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Post by tamara on Jul 29, 2006 12:17:16 GMT -5
I promise to make sure that I from here on do my utmost to qualify my posts with source information and will not perpetuate "kayapi" or gossip!! LOL
Tamara
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 29, 2006 19:56:08 GMT -5
Tamara I think what you saw or heard is a nother red herring, because that is what it appears to be at this time, was not confirmed by my cousin who checked the other web site,"The 1886 Antisocial Mdewakanton board".There wasn't anything mentioned about the US Attorney agreeing to anything. The judge will not make any ruling(s) until all the issues have been argued in court and he set Aug 8 for that hearing to hear the res
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Post by tamara on Jul 29, 2006 21:16:30 GMT -5
ya know, I think you are right... I'm going to edit my post. LOL
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Post by tamara on Jul 29, 2006 21:31:04 GMT -5
I promise to make sure that I from here on do my utmost to qualify my posts with source information and will not perpetuate "kayapi" or gossip!! LOL Tamara There! Just the facts, and always post one's source of information. I have been reading up on genealogy proof standards and they certainly stress that you MUST be able to verify your source and that anyone viewing your research must be able to clearly find such source and reach the same conclusion as you do in order for your information to be considered substantial and valuable. I must not be as old as I think I am because you would think that someone of my years would well know that by now!!! Tamara
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Post by highashell on Jul 29, 2006 22:09:13 GMT -5
i was just on the "1886 mdewakanton board" and carl did make a good point.. even if the judge says we can use other documents the judge cant force erick to take us as clients or make barb offer her expertise in certifying our documents
our attorneys will have to do their work and we will need to get our own genologists and we will have have to wait our turn after they are done since kaardal is focusing on just the statute and that could be after 2007
can we wait that long?
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Post by tamara on Jul 29, 2006 23:20:05 GMT -5
It doubt that anyone was hoping that Mr Kaardal would be forced to take the intervenors as clients. And I hardly think anyone would want Dr Buttes to be the person to certify their documents. I would imagine that it would make more sense to have someone impartial. It would also seem reasonable that the court will decide what methods and whom would be used to actually certify the decided beneficiaries. Only the Kaardal clients are currently parties to the lawsuit according to the court, but that does not mean that they are determined to be beneficiaries as of yet. It isnt likely that the court would accept Dr Buttes certification alone, just as they wouldnt accept any genealogist the intervenors were to hire with out imposing some sort of certifying process of their own. I dont think anyone with a decent amount of reasoning powers thinks there wont be a waiting process.
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Post by hyland on Jul 30, 2006 11:33:48 GMT -5
fancy1, if you do not like what is said on the other forum, why would you even go there? That goes for everyone else. It seems that some feed off of what is said there and then comes back here and posts. Which then starts negativity here. It's almost like being a tattle tale. ex: Mommy joey hit me. Please lets keep this forum they way it is suppose to be. Helping others find their roots and informing others of information on the law suite. Thanks, hyland Hyland - I am really sorry if the fact that I posted a warning on this board offended you or anyone else. My intent was not to be a "tattle tale". My intent was to hopefully spare others the frustration of having CLeith modify their posts to read how HE WANTS THEM TO READ.... not what the poster actually posted. In any case, the matter is being dealt with. fancy1 I guess I don't see the point why ppl would visit the 1886 forum. It seems that the ppl who do, come back here and bring negativity to this board and post things like no one is giving facts about anything related to the case. If it is felt that there are no truths spoken there then why even post it here? If you see something that you or anyone thinks that is negative. Why feed fuel to the fire? Why even post anything there knowing that there are some who will throw words at you or anyone else to get you all upset and then you respond and back and forth. Why waste your time and energy? Please read my words with a kind/caring heart as that is how I wrote them.
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Post by tamara on Jul 30, 2006 11:46:46 GMT -5
... kinda obvious that some felt the drug user commenting needed correcting and that is all... simple. As for the dont go over there, post negative here, etc... has all been stated repeatedly, "beating a dead horse" springs to mind.... people will do what they want. the negative remarks about others wherever they might be, wont be allowed here and that is all that matters. ... -I'm the only dummy responding to this arent I? LOL! ... geez, I guess age doesnt mean wisdom! I'm moving on...
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Post by redbrother on Jul 30, 2006 11:50:27 GMT -5
I read all that as well.... pretty bad and cant believe what was cited by Kaardal as a means to inform the public has deteriorated to that level. I think the Crackhead thing was uncalled for, stick to the issues. ... and I am going to resist all urges to refer to those two who speak in such a manner as 1886 Lunar Descendants and CLeith as the Itanca of the Pluto Oyate... Is it just me or is this too out of hand? This is the type of thing that made my aunt feel as though she didnt want to be a part this. I, however know, that it is reflective of only a few and certainly not Mr Kaardal or many others. Fancy, I dont think you had a choice but to respond to that and set the facts straight, who knows what some would have thought had you not. Try 'propaganda'! Whoever this person is, you folks are giving him/her/outsider a lot of power here, by 'paying attention' to it. If this is a matter of information that is being given, falsly, and can actually be used to 'hurt' someone, then it should be dealt with in a legal manner. I think keeping such stuff off of this board is important. This person sounds like he/she/outsider has the power to do 'anything' they want to, including coming here, under a.k.a. (?) and giving false impressions. I would like to see this board stay clean of this 'junk' if I may. This board is used for exchanging potential information, to help people find they're lineage, first and foremost, maybe give good advice and maybe even some humor, in getting to know one another a little better. Unfortunately, because of things like this, you are right about one thing. Be careful of what information you give out to anyone, unless you know for a fact that someone is related to you and you know you both can trust each other to talk on a more personal level, if you even want to. I don't like to be 'paranoid'. I think of myself being more 'cautious' on things, when it ocmes to the internet. Sorry if I offended anyone, but I think this needs to be said.
