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Post by usofacocoabrwn on Jul 18, 2006 15:16:42 GMT -5
please send me more info on gary montana clients posted message. My e-mail address is, kodaarrow@yahoo.com
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Post by swootz on Jul 18, 2006 16:36:29 GMT -5
Could you please send me info on Gary Montana too. My email is swootz@aol.com
Thanks!
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Post by siouxchic on Jul 18, 2006 18:44:32 GMT -5
can you send me the info too on gary montana. my email is lrjndr@yahoo.com
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Post by bobdu on Jul 18, 2006 23:47:19 GMT -5
i contacted montana and associates several weeks ago. he is requiring $50 upfront per adult and $20 for minors, plus you have to be connected to someone on the 1886, 1889 baseroll or he will not take you in as a client. this was several weeks ago, i don't know if he has changed this or not.
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Post by tamara on Jul 19, 2006 14:35:23 GMT -5
well, per the remarks made by others on the 1886 board the judge has divided the descendants he will consider into two catagories
1 those from the 1886 and 1889 roll
2 those from the other lists presented
the other lists presented to my understanding are
the McLaughlin Rolls 1899 and 1917
the Elrod Roll
the List of Scouts per Samuel Brown papers
The judge is going to consider these lists and it makes sense since he has previously mentioned the 86 and 89 rolls to be a "presumptive starting point".
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Post by tamara on Jul 19, 2006 14:38:57 GMT -5
I understand how he might have began with those on the 86 and 89 census and then realizing that there were other descendants not on those rolls according to Lettow in Dec. I think he has done a great job in a very short period of time to try to help people who without his help would not have a voice for their family and ancestor.
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Post by sara on Jul 19, 2006 15:16:08 GMT -5
So if my mother-in-laws mothers name is on the 1917 MGlaughlin roll then she can be a plantiff? Even though her mother was born and raised and lived at Santee all her life?
If your in law was a descendant of one who was exiled from Minnesota as a resut of the 1862 Uprising, she would be quallified to be on the LD list.
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Post by peacekeeper on Jul 19, 2006 16:20:20 GMT -5
I am really curious. I thought no one could be part of the lawsuit after July 12, 2006. Can you explain to me and all of the other members of the board how Gary was able to take on more clients? I know there are many who were unable to get on and would like to know what they need to do to get a lawyer at this late date. Thank you Fancy.
Jackie
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Post by derockbraine1 on Jul 19, 2006 20:36:07 GMT -5
Hi, I attended the Gary Montana meeting in Pierre on July 1. It was an excellent meeting, there are 4 points (Judge Lettow's) that you must pass before Gary will take you as a client. And yes, he is asking to use other census, 1863, 1887,1888,1889, and 1890, plus the scout lists. The 4 areas are 1. you must be Mdewakanton (descendant) 2. You must be loyal, which Gary stated that could not be proved. He stated that Meyers book stated that there were only 3 Indians not involved in the uprising, Otherday and two half-breeds. 3. You have to been living in Minnesota or transitioning to Minnesota. 4. You have to sever tribal relations, in which Gary stated that was redundant, as no one will ever do that. Oh yes, he is also going to request to use the McLaughlin rolls. And if you were rejected by M&K he plans to ask for your paperwork back because they will inform the court that they already disqualified you. Email me if you have further questions, if you email Gary he will reply to your email quickly. He is very knowledgable about Indian Law. derockbraine1
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Post by peacekeeper on Jul 19, 2006 21:37:49 GMT -5
The one thing that I remember about M&K is that when we left the law firm I faxed a request asking for our documents back. That was 6 months ago. They did not send anything back to me or my family.
Jackie
I would askwhy your new attorney didn't request the they return your records or at lest transfer them to her.
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Post by whiteowl73 on Jul 19, 2006 23:40:29 GMT -5
Hey derockbraine1,
What is your e-mail address?
WO73
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Post by runningwind on Jul 20, 2006 23:44:35 GMT -5
Please send me info how to get in touch with Montana & Associates! Thanks! Just received word that Montana & Associates (Gary Montana, Esq.) is taking on new clients until July 25. For further information contact fancy at fancy1_2_1@yahoo.com. |
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Post by tamara on Jul 21, 2006 1:45:35 GMT -5
Please send me info how to get in touch with Montana & Associates! Thanks! Just received word that Montana & Associates (Gary Montana, Esq.) is taking on new clients until July 25. For further information contact fancy at fancy1_2_1@yahoo.com. Email me at TTordsen@aol.com and I can get you the information you need. Tamara |
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 30, 2006 23:40:53 GMT -5
Maybe Mr. Montana can enlighten us on where this 1863 Mdewakanton Census -if it exists-may be obtained.
