpa Age 47
Parents: Charles Mitchell Sr., Mahpeyapahdewin
spouse: Lillie Mitchell nee Lecroix Age 54
children:
thomas
Agnes
Mary
George
Bert(Berty)
William
Louis
Nellie
Charles
John A. Deceased(1956) Catholic Cemn. Santee
Elizabeth
Millie
Ellen w/o Henry James
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John H. Mitchell Age 29 born NE,Parents b. Minn
wife Cecelia J. Age 29 she and parents born NE
Rorenda M. Mitchell daughter Age 6
Ref. 1920 US Census Santee,Knox,NE
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all I have on George is that his parents were Charles Mitchell and Lillie Mitchell.
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Charles Mitchell Sr. aka Takansi Age 65
REf. 1884 Census Sntee
the 1880 US. Census for Santee lists him at age 61, as Indian Interpreter, white, widower,born in Wisconsin, Father born England, and Mother born Michigan.
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Post by Mitchell on Oct 26, 2006 6:22:22 GMT -5
Thank you for your replies!! Pidamayaye y!!
Would you happen to know who Eliza-MAHPIYAPAHDWIN parents were? And why would her husband Charles Sr. have an Indian name without being Indian? How about land given to him and he is white in NE.? Was she from Mn? Mi? or Mo?
Karen
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Post by hermin1 on Oct 29, 2006 1:23:11 GMT -5
Charles Mitchell,Jr. was a 1/2 blood, which means one of his parents was a full blood.
I don't know who Charles Mitchell Sr.'s wife's parents were.
I also don't know why Charles Sr. was given an Indian name either. I do not believe that non-Indians were given land by the govt. he had to have some Indian blood in him, unless he got his land under the Homestead Act.
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Post by peacekeeper on Oct 29, 2006 7:53:51 GMT -5
just a thought. charles sr. and his wife could have each been 1/2 bloods, making charles jr. a 1/2 blood. if charles sr.'s father was from england, he was white. his mother was from michigan she was indian, most probably objibwe (just guessing). that would have made charles sr., at the most, a 1/2 blood.
jackie
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Post by hermin1 on Oct 29, 2006 11:00:32 GMT -5
That would make sense,to me jackie.
theother possibility though is that his fther may havebeen white, but his mother was a full blood. since the child inherits 1/2 his genes from each parent, this too would explain him beinga half blood. but the 1880 Cnesus says he was white.Now all we need to do is find out who Charles Mitchell Sr.'s parents names were.
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Post by Vicky on Oct 29, 2006 11:18:24 GMT -5
"Now all we need to do is find out who charles Mitchell Sr.'s parents names were. "
This is the million dollar question! If anyone can find out, there will be a lot of happy dancing Mitchell folks! Many many thanks in advance for any help you can provide!!!
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Post by Vicky on Oct 29, 2006 11:24:05 GMT -5
Oh, sorry, guess I should mention- on the Lake Pepin docs. Charles claims to be "white" as well as all the censuses I can find- he is listed as "white". He does appear on all the Santee Indian censuses though. It is the land allotment which is the part that puzzles us. I have made many inquiries to Santee with no results, so if anyone can pull any strings there, I would be most grateful. Thanks!
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Post by tamara on Oct 29, 2006 13:06:33 GMT -5
I am trying to backtrack on some information I had read a ways back in papers and books online at ancestry.com and library of congress possibly in some of the links Denny but on the board for online reading resources. I had thought that I had read that charles mitchell was mixed blood chippewa. I only mention this without the backing to prove it since we are at a point where we are just speculating. I am hoping that I will come across this again as I re read everything.. unless of course it was one of a few documents I have saved on my "down" computer... oh well, my voice it coming back and I am on the upswing so maybe my luck will be too!
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Post by peacekeeper on Oct 29, 2006 14:42:36 GMT -5
yes, i think that he was indeed chippewa or objibwe. i think charles mitchell sr. was in my ggggggrandfather's will as a witness. they operated out of michmillimac at the time, and the people were objibwe or chippewa. when i was trying to find out the difference between the two, i was told that basically they were the same. i think that objibwe meant chippewa and another type mixed in. i know there is information in michigan on this family. you might try to contact the churck on machinac island. they might have records of this family. i think the name is st. anne's. i am unsure thought it has been awhile since i read about it.
jackie
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Post by fwaukazoo on Oct 29, 2006 22:12:37 GMT -5
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Post by hermin1 on Oct 29, 2006 22:16:55 GMT -5
Go to Ancestry.com and plug in the following for Charles Mitchell: born England in 1819, and died 19** Nebraska and see what you come up with.
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Post by Vicky on Oct 30, 2006 13:21:22 GMT -5
Thank you to all who are so generous to offer assistance on this Mitchell. I am pasting his time-line here to add places, dates, etc. We have exhausted all ancestry.com and familysearch resources, as well as the other genealogical sites. Any help is most appreciated.
Thank you so much,
Vicky
TIMELINE FOR CHARLES C. MITCHELL SR.
Father born- England
Mother born- Michigan
Charles C. Mitchell born- Wisconsin- about 1820- occupation; laborer, interpreter
1854- Outing with Little Crow. Lived near Redwood? Has wife and two children, not named. (Word Carrier)
1856- Lake Pepin doc.- Lived at the mouth of the Cottonwood in Minn. Terry. New Ulm area? Wife not named. Two children- John age six and Charles Jr. age 2.
1862-1864- Served with the 10th MN Infantry as a Private. Was a Renville Ranger.
1865 County census- Lived in Mendota, Dakota County, MN. Wife Eliz. Three children, Charles, George, Emily (Millie).
1870 Federal census- Lived at Granite Falls, Chippewa County, MN.
Charles, wife is listed as Millie. (error?) Children are-
Charles- 18
George- 14
Millie- 12
1873- Daughter Millie married to Fred LaCroix at Hawk Creek, Renville County, MN.
1874- First appeared on the Santee Indian Census. Lived alone. Age 60. (?) Member of Husasa’s band.
1877- Acted as official interpreter for the Santee on signing of the Treaty of 1877.
1880 Federal Census- Lived at Santee. Widowed. Age 61.
1882- Acted as official interpreter for the Santee on signing of the Treaty of 1882.
1883- Supreme Court Case- United States vs. Mitchell
1885- Appears on the Census of Santee Indians. Lives alone. Age 66.
1890- Surviving Soldiers Census. Served from 1862 to 1864. Resides at Santee.
1894- the last year Charles appears on the Santee Indian census. Age 75.
Feb. 11 or 13, 1895 died at Santee.
Charles is listed as ‘white” on all documents. However, he had an allotment number in 1874, received an allotment of land, had an Indian name, Tahanse, and appeared on all Santee Indian Censuses.
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