Hapistinna?

[whiteowl73]

Hello, I was hoping someone could tell me what Hapistinna means, I was told it meant eldest daughter but doesn't Winona mean eldest daughter? I also wanted to know if anyone has any information on Mary Hapistinna on the 1889 census. She is #27 in the Redwood Settlement. I think that she may be my great, great grandmother. I don't believe Hapistinna is a last name. My g,g,grandmother's name is Martha Stone (Hapstin). If this is her why would she use a different name?
Please help WO73

[hermin1]

here is what I was told about the naming process for these people:
they were ususally given two names:
the first denoted their position, by birth order, in the family by birth(ie. winona means 1st born,etc.)
the second was a descriptive name for the person(ie. some characteristic about him/her, or
something they did).
your problem is that you have to place your ancestor there in Minnesota at the time of the census, and with that same first name , besides her English name. If you can't do that,you're up that famous creek without a paddle.

[hermin1]

yes, Winona is the first child , if a daughter, Hepan is second daughter, Hapstin is third daughter. i don't remember what the word is for fourth daughter.

[whiteowl73]

Thank You hermin1. I was told that if Mary Hapistinnna was a widow (which it states on the 1889 census) that there would be a probate record. Would you know where I could look for that? One more question, I have tried to find out about Martha Stone I was even told that her last name could have been Bluestone.

[linda]

Hi,
I found Andrew Sherman born in Faribault, MN 1849 or 1842.
Parents: Yajo and Hapstinna.
He married Maggie Bouyier she was born 1849 Her mother Naiyowagce (Not sure of spelling)
They had a daughter Marths (she went to Genoa School (she was born in Santee 1882)
Refer: Santee Agency Baptismal Ledger 1843-1904 Pix 133
Linda

[bazilecreekhusker]

Cousin,

I emailed Tahanshi Reuben, he provided the following answer:

MIKE

I don't know other details about this question but Hapistin is the name given the third born in a family if a female. The name Hapistinna has "na" added to it making it diminutive. In other words, little Hapistin. That is often added to names when the child is very young. It is dropped as the person becomes older. Hapan (second born if a female) then can become Hapanna.

Conversely "dan" is added to a male's name to show the same thing. e.g., Caske' becomes Caske'dan. Caske' is the name given to first born if a male.

Traditionally these prescribed Dakota names are temporary until the individual receives a permanent name.

You can pass this on to whomever asked the question, "Why would she use a different name?" It's possible that the Mary Hapistinna on the list was young and the diminutive ending was dropped as she became an adult.

This got me on a tangent as I tried to remember all the prescribed Dakota names and came up with the following:

Females
First Born: Winona or Wenona
2nd Born: Hapan
3rd Born: Hapistin
4th Born: ?
5th Born: ?

Males
First Born: Caske'
2nd Born: Hepan
3rd Born: Hepi
4th Born: ?
5th Born: Hake

Reuben

[matoakicita]

from the being dakota - amos one road
Male
chaske - first born
Hepanna - second
Hepina - third
Catanna - fourth
Hake or Hakedan - fifth

Female

Winona - first born
Hapanna - second
Hapstinna - third
Wanske - fourth
Wihake - fifth

this is from the book Being Dakota by one road & Skinner