Philbrick/Howe/Walker info

[Donna]

Edna Tunkalutawin's mother is NOT Uncagewin. Edna(Ella) was first wife of Wm Carpenter. Uncagewin was the mother of William's third wife Mary Wickem. She was married to D.K. How. Mary Wickam did NOT have children with Wm French Wizi. His wife was Elizabeth or possible Tunkan

[Donna]

khowe53 said:

Hi donnakentch, I am researching Mary Carpenter too! Is Mary Labeau also Maggie Crow? Mary's father was Wickam but I could not read the first name on the register when Mary and William were married. Karen

[BIG JON]

BY DECEMBER 1864 THE GROWING FRIENDLY SISSETON AND WAHPETON CAMP ESTABLISHED AT FISH LAKE(SIX MILES NE OF FT.-DEVILS LAKE) INCLUDED THE CHIEFS SCARLET PLUME, RATTLING MOCCASIN, UNIFORM, LIGHT FACE, SWEET CORN, WASUKIYE, AND THE YANKTONNAI CHIEF MDOKA(BUCK)(BONE NECKLACE)...WAANATAN DIDN'T SHOW,...WHILE THE OTHER CHIEFS WERE SURRENDERING, STANDING BUFFALO MOVED OFF TO THE MISSOURI...HE AND YANKTONAI CHIEFS WERE CALLED FOR BY THE CHEYENNES(NOW AT WAR WITH THE U.S.--SAND CREEK-11/29/64)

JON

[hermin1]

karen: do a search at Ancestry.com for Sophia Howe, born @1861 South Dakota, and died 19** in south Dakota.
William Walker( born @ 1862-1864) was listed as a Mixed blood. He and Sophia were married when he was 22 years old,or @ 1884-1886 in South dakota.. question is, did they marry by ceremony or Ind. custom. If the latter, then there is no record.
Did you try the Delayed Birth registrations at the South Dakota GenWeb site? type Delayed Birth registrations south Dakota in your search browser and see what you come up with.

[hermin1]

Re. Wizi, the 1886 nov. census for the crow creek Agency lists him at age 50, husband, along with:
Wasekna mani Walks in Pink age 37 wife
Robert Wizi age 10 son, Gray Wizi age 3 , and Annie Wizi age 7 daughter.

[hermin1]

The following are at the Nat. Archives Rec. Admin. in Washington,DC:
Entry 617: Rolls for Revisions of names of Indians 1903-1910. consists of 7 vols. and includes unbound papers. this is the result of the work that Dr. Charles Eastman did for the BIA from 1903-1909/10. He was assigned to give an English name to the Indians at the Montana, South and North Dakota reservations, apparently.
this information is worth having . Unfortunately I don't have the means to access the information.
these were compiled to establish permanent Family names for the Indians of several agencies in North Dakota,South Dakota and Montana.
entries for each indicvidual give his permanent name,position in the family, Indian Name, former English Name, sex, age, names of relatives and sometimes other information.
The rolls listed are for:
Cheyenne River reservation(unbound)
Devils Lake
Lower Brule
Fort Peck
Pine Ridge
Rosebud
Sisseton
Standing Rock Agencies

Names of family groups are entered together, Most of the entries are listed by the permanent English name, but some are arranged by the former english name.
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Entry 617A. Revision of Names roll of Sisseton and Wahpeton Sioux South Dakota, 1903, 1 Vol.(note this has the code CA-2 on the cover). The roll is arranged by number on the roll.and contains revisions of the names on the Sisseton and Wahpeton Allotment Roll.The numbers run all the way to number 2116.

