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Post by richbrown69 on Jul 14, 2015 19:55:06 GMT -5
My great grandfather was Clarence Edward Brown. He passed away in 1950 in Hannibal Missouri. He was born to Stephen and Mary Brown in Alexander Missouri. I am trying to find out any information about them, their parents, and where my family came from. If anyone could shed some light for me I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 22, 2015 16:20:57 GMT -5
what was his tribal affiliation?
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Post by richbrown69 on Sept 24, 2015 19:51:53 GMT -5
I have no idea. All I really know is that he passed away in Hannibal Missouri in 1950. His death certificate says his father was Stephen Brown and he was born in Alexander Missouri.
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Post by richbrown69 on Sept 24, 2015 19:52:59 GMT -5
I have no idea. All I really know is that he passed away in Hannibal Missouri in 1950. His death certificate says his father was Stephen Brown and he was born in Alexander Missouri.
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Post by hermin1 on Oct 2, 2015 13:11:09 GMT -5
richbrown69, please provide the following additional information from the death certificate: Age at death,and burial information(which cemetery is he buried in).
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Post by richbrown69 on Oct 3, 2015 18:44:29 GMT -5
Clarence Edward Brown Born 14 Feb 1889 Died 8 Mar 1950 Buried at Mt. Olive cemetery in Hannibal Missouri.
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Post by hermin1 on Oct 4, 2015 8:02:30 GMT -5
thanks for the info. there is no Alexander,MO, but there is Alexandria,MO, which is in C Clark County. do you know if he was native American? if he wasn't then ,I am sorry, we can not help you.
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Post by richbrown69 on Oct 4, 2015 10:31:05 GMT -5
Yes he was
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Post by hermin1 on Oct 4, 2015 15:30:52 GMT -5
please make up your mind, you saiodin earlier post you didn't know. if he was then he had to have been enrolled via his parents in a teribe. do you know what tribal affiliation you have?who besides your gr. grandfather was native American either full blood or mixed blood?In what I was able to find so far,which isn't much, he ,and his parents were listed as white in the censuses prior to 1940. We are trying to help you, and apologize if the above questions are bing asked,as your answers will help us to search the various tribal records, and censuses we have or can find.
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Post by hermin1 on Oct 4, 2015 15:34:15 GMT -5
mr. brown,are you related to him on your mother's side or your father's side. Do you know who your grandparents were and when they were bor and where, and when and where they died?you have no idea how many Clarence EdE. Browns there were and are. Your answers will help us to narrow down our search to,hopefully, the right p[erson.
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Post by richbrown69 on Oct 5, 2015 11:36:07 GMT -5
I really wish I could tell you what tribe he came from. All I have been told is he was American Indian. He was on my fathers side of the family. My fathers name was Richard Brown, son of Clarence Brown Jr and mable Brown. His death certificate states place of birth as Alexander Missouri, 14 Feb 1889. His parents were listed as Stephen and Mary Brown. I really hate too sound repetitive but this is really all I know. I have found other postings on here suggesting that Stephen was a son of bear looking back but ofcourse I would not know. I have pictures of his grave making in Hannibal. It says it was placed by wounded bear. I really do appreciate your help. I know I'm not giving you much to go on but you really do know what I know.
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Post by hermin1 on Oct 5, 2015 11:48:13 GMT -5
Mr. Brown, I found the grave information at find a grave.org it gives his birth and death dates.it also says son of Mary and Stephen Brown,wife of Anna Mae Kelley.We, with the help of louis Garcia went to some lengths to provide information based on what you had given us. Given the information at Find a Grave, all I have been able to find is the 1940 US CensusWard 1, Hannibal, mason,marion,Mo which lists Clarence E. Brown, b. @ 1888 Mo, Age 52, white male Spouse Anna Brown age 56 born MO Daughter Dorothea Kelly age 25, born MO.
