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Post by linda on Jan 7, 2006 9:59:37 GMT -5
Is there any information out there about Mary Hoffman married name St. Clair? She is listed on the 1886 cenus.
She is my daughters gggrandmother. but I am not sure how to help her with this.
I don't know what Mary Hoffman St Clair's husbands name was or any of that.
Thanks,
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Post by buckskin on Jan 7, 2006 10:04:29 GMT -5
I believe that it is Charles and just so you know I have heard there are 3 Mary Hoffman.
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Post by dawn on Jan 7, 2006 14:27:06 GMT -5
I have a listing for a Charles St Clair child of Wista, father was a whiteman. He married a Mary, no listing of her last name. They had the following children Stephen, Joseph,Annie, Carrie, Charles, Norris, Stella and Clifford.
Hope this helps.
Dawn
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Post by linda on Jan 8, 2006 9:18:21 GMT -5
Thanks Jackie
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Post by linda on Jan 8, 2006 9:19:28 GMT -5
Thanks Dawn
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Post by windeagle on Jan 16, 2006 3:51:18 GMT -5
This question is for Buckskin, The 3 Mary Hoffmans. One was Mary Hoffman/ St. Clair, the other was Mary Hoffman/Chapman.. Could you please tell us some information on the third?
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Post by buckskin on Jan 16, 2006 16:16:24 GMT -5
that I am not sure about. sorry  |
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Post by duke on Jan 16, 2006 21:48:40 GMT -5
Is there any information out there about Mary Hoffman married name St. Clair? She is listed on the 1886 cenus. She is my daughters gggrandmother. but I am not sure how to help her with this. I don't know what Mary Hoffman St Clair's husbands name was or any of that. Thanks, The Mary Hoffman you are referring to is not on the 1886 census. Mother- Emma ? (perhaps Young, later Redowl married to George Dowanna Redowl) Father- Charles Wheeler Hoffman (white) b. 1846 in Niles, MI Mary was born in 1864 at Crow Creek, baptised in 1867 at Santee. She married Charles St. Clair, had the children than Dawn listed earlier, then later married a Mitchell some time after Charles died in 1907. She died in 1940 and is buried at Howe Creek Cemetery, Knox Co. NE. Buried nearby is her grandmother (Emma's mother) Jane Wicacaka 1813-1889. I'm sorry that there's no connection here. |
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Post by kunsi10 on Jan 17, 2006 11:49:23 GMT -5
Emma is a real murstery to us. We know that her mother is Jane Wicacaka, but who her father is, is not quite clear. Benjamin Young is listed as her father on her marriage certificate to Henry Jones (12/23/1912). However, the Benjamin Young (mixed breed) we found is married to another lady with a number of children....does anyone have any conclusive information regarding Emma's father?
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Post by dawn on Feb 27, 2006 21:53:45 GMT -5
I have a page from a listing of families it lists a (Hoffman,Mary Married Charles StClair March 1891. Above the Hoffman Brown Nec is written in. It lists here with her Grandmother Wicacaka. She is listed to have died June 24 1890.
Dawn
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Post by hermin1 on Feb 28, 2006 2:00:22 GMT -5
:Pi found a 1920 US Census for an Emma R. Redowl-Widow:
It lists her as born in Minn. and so were her parents. the census also lists :
son- John age33
his wife-Sarah V. Age 26
Vera D. grandchild age 2 4/12
Arthur E. grandchild age 11 /12
Jane P. Redowl-cousin Age 73
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I also have Emma Redowl married to Charles Hoffman and that they had a dau. Mary H. St. Clair w/o Charles St. Clair. I also have Emma Redowl as married to George Redowl.
Emma was born @1850 in Minn. and died 30 may, 1928 Knox ,NE
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Post by hermin1 on Feb 28, 2006 2:24:15 GMT -5
buckskin: you stated that you had heard that there were 3 Mary Hoffmans. I don't put a lot of stock in hearsay. i would suggest that you go back to the source of this claim and get his/her basis for saying this. Until thenm, I am not gonna waste my time searching for someone that may or may not have existed.
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Post by kunsi10 on Mar 1, 2006 13:45:01 GMT -5
hermin1...you mentioned Emma's parent born in MN, do you have their names and dates of birth/burial?
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 1, 2006 18:07:38 GMT -5
kunsi, the census I posted above, does not mention who Emma's parents were. On her card file that I have in my index I have Emma Redowl aka Anpetiomaniwin(sp),
parents: father N/A, mother Wicaca.
Of interest is that her late husband, George Dowana Redowl was buried in St. Cornelia's Bishop Whipple Mission Cemetery, Morton,MN.
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 2, 2006 3:13:58 GMT -5
I believe that one of the Dumarce children listed with Margaret Dumarce-Prescott the widow of Louis Dumarce-Prescott, may have been Mary or Margaret and married a Hoffman, and they lived at Santee. One of their sons, first name Clifford died in a car accident @1930 or 1940 and was buried in North Dakota.
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Post by fwaukazoo on Apr 3, 2006 9:34:31 GMT -5
hermin1, dawn, duke, and kunsi9 The census for the 1885 Indian Roll, for Santee-Sioux Reservation lists Nancy Anpahdiwin as grandmother under Charles St. Clair (Tacantewastedan). Santee-Sioux Reservation, Neb. 1885 Indian Roll ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/_na/1885-1930/ne/santee-sioux/390 . . . . . . . 391 296 Tacantewastedan Charles St. Clair man m 20 392 297 Anpahdiwin Nancy . grandmother f 54 393 . . . . . . . Do you have any information on Charles St. Clair, or the Minnesoate St. Clair. Reason why some of us don't have this information about our families, my grandparent's (Blacksmith/Prue) house burned down, a long time a go and lots of records and photos were lost. All we have now are stories. fwaukazoo |
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Post by kunsi10 on Apr 3, 2006 9:55:49 GMT -5
hermin1 Above you mentioned a 1920 US Census of Emma RedOwl's...on that is a cousin "Jane Hoffman, age 73"....would you happen to have Jane's Indian name and any children by her, particularly a child by the name of Mary (Tiskiskatewin)?
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Post by hermin1 on Apr 3, 2006 13:18:00 GMT -5
kunsi: it is funny you should mention her. I found an 1880 US Census for MOOdy,Dakota Terr. for Samuel Hoffman.
It lists Jane Hoffman as head of the family, age 46, born Minn., paarents born Wisconsin.
it also lists:
David Hoffman Age 30-son born Wisconsin
Samuel Hoffman Age 20 born Minnesota, and Parents born Wisconsin
Delena Thompson Age 70 Mother born Minnesota, Parents born Minnesota.
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the 1902 Santee Register indian Families lists Samuel at Age 51
parents: Tatetawa and Papeskohawin(sp) both dead
His sister Jane Primeaux aka Asdahewin
Lucy primeaux niece
Mary Webster Niece
Josephine webster niece
and Sarah Webster aka Wakankana.
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the 1884 Census for Santee lists the above personsin Samuel's household.
the 1900 Census lists Samuel Hoffman,Uncle living with his brother Eugene Hoffman and family in Hill Twp,Knox NE.
I hope this helps you.
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Post by kunsi10 on Apr 3, 2006 14:08:56 GMT -5
Yup, that's a great help....thanks alot!
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