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Post by debbie on Sept 5, 2005 14:27:54 GMT -5
Hello All, I'm at my wits end here, as probably alot of you are. I've come to a stand still in my search so I'm reaching out here. I have alot of names I can't find english names for.
I’m gonna type all the names I’m looking for and then below that, I will type the names and the child in John’s line. I will put the number at the end of each name to show the connection in the list below.
Hoksioduta…………#1 Tasinawin………….#1 Mahpiyahezewin..…#2 Huntkatanka………..#3 Miniyasnasnawin…..#3 Hinhanduta…………#6 Tatehuihdewin……...#6 Aupetuiyatkewin…….#4 Wamdiwanyakapi……#5 Winyanwaste…………#5 Sbuwin or S’bewin…...#7 Wospimaniwin………..#8
The name that I am searching for the most is Sbuwin or S’bewin. I have all the documents to support this line up to her. I am in need of her english name but any help on any of these names would be awesome!! Here is the list of parents and their child in John’s line.
1. Hoksioduta - Tasinawin......parents of Daniel Weston(Kinyahiyaye) 2. Alexander Culbertson - Mapiyahezewin(maybe Mary Chapman)...parents of Julia Culbertson(Tateaihdakewin) 3. Huntkatanka - Miniyasnasnawin....parents of John K. Henry(Kawinge) 4. Johnson RedOwl(Aupetuwaste) - Aupetuiyotkewin.....parents of Lucy RedOwl 5. Wamdiwanyakapi - Winyanwaste(1st name maybe Nancy).....parents of James Hemans(Tomdoza) 6. Hinhanduta - Tatehuihdewin......parents of Johnson RedOwl maybe Rockwood(Aupetuwaste) 7. Joseph Flute(Oyeicasnamani) - Sbuwin or S'bewin.....parents of Louise Tuttle(Piyaiyatkewin) 8. Prosper Armell(winnebago) - Wospimaniwin( Mary?).... parents of Sarah Armell
Thanks for taking a look!! ;D
Debbie Flute
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Post by hermin1 on Sept 5, 2005 15:39:39 GMT -5
Debbie: I will look in my Index and other files and see what Ican find out for you.Do you want me to post it here or send you a private Email?
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Post by debbie on Sept 5, 2005 15:44:32 GMT -5
Either way hermin. It's up to you. Thanks for takin the time!! Debbie
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Post by hermin1 on Sept 5, 2005 19:21:26 GMT -5
Debbie: here is what I have in my index:Mahpiyahezewin aka Mary chapman. 1887 Santee Census shows her listed with spouse James Chapman aka Yusnana(they married 25 Dec. 1878 at Santee),and their children, Mary(she married Joseph Goodteacher),willie, and Nancy. the 1884 lists these same people plus a son,Alex who died at the age of 8 years, and a sister-in-law Oyatewastewin. Johnson Redowl is listed in the 1887 Santee Census with spouse, Sarah Redowl,nee Winona, and their children Lucy, Arthur, Ulysses, and Nancy. I have a Lucy Redowl that married Benjamin Johnson on 5 Nov., 1888 at Santee, and later married Tasso John 5 Sep.,1903 at Santee. I have information on Joseph Flute from the 1884,87 and 1902 Censuses, but no English names for his parents. the same goes for Johnson Redowl's parents. the name S"bewin rings a bell with me. A lady I talked to at the Mormon Center @6 months ago, told me that this S'bewin was related to Iron Elk, and she had a niece named Lucy Blue Eyes. I did find a Susbecatewin(sp) in the 1887 Census and her name was Nancy Brant, but I don't know if this is the same person you are talking about.I do not have any information on the surname Culbertson, Armell, or Weston. I would suggest you see what you can find in the Censuses for Moody County, Flandreau Township, So. Dakota. I will check my other files and see what I can find.
