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Post by rani723 on Sept 19, 2006 14:04:49 GMT -5
 Parents of Jean Shaw: John Crow-no other information Skawin -303A000961 Parents of Isnawin: Tunkansabiciya (think this is misspelled) No information. Mazatowin - 303A001133 (no other info) Great Great Grandparents: Stephan Brown(owl)-303A000352 Wakankiyandewin-303A001136 (name may be misspelled, no further information. Alfred Littlewind-303A000223 (no information on this person here. Jean Shaw-303A000155 Indian name is Wikona (no meaning and maybe misspelled) Matohakihota-303A000346 need English name and further information Toyatena No information and need English name Wamuhoats no English name and information Isnawin-303A001134 need English name and information Please let us know what you can find please. Thank you
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Post by hermin1 on Sept 19, 2006 23:29:58 GMT -5
I don't have much, and this may not be your John Crow:
this John Crow was Age 3 in the 1884 Santee Census. His parents were Joseph Crow aka Kangi, and Mary Hanyetumazawin. He had a sister named Alice age 9/12 at the time of the census.
skawin means White Woman
Mazatowin means Blue Iron Woman
Jean shaw's indian name should be Winona(first born,if a female)
Mato hakihota: Mato means bear, hota I think means grey, or ashes?
the fact that you have their ID numbers should help you find their probates at theBIA office .
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Post by peacekeeper on Sept 20, 2006 0:03:41 GMT -5
matohota means grizzly bear and i am not sure what haki means
jackie
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Post by hermin1 on Sept 21, 2006 1:09:01 GMT -5
alfred Littlewind was born @ 1876 ND. He died Jan 7, 1923 at Canton, Lincoln, SD
1900 US Census for Devils Lake Ind. Res. Benson,ND lists Alfred at age 24, with Skawinhead of the family, Age42 , and Alfred's wife Jean age 19.
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I would suggest that you check out past issues of the Local Newspapers at fort Totten, ND. for Obituaries.
You could also try and contact Mr. Louis Garcia, who imay be able to help you. ed50 would be able to tell you how to contact him,. Send her a PM.
I did notice that there are some people with the surname Littlewind living in Minnesota.
Sorry I can't help you with the rest, at this time.
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Post by rani723 on Oct 3, 2006 8:37:18 GMT -5
Thanks! alot for Ur help but I'm needing a little more assistance with names keep coming up with no cooperations from anyone when it comes to sharing info.
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Post by bruledude04 on Oct 3, 2006 9:29:14 GMT -5
Mazatowin, was the wife to Bonenecklace. I had seen that somewhere, in some papers I had, don't know if that is the same one. As alot of some names were used more than once.
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Post by micdiserly on Oct 4, 2006 17:18:29 GMT -5
who is bonenecklace and where did he reside and who are his parents and grandparents? also who is Joseph crow aka kangi? I was told that my great grand parents, James brown owl but took the owl off sometimes later had a brother who was a scout and fought at several battles including the one between Jamestown and fort totten, know anything about this and where can I get the information on my great grandfather's brother who was a scout?
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Post by micdiserly on Oct 4, 2006 17:41:49 GMT -5
who was matohakihota? how about toyatena? Is this spelled right Wamuhoats? How about Wakankiyandewin?
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Post by hermin1 on Oct 6, 2006 3:10:08 GMT -5
Joseph Crow was married to Mary Crow, the daughter of Martha(Tashinahotewin) and James Redwing.
re. your ancestor being a scout, i believe there are some lists of Scouts in the Archives section of our website, that you can check. Oneof them is Browns List, and then there is Elrod's list of scouts that was compiled in 1892.
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Post by rani723 on Oct 6, 2006 15:43:29 GMT -5
Does anyone have a clear scouts list that they may want to share. the one i have is unclear and was printed July 1891 inner ocean Devils Lake ND. please e-mail if you can mine is sorta faded and starts at #76 missing everything.
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Post by rani723 on Oct 6, 2006 15:47:01 GMT -5
From my last post i would like to know if anyone, came up with some info about anyone from my list of family members from my tree. thanks
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Post by peacekeeper on Oct 6, 2006 21:50:01 GMT -5
hi rani. i have sent you the eldon's list of scouts and soldiers.
jackie
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Post by denney on Oct 6, 2006 22:09:25 GMT -5
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Post by ed50 on Oct 7, 2006 20:04:55 GMT -5
Rani, I have an heirship and it lists Littlewind, Taticistena and was married to a Jean or Jennie Littlewind, and their children were Joseph Littlewind, Rose Littlewind, Agnes Littlewind, Mary Ann Littlewind, Jerome Littlewind, Henry Littlewind, and Rosalie Littlewind. Nothing is listed for his parents or grandparents. It does list Alfred Littlewind as (Taticistena) Looks like Jean divorced Littlewind in 1914, and married William Shaw. Hope is helps you.
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Post by rani723 on Oct 10, 2006 13:17:26 GMT -5
Thank you to those that have responded the info that you have given me I'm hoping will help me out in a big way. my search from 2 years ago i hope can finally move forward. this Begin as a class assignment and went on to be more because i kept coming to an end of a trail but i have always tried to find another starting point so that i can continue my search. I'll let you know if i can get anywhere with all the info.