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Post by wazi on Jul 30, 2006 12:28:19 GMT -5
I strongly agree with Redbrother...we have hashed this out over and over again. The reason people come here is because of the feel good energy that exist at this site. It is a shame if we are going to resort to name calling and hating on each other. If this continues here I will more than likely move on, because I do not want to be a part of something that is fueled by fear, hate and anger. I wish all of you health, love and joy and hope that we all can put away this negativity and get back to what this board was created for RESEARCH.
Pilamiya ye,
wazi
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Post by tamara on Jul 30, 2006 14:27:32 GMT -5
I feel the same way and apologize for my addition to the name calling and fueling the fire in this thread. I admit I was compelled to defend a person that had shown great consideration for my family and wish I had chose my words more carefully. That said, I also refer to Jackie's post wisely noting the human factor that is unavoidable. Although unpleasant at times it is a part of life and you take the good with the bad often. Personally I dont think the negetivity here is anywhere near overwhelming, just old and boring, and now a little unclear as well. So to speak out against negative remarks, or apologize as in my case, might be considered negative as well?? LOL... I am so moving on.. this time for real... HEY LOOK! over at Sioux Scouts Thread! Someone posted the Orphan list!!!!! Lets all go over there!!!
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Post by tamara on Jul 30, 2006 14:30:09 GMT -5
aww... I thought this would be a good place to post the picture of the pup that is adding years to my life, but there is not spot to do this or am I not seeing it?
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 30, 2006 17:27:36 GMT -5
Now Tamara, you are only as old as you feel. and theway you have been helping out here, you still have a lot of spring in you , like a spring chicken. We are human, although I wonder about some people I know. ha ha ha
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Post by redbrother on Jul 30, 2006 17:43:09 GMT -5
We recently lost a friend who was 96 years old. He used to tell me 'I got news for you'! And I'd say 'what's that'? And he'd say 'never get old'! He was a great guy. He told me once, that he wished he was 70 or 80 years old again. Can you imagine something like that? I thought that was a great perspective on age!
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Post by tamara on Jul 30, 2006 18:15:11 GMT -5
"spring chicken" reminds me of my small children who are learning so many words from my grandmother. she teaches them things but they use them combined in their own way. example "Sica Ina" is the standard response when I ask them to tell someone what grandma is teaching them in Dakota... anyway the latest is to call each other "Anapohotanna Tanka" or big chicken!! ...kids
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Post by tamara on Jul 30, 2006 18:25:46 GMT -5
Redbrother I call my grandmother everyday when I am home and each time i ask her "how are you?" and one day she replied "Alive!" to which I replied "Good, otherwise I would be scared!" -she said "then I would answer the phone "Geech chee (sp incorrect) speaking!!" I said "or you could say, Hello, Wanagi's"! She said "Whatever.." lol
Anyone exactly what Gee chee means and how it is spelled? I cant find it in my Riggs Dictionary! lol
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 30, 2006 23:49:15 GMT -5
My dad had trouble with some English words, and when ever someone would call he would answer Kounas Regiments(residence).of course since there wwere 13 of uus little ones, he would have been right. ha haha
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Post by tamara on Jul 31, 2006 1:08:08 GMT -5
"Regiments" I like that. I have my own little regiment... but somehow "Mutiny" comes to mind.
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Post by hyland on Jul 31, 2006 7:29:46 GMT -5
Hermin, What language it that? That is a cute story thanks for sharing. It is Greek. My dad had trouble with some English words, and when ever someone would call he would answer Kounas Regiments(residence).of course since there wwere 13 of uus little ones, he would have been right. ha haha
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Post by santee1961 on Jul 31, 2006 16:24:27 GMT -5
I have a friend who is Greek and she said growing up was like the movie "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" but without the Windex. When I was in Rochester at the Clinic we went to the Greek Orthodox Church and then I went back there for an iconography class. The older Greek ladies there were about like in the movie. The artist who was teaching the workshop was Bulgarian (a communist nation when he was growing up) and he wrote (like the painting of it) his icon of Mary and Christ to include an earring on Mary. That created a great deal of conversation by two of the eldest lady members as they did not think it was appropriate to have a pearl earring on Mary, the mother of Christ!!!! Keep in mind our teacher only spoke Bulgarian and Spanish and his interpreter was his Argentinian wife who spoke Spanish, Italian, English but no Bulgarian. The church ladies spoke Greek mixed in with english and there were several gestures involved in conversations. It really was hilarious and slightly chaotic and the two church ladies left happy and satisfied because we all took the pearl earring out of our icon. During the workshop it had been a very busy week with the church and we had church members everyday and they were also cooking massive quantities of awesome food. The 10 hr. drive home seemed so quiet and boring with just my husband and I but it was the most interesting workshop I ever attended. Most of the members were of Mediterranian descent and they were very lively and so fun. Sometimes it was interesting to understand what some of the older ones were saying because as Hermin said they would mispronounce some words slightly and it took a minute to figure out what they really meant.
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