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Post by peacekeeper on Sept 5, 2005 21:33:13 GMT -5
Hermin, That was alot of information you found for Debbie. Nice job. It is always great when someone needs help and there is a helper just waiting to step in and find the information. Thank you.
Jackie
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Post by mdenney on Sept 6, 2005 10:21:23 GMT -5
Yes very good indeed.
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Post by debbie on Sept 6, 2005 11:39:10 GMT -5
Hi Hermin, Seems I have alot of the same info you have. Lucy Redowl was also married to Patrick Henry. They had four children and Winnie Henry was the only surviving child. I have heard that aslo about S'bewin. I heard she was possibly a sister to Ironelk. And that Lucy Blue eyes was her niece. Thanks for looking. You are awesome!! Debbie
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Post by hermin1 on Sept 6, 2005 14:54:17 GMT -5
Dear Debbie: I found a woman named Tiwastenwin(deceased) who was the mother of Amos Paypay. Is this the one you mentioned above? Re. Lucy Henry, yes I also have the information re. her and Patrick Henry, but I do not have the name of the fourth child. I only have Mark Henry, Cora Henry, and Winnie Henry listed as their children in the 1884 Census. Hinhanduta: I think it means red feather. Huntkatanka I think, means big(or large) Cormorant.
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Post by sara on Sept 6, 2005 15:49:32 GMT -5
Hinhan Duta is Red Owl
My sister-in-laws father descends from Hinhanduta.
I have met alot of Red Owls this year. Hope to meet more next year. Sara
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Post by kunsi10 on Sept 6, 2005 15:53:34 GMT -5
HInhanduta is Chief Red Owl...my Great, Great. I'm in the process of moving and all my records are packed. I do have some saved on my computer and will check sometime later. I am in need of information on this line and thankful for your responses.
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Post by kunsi10 on Sept 6, 2005 16:04:01 GMT -5
Here is what I have on the brother of Johnson Red Owl. George Duwanna Red Owl, he is my Great-Grandfather.
Descendants of George (Duwanna) Redowi 1 George (Duwanna) Redowl b: 1848 Minnesota d: Aft. 1918 +Emma (Aupetomaniurin) Young b: 1850 Minnesota d: 30 May 1926 Knox County, NE rn: 1869 Santee, Nebraska 2 Isaac Redowl b: 13 February 1876 Minnesota d: 05 January 1943 3 Victona Redowl b: 1901 Nebraska 3 George Redowl b: 1903 Nebraska 3 Evelyn Viola Redowl b: 06 July 1908 Nebraska d: 10 October 1996+Demis Mark Whipple b: 23 September 1915 d: 13 September 1998 3 Ambrose Redowl b: 18 August 1910 d: February 1979 3 Ike Redowl 3 Katherine Redowl 3 Grace Redowl 3 Mary Redowl b. 10 October, 1919 d. 10 Nov 1995 3 John Redowl 2 Moses Redowl b: November 1883 Nebraska +Mary Alice Redwing m: 20 August 1902 Santee, Nebraska 2 Johnson Redowl b: August 1886 Nebraska +Sarah Victoria Lovejoy b: 03 February 1893 Standing Rock Reservation, ND d: 08 April 1973 Mason City, Cerro Gordo, Iowa 3 Vera Dorine RedOwl b: 19 July 1917 Nebraska d: 27 August 1987 Mason City, Cerro Gordo, Iowa +Edward Armstrong Eagleboy b: 02 April 1918 S. Dakota d: 19 April 1978 Mason City, Cerro Gordo, Iowa 4 Elmer George EagleBoy b: 17 October1953 Mason City, Cerro Gordo, Iowa +April Lea Woodford b: 21 April 1957 Milwaukee,Wisconsin m: 19 July 1976 Columbus, Ohio 5 Sara Ann Eagleboy b: 28 March 1976 Jackson, Mississippi +Christopher James McAllister b: 14 December 1974 Waukesha, Waukesha county, WI 6 Tyler Joseph Eagleboy b: 25 April1995 Waukesha, Waukesha county, WI 5 Adam Ryan Eagleboy b: 29 July 1980 Mason City, Cerro Gordo, Iowa 4 Edward Armstrong Eagle Boy, JR b: 1950 Nebraska +Cynthia Louise Lutcavish 5 Stephanie Rae Eagle Boy b: 24 January 1975 5 Jessica Lindsay Eagle Boy b: 03 November 1977 3 Arthur E. RedOwl b: February 1919 Nebraska 3 George N RedOwI b: Ant. 1922 Nebraska 3 Sidney 0 RedOwl b: Ant. 1924 Nebraska 2 MaryRedowl +? Mitchell
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Post by kunsi10 on Sept 6, 2005 16:14:30 GMT -5
hermin1 or anyone else What other information do you have on Tiwastenwin(deceased) who was the mother of Amos Paypay? Is she the possibly Mary Paypay?