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Post by khowe53 on Jan 2, 2007 20:52:26 GMT -5
I have a family tree of DK How who lists Bone Necklace(Huhunapin) and Mazotonwin as the mother, I also have the baptismal record.
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Post by SR Spirit Lake on Jan 30, 2008 23:37:34 GMT -5
MazaToWin in on my family tree, -- But the tree does not say she was married to a "Bone Necklace", rather to "Tunkasabiciye" (Makes Himself BlackStone)...does any one have any additional info? It would be appreciated....
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Post by BIG JON on Jan 31, 2008 1:06:06 GMT -5
FIRST OFF, YOU SHOULD SIGN IN AND BECOME A PART OF OUR OYATE...SO WE CAN RESPOND TO YOU BY PMAIL(PERSONAL MESSAGES)
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HI I THINK THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE NAMED --MAZATOWIN(BUT I COULD BE WRONG)...
THE (MAZATOWIN + BONE NECKLACE) ARE LOWER YANKTONAI FROM FT. THOMPSON(CROW CREEK)...THEIR SONS ARE
WHITE GHOST
THOMAS FAST WALKER
DK HOWE(ONSPESNI-DON'T KNOW HOW)
MARK DOG BACK
WILLIAM FRENCH WIZI(WIZI-YELLOW SMOKE LODGE)
AND POSSIBLY ONE OR TWO OTHERS...
ALTHOUGH AFTER THE UPRISING THIS BAND TURNED THEMSELVES IN AT FT WADSWORTH 1864(SISSETON)-SO THEY WERE IN THE AREA FOR A TIME...
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I THINK TUNKANSABICIYE(YOU TRANSLATE AS--'Makes Himself BlackStone'(HOW DO YOU TRANSLATE THIS?-FROM A DOCUMENT? SOMEBODY YOU KNOW?)
TUNKAN-STONE(FATHER IN LAW)
TUNKASILA-GRANDFATHER(GREAT SPIRIT)
SA-RED
SAB(SAPA-THE B AND P -MAKE THE SAME SOUND)-DARK RED OR BLACK
SABICIYE-PAINTS/MAKES IT RED(DARK RED, OR BLACK)
TAWA-POSESSIVE(MEANING MINE OR HIS OWN)--I DON'T SEE THIS IN THAT NAME(IT WOULD PROBABLY BEGIN WITH TA-)
COULD BE (PAINTS THE STONE DARK RED)(POSSIBLY RED STONE OR BLACK STONE)...DO YOU HAVE AN ENGLISH NAME FOR HIM?
I DON'T QUESTION YOUR TRANSLATION, I ONLY SEEK TO OPEN YOUR MIND TO THE WORLD OF POSSIBILITY...TO GIVE YOU MORE OPTIONS...
DAKOTA IS NOT A LANGUAGE OF NAMES, BUT A LANGUAGE OF DESCRIPTIONS
BACK THEN SOME OF OUR PEOPLE USED A BLUE OR RED PAINTED STONE TO REPRESENT THEIR GRANDFATHER(OR ANCESTORS)...THERE ARE MANY REFERENCES TO USING THESE AS HOLY OBJECTS(READ OLD BETS BY MARK DIETRICH)...THAT THEY HAD A SPIRIT...EVEN SO MUCH AS TO PROTECT THEM FROM OUTSIDE FORCES...THEY ROUTINELY DANCED AND SANG SONGS TO AND ABOUT THESE STONES... AND CARRIED THEM IN A PLACE OF HONOR WHEN MOVING...
AND PEOPLE WERE NAMED FOR EVENTS IN THEIR LIFE...
THERE IS ALSO A TRAIN OF THOUGHT THAT THE COLORS HAD GREAT EFFECT ON THEM...BLACK AND WHITE...LIL'A VS SIC'A...GOOD VS BAD...AND AS SUCH BLACK IS A COLOR THAT IS WAKAN(SACRED)...THEREFORE A SKUNK WAS CONSIDERED SACRED DUE TO ITS COLORS(THO' I'M SURE THE SMELL HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT TOO!)
SO IF HE PAINTED THE STONE BLACK THERE WAS A VERY GOOD REASON BEHIND IT...AND HE WAS NAMED AFTER IT...
TRYING TO HELP...JUST MY THOUGHTS...JON
AND HDAKOYAKEWIN(SHE WEARS BELLS)
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Post by wakanhotanin on Feb 1, 2008 9:36:20 GMT -5
Most of these people whose names you have posted are Spirit Lake tribal members.
I have some of the information you seek.
Just ask me one by one.
I teach college carpentry and always pressed for time.
Tunkan are the small stones sent out to find information.
I translate Tunkan as a Holy Stone.
Sabiya means dirty.
Ici is self reflection.
A Holy stone that makes himself dirty (refering to the color black or brown).
Later,
Louie
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Post by SR Spirit Lake on Feb 9, 2008 1:58:54 GMT -5
Parents of Isnawin: Tunkansabiciya (think this is misspelled) No information.
Mazatowin - 303A001133 (no other info)
Isnawin-303A001134 need English name and information
These are the names that Im interested in --- thank you both for the information and responses....any and all additional information would be appreciated.
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