[tamara]

hermin1 said:

the following are at the Nat. Archives Rec. Admin. in Washington,DC:
entry 617 Rolls for Revisions of names of Indians 1903-1910. consists of 7 vols. and includes unbound papers. this is the result of the work tht Dr. Charles Eastman did for the BIA from 1903-1909/10. He was asigned to give an english name to the Indians in south and North Dkota, apparently.
this information is worht having . Unfortunately I don't have th means to access the information.
these were compiled to establish permanent Fa,oily names for the Indians of several agencies in North Dakota,south Dakota and Montana.
entries for each indicvidual give his permanent name,position in the family, Indian Name, former English Name, sex, age, names of relatives and sometimes other information.
the roolls listed are for:
cheyenne River reservation(unbound)
Devils Lake
Lower Brule
fort Peck, Pine Ridge
Rosebud
siosseton
standing Rock Agencies

names of family groups are entered together, Moatof the entries are listed by the permanent English name, but some are arrange d by the former english name.
_________
Entry 617A. Revision of Names roll of sissetonand Wahpeton Sioux south Dakota, 1903, 1 Vol.(note this has the code CA-2 on the cover). The roll is arranged by number on the roll.and contains revisions of the names on the Sisseton and Wahpeton Allotment Roll.The numbers run all the way to number 2116

I need to see this soooo bad!! I am thinking I wont be able to rest until I get my hands on it! I have seen a reference to this before but nothing so specific...

[hermin1]

I gree Tamara. A friend who has been to that archives says that each page is about 17 inces long.kinda like the Mclaughlin roll(I had to make two passes to get both halves of one page of the roll). I believe the cost is 50 cents per copy.

What I wish I had is a copy of the Sisseton-Wahpeton allotment Roll. I have the seen a copy of the Santee Allotment roll at the First Nations Outreach Center(former native Family Resource Center).

[carllee1]

hermin1 said:

I have been wondering the same thing. i learned that some of them took their surnames from their Metis(French), or Dutch, or english, or fathers.
Then one of the Eastmans, I believe it was Charles Eastman , that was hired by the BIA to assign English names to the Siouxs, around 1903. He worked on the project for 6 years. the reason given, was that they needed english names to become american Citizens.

Where can I get more info concerning the giving of English names for the purpose of making American citizens.

Could this info be at the Dallas/Ft Worth Nat'l Archive or possibly at the KC Nat'l Archive?

(Just a side note: My family never asked to be American citizens, but they got names and the citizenship, nevertheless)

[hermin1]

Carllee1: What is there about what I posted above that you didn't comprehend. the project that Charles Eastman worked on, as far as I can tell, involved just the Indians at the above reservations.
type the following into google : Dr. Charles Eastman. Oneof theweb sites has his biogrphy which tells about this project he was hired t do.
We didn't ask to be born either, but here we are. We just must make the best of our situation. I don't mean to be harsh, but that is how it is.
From a genealogical, and practical aspect,assigning a n Englih name makes it easier to find the information on someone, instead of having to deal with 6 different people named Cekpawin, or the 3 Tatiyopawastewins, and so on and so forth.etc.

[Tim Spomer]

I am researching my lineage. I have a grandmother and grandfather (Paul LaBeau) deceased, in Philip S.D. They had a son named Don LaBeau, deceased. I would like to research this back to France and hopefully even further. A french trapper came down from Canada I think, then later the Missouri river, and onto New Orleans, had a child or children with a indian woman, etc.etc... Can anybody help? I dont know the name of this trapper, last name seems to be Labeau. I have a 1/2 brother i havent found yet either. His name is Nathan (LaBeau?) last info was he and his mother, different last name, moved to San Diego in the early 70's? My name is Tim Spomer, adopted into the Spomer family in S.D.

[hermin1]

tim: One place to start would be to ask your adopted parents for information on your parents.
You couldalso try theplace where yousay your grandfather paul leBeau died. You don't say when he died, which would have been of some help in a search.
Try the South Dakota Historical Society in Pierre,SD and ask for their help.