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Post by sara on Sept 6, 2005 16:51:37 GMT -5
My sister in-law's father was Elmer Kenneth Lieb, Evelyn Viola Redowl was Elmers mother. My sister in law lives in Davenport Iowa now. Her dad Elmer died when she was 7 years old. She was raised at Santee by her mothers parents, Arthur Thornton and Florence (Red) Wolf.
My sister in law will be at the next Davenport Dakota Prisoner Memorial to be held May 27th 28th 2006 in Davenport Iowa. Along I am sure with other Red Owl descendants. Sara
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Post by hermin1 on Sept 6, 2005 18:56:20 GMT -5
here is what I have: Amos Paypay age 38 1/2 Blood. Parents: Grant and Tinwastenwin-dead. spouse: Ellen Stone. Married 29 Nov. 1883 at Santee(Santee Mar. Reg.).Children: Levi Paypay, and Elizabeth Paypay. James Paypay aka Mazanahotan. Spouse: Nancy Paypay nee Hemans aka Itegikyewin(Deceased). Married 22 May, 1881 at Santee. Children(ref. 1887 Census): Joseph Hemans-Stepson,Daniel Hemans-Stepson, Mary paypay, Winifred Paypay, and Minnie Paypay(Ref. 1884 Census). George Paypay married Mary Tasinatopawin on 22 August, 1881(ref. Santee Mar. Reg.) that is all I can find.
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Post by debbie on Sept 6, 2005 19:00:19 GMT -5
Hi Hermin, I don't know of this woman...Tiwastenwin. The name I have is Tasinawin. What I do know is on the 1887 Santee roll of families it has... Patrick Henry 33, wife-Lucy Henry 23, son-Mark Henry (deceased) 9, daughter-Cora Henry(deceased) 6, daughter-Winnie Henry 3, son-Daniel Henry(deceased) 1/4.
Debbie
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Post by hermin1 on Sept 6, 2005 19:00:39 GMT -5
kunsi: thank you for sharing this information.
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Post by hermin1 on Sept 6, 2005 19:09:25 GMT -5
Debbie: thanks much for the information re. the children. I will make the correction to my index.
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Post by hermin1 on Sept 7, 2005 0:35:27 GMT -5
sandyh: I have sent that information you requested to your Email.
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Post by hermin1 on Sept 8, 2005 11:36:10 GMT -5
sara: thank you for sharing this information.
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Post by marnie on Sept 19, 2005 22:50:59 GMT -5
I have a Lucy Blue Eyes m:1890 to Henry Trudell in Knox Cty NE> she was born1850 in MN Territory. Henry was b. 1850 MN Territory and d. 1921was the 6th child of Frank and Mary (Iciyapewin) Trudell Children of Lucy and Henry are: Levi Henry Trudell b. August 28, 1891 Knox Cty. NE. d. Sept 1968, Ravinia, Charles Mix, SD Cecilia Trudell b. 1895, Knox cty, NE d. Nov.3, 1955
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