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Post by frank on Apr 25, 2020 23:07:40 GMT -5
My great grandfather was Clarence Edward Brown. He passed away in 1950 in Hannibal Missouri. He was born to Stephen and Mary Brown in Alexander Missouri. I am trying to find out any information about them, their parents, and where my family came from. If anyone could shed some light for me I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you clarence (cad) Edward brown was native his mother Mary Elizabeth brown maiden name barker was 1/8 Choctaw and it can be found on the daws the father of Clarence that is listed as Stephen l brown is a aliases true name is sioux native name that is unknown and it is only known that the father of the late Stephen is a tawokonze and that’s pretty much is it year of birth of the one who live under name of Stephen is estimated to be born approx abt 1838 to 1841
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Post by frank on Apr 25, 2020 23:41:53 GMT -5
mr. brown,are you related to him on your mother's side or your father's side. Do you know who your grandparents were and when they were bor and where, and when and where they died?you have no idea how many Clarence EdE. Browns there were and are. Your answers will help us to narrow down our search to,hopefully, the right p[erson. great grandfather had no triple membership and I have done a dna test and it shows that I do have family at fort rotten and that’s a confermative find indicating that or great great grandfather who went by the aka of Stephen l brown is most likely is first child of the late tawokonze who is listed as being born 1821 and only one family blood relative has done a dna on my heritage is a miss sherry Simpson her maiden name Dubois and she is listed as a member of spirit lake tribe she is listed as 1st cousin twice removed second cousin twice removed and I am listed as 3rd cousin to her Clarence e brown native name cad is first cousin to Stephen god laugh brown who passed away in 1919 as I have been exsreamly bussy beating my brains out for many years and one thing I need is is the true name of Stephen l brown cause I have found that he not mesh with any one from European of any kind and only the name can be found to be considered mom and I have came up with zero and based of birth and comparisons to dna pull ups it comes to be lower Dakota sioux and I recall reading or hearing of a person from the tawokonze line leaving family and tribe in late 1859 or early 1860 and never was heard or seen ever again by family or tribe
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Post by frank on Apr 25, 2020 23:47:31 GMT -5
thanks for the info. there is no Alexander,MO, but there is Alexandria,MO, which is in C Clark County. do you know if he was native American? if he wasn't then ,I am sorry, we can not help you. dear administrator Clarence cad Edward brown was native even thrue he is listed as white
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Post by frank on Apr 27, 2020 8:21:56 GMT -5
what was his tribal affiliation? dear administrator Richard brown is my cousin it appears he has just got started on geniology I have been beating my brains out for some time on our late great great grandfather who went by the name of Stephen l brown and I feel that was not his true name cause I have ran his name with every brown known to man kind and no match to any not even to the browns of Australia or Great Britain or Scotland or Ireland or Germany he’ll I even try to see if he was born Norman and I did do a dna on my heritage and it takes me back to finding of 2014 spirit lake Sioux tribe the great great grandfather is the father of Clarence (Cad) Edward Brown Missouri had Indian laws upto 1910 there was some dishonesty commuted about ethnic status back then and it was carried on thrue time by Richards brown great grandfather who happens to be my great grandfather well based on the dna we are of lower Dakota sioux blood this tells me that the name Stephen l brown is a fake name and his true name is of the Sioux and I have no clue to why he hide his true name and all I can say is he started useing the name Stephen in 1860 and lived under it for over 41 years
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Post by frank on Apr 27, 2020 8:56:11 GMT -5
I am looking for the true name of my great great grandfather who went by the name of Stephen l brown for over 40 or 41 years he was born abt 1838 to 1842 and I have done a dna and found that I have livening blood relation at slt spirit lake tribe better known as the spirit lake Sioux of fort totten North Dakota I also know the name of my great great great grandfather and his name was Tawokonze and I feel that the late Stephen l brown is the first child of tawokonze so this is how I know that the name Stephen l brown is fake and I am here in search of his true name for family tree purpose and I have no access to his body for dna verification Minnesota take his body away in year of death from funeral home and he die in Hancock county illinoise Warsaw obit day one thing and you can look hard but you will not find any burial of man in illinoise Missouri or Iowa and I do have a record recorded to my phone that is photo formate from dna match’s the shows that I am direct blood line to tawokonze by means of matching up to a miss sherry Simpson who was born Dubois and she is of the tribe ether by enroll most likely
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