[hermin1]

tim:
I have found the following but don't know if this is your LeBeau:

Paul leBeau Age 27 Batchelor
Residence: cheyenne Indian Res., Dewey ,SD
Bride; rose Lieth Age 30 divorced
residence; Cheyenne Ind. Res., Dewey,SD
Date; 19 March, 1919 Aberdeen, Brown, SD
official:George R. sime,county Judge
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1900 US Census cheyenne Indian Reservation,DEwey ,SD
John Baptiste leBeau born Jul, 1851 Age 43 b.SD,Father b. Missouri,Mother B.SD
wife; Julia Age44 b.Minn. Father b. Minn.,Mother B. SD
son EDward AGE 31 b. SD ,
dau. Amy age 16 b. SD
son Albert age 9 b. SD
son Patrick Age 4b. SD
son paul Age 2 b.SD
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i can't find anything more on this Paul other than the Marriage Record above.
I came to a brick wall in re. to ohn baptiste LeBeau also
but I did find a John Baptiste LeBeau in the US Civil War Records 1861-1865 Film: M390 roll 28
he was a private
Served with the Union Army
33rd Missouri Infantry Company K
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i am thining that you should try the Cheyenne Indian Reservation Tribal office and see what they cancome up with.

[Donna]

Tim said:

I am researching my lineage. I have a grandmother and grandfather (Paul LaBeau) deceased, in Philip S.D. They had a son named Don LaBeau, deceased. I would like to research this back to France and hopefully even further. A french trapper came down from Canada I think, then later the Missouri river, and onto New Orleans, had a child or children with a indian woman, etc.etc... Can anybody help? I dont know the name of this trapper, last name seems to be Labeau. I have a 1/2 brother i havent found yet either. His name is Nathan (LaBeau?) last info was he and his mother, different last name, moved to San Diego in the early 70's? My name is Tim Spomer, adopted into the Spomer family in S.D.

[Donna]

Sorry about that. I hit the wrong key and my message dissapeared and the quote was posted. I'll start over again.

Tim. I have a copy of the Family Tree of Antoine LeBeau, Sr. from Cheyenne Eagle Butte. I think this is the family you are looking for. Antoine Sr. was born in France about 1830. He came to the USA via Quebec, then down to Louisiana. From there he went up to St. Louis and up the Missouri and ended up in LeBeau, SD. It was named after him.

Antoine LeBeau, Sr. married Mary Little Thunder about 1847 (Indian Custom). Mary was born about 1822. Her father was Chief Little Thunder and mother unknown. She died June 30, 1894 and Antoine Sr. Died May 10, 1905. Both are buried at Timber Lake, SD. (Mary had a daughter when she was married to Makes Mouth. ) Mary Makes Mouth LeBeau was born about 1840. She married 1st Lee Wickam, 2nd D. K. How about 1876)

Antoine Sr. and Mary Little Thunder had five sons:
John baptiste LeBeau B. abt. 1850 D. Sept 15, 1925
Antoine LeBeau, Jr. B. abt. 1854 D. Mar. 29, 1919
Peter LeBeau B. abt 1856 D. April 18, 1919
Alex LeBeau B. abt. 1859 D. June 14, 1936
Henry LeBeau B. abt. 1863 D. Nov. 28, 1921

John Baptiste LeBeau married Julia Roy (Father: Frank Roy of Sisseton/ Mother: Red Curley Hair A Cheyenne River Sioux)
She died Nov 9, 1944. John and Julia are both buried in LaPlant, SD. They had 10 children:
Moses, b. about 1874
Edward ,b. about 1878
Amy LeBeau, b. about 1880
Annie, b. about 1884
John, died at 2
John, b. about 1888
Albert, b. about Feb. 21, 1891
Peter, died at 2
Patrick, b. 1895
Paul, b. Jan 1, 1897 d. 1969 Rose Libby Leith
They had no children/
Paul married 2nd. Barbara Massett. She was white. Barbara was born in 1915 and died Dec. 5, 1993 and is buried at Philip, SD
Barbara's father: Jacob Massett, Mother: Barbars Schneider
Paul and Barbara has two sons"
Gilbert P. LeBeau, B. April 21, 1945
Donald J. LeBeau, B. Oct, 3, 1946 and D. Oct. 7, 1978 (age 32)

Is Gilbert P. your father? I hope all this helps. If it does I can send more about Antoine. He was quite well known in his life time and in that area of Cheyenne River.

Paul LeBeau married 1st