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Post by ajay1967 on Jun 13, 2006 22:27:17 GMT -5
Just wondering if anyone has happened to run across this name or if anyone would be so kind to translate it for me, what i do know is date of death is august 3 , 1893 crow creek and do have some sons and daughters names as Yellowback , son, Blue Lodge , daughter Forehead , son White Man , son Brown Stone , Single Arrow , Red Cloud Woman also children of OTAKOYAKEWIN, thanks for the help........................  |
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Post by hermin1 on Jun 14, 2006 23:24:54 GMT -5
I am not an expert, but here is my attempt at thename translation: ota: grey or many
koyaka-clothing,
win: woman
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Post by ajay1967 on Jun 15, 2006 13:03:11 GMT -5
Thanks Hermin, have u seen this person in any documents? I tell u if anyone up for a good challenge this is one that has me baffled cuz i cant find her in any census , rolls, of anywhere else other then a few probate testimonies i have....... thanks again
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Post by hermin1 on Jun 15, 2006 19:05:36 GMT -5
To tell you the truth , I haven't run across her name anywhere.
but if you know her children's english names9which you posted), you maybe able to find something on her through them, including her English name and who she was married to.
I did find that her daughter Red Cloud Woman aka Mahpiyadutawin, was the second spouse of George W. Redcloud. They did not have any children though.
She was also the spouse of Tamazakan aka Hisgun, and they had a son John M. Bill born 1854 Redwood Falls, MN; baptized 1863 at Mendota by Bishop Whipple. Tamazakan was also the husband of Julia Oldman and they had a son Tohocokaduta. He married Tatiopawastewin(Sophia Shaker) and they had a daughter Ellen, wife of Rev. John C. Tuttle.
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Post by arduinna on Jun 15, 2006 20:36:35 GMT -5
This is what I found on the internet. To retrieve Federal Land Records, you might have to go to the County office of Buffalo Co. yourself and search the documents there. Those records usually show family connections, and a plan where the land was located. arduinna ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/sd/buffalo/land/buff-lo.txtSDGENWEB File -- Buffalo Co. SD -- Federal Land Records -- Names ...... 05 107 N 070 W 010 39.65 017 251101 PA 362 05/08/1901 OTAKOYAKEWIN 05 107 N ... 40 017 253400 PA IA 238 12/12/1895 OTAKOYAKEWIN 05 107 N 070 W 007 29.15 ... |
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Post by wazi on Jun 18, 2006 8:39:42 GMT -5
To tell you the truth , I haven't run across her name anywhere. but if you know her children's english names9which you posted), you maybe able to find something on her through them, including her English name and who she was married to. I did find that her daughter Red Cloud Woman aka Mahpiyadutawin, was the second spouse of George W. Redcloud. They did not have any children though. She was also the spouse of Tamazakan aka Hisgun, and they had a son John M. Bill born 1854 Redwood Falls, MN; baptized 1863 at Mendota by Bishop Whipple. Tamazakan was also the husband of Julia Oldman and they had a son Tohocokaduta. He married Tatiopawastewin(Sophia Shaker) and they had a daughter Ellen, wife of Rev. John C. Tuttle. Hermin, I do not think it is the same Tamazakan....my records state that Tamazakan died in 1846. Also I have yet to find proof that my Tatiyopawaste is Sophia Shaker. I have seen her probate and it does not list Ellen Stone as her child. Nor does it list Alice Minnetonka, Charles Minnetonka, or Wakanhditanka Ben as her siblings. I have been looking for more information on John Bill to see if it is the same Tamazakan, however have found nothing. wazi |
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Post by mona on Jun 18, 2006 9:02:52 GMT -5
you can write a request to the BIA, Crow Creek Agency and ask for yellowback's probate if that is your ancestor. otakoyakewin might mean wearsmanywoman, my dad said.
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Post by vmarier on Jun 19, 2006 0:30:56 GMT -5
Re: Otakoyakewin
Is anyone else having problems getting probate files from the B.I.A. agencies? Sisseton Agency told me they were closed until July and then they weren't doing anymore genealogical research. They sent me to the Land Title Records at the Aberdeen Area Office but after I made a request I still haven't heard from them. But did you read on the BLM database
they said:
South Dakota Land Patents Database
The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) inherited the functions of the
General Land Office when it was established by Congress in 1946. The
South Dakota Land Patents Database, derived from General Land Office and
BLM information, contains deeds (primarily patents) issued by the United
States in the region now known as the State of South Dakota between 1859
and 1995. While BLM has been referred to as "the Nations record keeper",
it is the National Archives that actually keeps the files. The BLM,
maintains diagrammatic plats known as Master Title Plats, which depict
lands which are owned by the United States and lands which are patented.
However, these plats do not have any information about who the lands were
patented to. That information which has only been available after tedious
research, it is available now in this database.
The South Dakota Land Patents Database contains the following information for
each land transaction: date, location (township, range, section, meridian),
name of person the land was patented to, case type, conveyance type, county,
and the patent document identification number.
Using this information you can obtain copies of the patent file for $10 from
the National Archives at the following address:
Reference Branch (Lands)
National Archives
Washington, DC 20408
(202) 501-5428
You need to submit your request on a copy of Form 84. To get the form, send
an e-mail message to
inquire@nara.gov
In the body of the message, be sure to ask for Form 84 "Order for Copies of
Land Entry Files", tell them how many copies you want (get at least 2, in case
you make a mistake) and give your name and snail address so they can send you
the forms.
(Or you can send a snail mail letter to above address). Sending by e-mail takes
less than a week; by snail mail both ways takes about 2 weeks.
So I sent for a form 84 and we'll see what happens. I have a great grandfather that has a name that four other men had in the late 1880's and I'm still trying to sort out who is who...or whom? vmarier
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Post by hermin1 on Jun 19, 2006 1:02:59 GMT -5
wazi: I have an affidavit that states-in part- that "Tatiopawastewin was the sister of alice Stone deceased, who died prior to the year 1897, leaving as her sole heirs Ellen Tuttle,daughter, aged5?years, residence at Santee Nebraska." This afidavit was was attested to and signed by Frank H. Young and B.J. Young, and in reference to Alice Stone or Tawiyaka who died on the 30th of September 1910 at the age of Eighty years.
You are right, she did not marry Tamazakan, I really goofed , nor was she themother of William Bill.
thedocuments I have on the Freniers say that Josephine Frenier, daughter of Xavier Frenier (son of mary Frenier and Sake)was married to Moses Tamazakan(Hisgun) and they had a son
Asa or Esau Tamazakan.
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