I got the impression from others' recollections of the hearing that the judge may want the other attorneys(Interveners) to join together into one group.
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Post by tamara on Jul 31, 2006 10:29:45 GMT -5
The 1863 Census he is talking about is the Indian Camp Census done at Ft Snelling. I dont know of any other, and if there was one, you, of all people, would have found it and had it logged in your note cards long ago!
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 31, 2006 17:19:25 GMT -5
this is the only information I have, in addition to the Indians interned at fort Snelling itself, there was another camp near the fort which consisted of about fifteen to twenty lodges.I believe this may have been the Scout Camp. beginning in February of 1863, the sixty or so Dakotaas andmixed-bloods were in North Dakota working for sibley. Their families left the fort in early June,1863 and traveled the sixty miles south to Faribault and settled on alex. Faribaults land. Ref: Old Betsey The life andtimes of a famous Dakota Woman and her Family. Mark Diedrich 1995 page 71.
I also have this: In August of 1863, wives and children of the Dakota scouts returned to the the Fort( apparently the author is referring to Fort Snelling). They had been sent from the stockade at Ft. Snelling to Camp Pope, then to Fort Ridgely and then back to Fort Snelling from Fort Ridgely. The Dakota Sioux Internment At Fort Snelling 1862-1864. page 111
I have not found any reference which mentions a census done in the camp mentioned by Diedrich, those interned at Fort snelling prior to their leaving in 1863 for Crow Creek, or the camp mentioned in the second reference,for 1863.
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Post by redbrother on Jul 31, 2006 20:04:02 GMT -5
Maybe Mr. Montana can enlighten us on where this 1863 Mdewakanton Census -if it exists-may be obtained. I got the impression from others' recollections of the hearing that the judge may want the other attorneys(Interveners) to join together into one group. According to the 'two' handwritten transcripts of the proceedings of the last appearance in Washington (that were posted here), the Judge 'did' say he would like it if all the lawyers got together and put one case together, that it would be much easier to acknowledge. Not so much in those words, but that is exatly the way I took it. I think it is going to have' to be a group thing, always thought so, and it looks as if the Judge is going to make that effort, so I think it's safe to say that we are 'partially' back. We all just have to keep on searching for as much information, on our lineages, as we can, to make our own cases as solid as possible. If this is the way things are going to go, I think it makes a lot more sense and gives everyone an opportunity, so don't waste any time, or whatever time and resourses you can find. LOL!!! |
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Post by tamara on Jul 31, 2006 21:11:06 GMT -5
Maybe Mr. Montana can enlighten us on where this 1863 Mdewakanton Census -if it exists-may be obtained. I got the impression from others' recollections of the hearing that the judge may want the other attorneys(Interveners) to join together into one group. According to the 'two' handwritten transcripts of the proceedings of the last appearance in Washington (that were posted here), the Judge 'did' say he would like it if all the lawyers got together and put one case together, that it would be much easier to acknowledge. Not so much in those words, but that is exatly the way I took it. I think it is going to have' to be a group thing, always thought so, and it looks as if the Judge is going to make that effort, so I think it's safe to say that we are 'partially' back. We all just have to keep on searching for as much information, on our lineages, as we can, to make our own cases as solid as possible. If this is the way things are going to go, I think it makes a lot more sense and gives everyone an opportunity, so don't waste any time, or whatever time and resourses you can find. LOL!!! That is what I was thinking as well. I am wanting to know what drawbacks there would be to this if any. What reasons an attorney might have to not, I cant imagine. |
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Post by gcochran on Aug 1, 2006 0:02:13 GMT -5
Could you please e-mail me information on Gary Montana also?
My e-mail address is: cochran_gary@Yahoo.com
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Post by hermin1 on Aug 1, 2006 0:24:02 GMT -5
his may be a rumor, but I was told by someone at Nat. Fam. Res. Ctr, this afternoon, that the judge was holding aconfeence call with the other attorneys today. Does anyone know anything, have you heard anything about this?
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