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Post by dakota19 on Sept 14, 2005 18:45:39 GMT -5
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Post by peacekeeper on Sept 14, 2005 23:15:10 GMT -5
In essence, it really doesn't have anything to do with the case we are involved in. The case we are involved with deals with people who did not participate in the Sioux Uprising. They were given land in trust and the government gave the land in trust to the tribe, not the people for whom it was intended. This is not about the government and enrollment. I hope what I said answers your question. However, on the flip side, greed causes destructive behavior and can destroy all we hold sacred. Once again, money seems to be more important than people.  jackie |
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Post by dakota19 on Sept 14, 2005 23:54:23 GMT -5
what if the people on the tribe are legit than basically wouldnt this be the same type of case over enrollment?
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Post by peacekeeper on Sept 15, 2005 7:07:52 GMT -5
The legitimacy issue of tribal members is a separate issue. I still think the case is about the land that was held in trust for loyalist Indians being turned over to the tribe. It was not supposed to be given to other Indians, only the Loyalists.
Jackie
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Post by tokakte on Sept 15, 2005 11:56:27 GMT -5
I agree with Jackie. LD status is the issue here and not tribal membership. I see from the 1886LD website that some are seeking enrollment at Lower Sioux because of the three new council members, and that is their call. I'm enrolled at Santee and have no intention of changing regardless of how the lawsuit is settled. As I said in another thread, the issue being contested by the Governement is the existence of an enforceable trust. I've always had a hard time believing there is such a thing as a "non-enforceable trust", but the Supreme Court has ruled that there indeed is.
Tokakte
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Post by sherwynz on Sept 15, 2005 12:47:30 GMT -5
Speaking of Trust...the Mdewakanton Dakota Nation has had a Tribal Trust Land account since its first treaty agreement. Does anyone out there know what amount is in that account?
The Cobell case is about individual Trust monies, but since the Mdewakanton Tribe is mentioning the Trust Land, I think someone should also look into the Tribal Trust Land account for the Tribe. The U.S. Treasury Dept. and the Dept of the Interior is supposed to be collecting the monies for the Trust Land leases and investing them and paying Fair Market value for the lease during the time of lease. I think there should be an inquiry into this as the Statute of Limitations runs out to file for your Tribal Claim on December 31, 2005.
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Post by dakotaboi on Sept 20, 2005 14:27:49 GMT -5
I agree with tokakte....... where I am "enrolled" and what is happening here are of separate issues.....either way I am Dakota, and proud to be so.
Even before dollar signs started flashing throughout Indian Country.............
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Post by sherwynz on Sept 21, 2005 9:56:02 GMT -5
GOOD NEWS! As of Friday, Oct. 16, 2005, the Lower Sioux Community Council has voted to file a lawsuit regarding the Tribal Trust Land monies. This means that the Mdewakanton Tribe will get their lawsuit in before the Statute of Limitationsruns out on December 31, 2005. What effect does this have on the Lineal Descendancy Case? It enhances it and strengthens the position of the lineal descendants in the Sheldon Wolfchild case.
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Post by dakotaboi on Sept 22, 2005 11:11:45 GMT -5
Waste!!!
I am so glad I am a part of all of this coming togetherness, a part of all you! TIOSPA ye!
Oddly enough, it seems you CAN tell who is who when you read their words on here.....nice to know some of us can retain the values of those struggled, fought, and died so we could be here today!!!
It calls for another powwow, ennet???
I'll bring the.....um.....the.......lawn chairs.....can't really cook, so....LOL
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Post by akitchita on Oct 6, 2005 13:03:45 GMT -5
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Post by cecil on Oct 6, 2005 13:46:37 GMT -5
Peacekeeper, I have been try to find a way to send you an email, but I cant seem to figure out how that is done on this site.
Cecil........
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Post by peacekeeper on Oct 6, 2005 16:10:31 GMT -5
hi cecil,
my email is jackiemhahn@aol.com. send me an email.
jackie
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Post by dutch on Dec 6, 2005 10:45:21 GMT -5
if your father is not an enrolled member of any indian nation.
then you are not a tribal member of any indian nation.
for example, when your father is white,black,mexican, are other race.
by ancestoral rights your not entitled to be an enrolled member of any tribe.
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Post by dakotaboi on Dec 6, 2005 15:05:11 GMT -5
DUTCH-
A recommendation: Careful on how your views are translated from your brain to this board. A well intended opinion may be construed as a personal attack on someone. I respect all opinions, this is just a piece of advice!! Thank you!!! --dakotaboi
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thank you for allowing me access to this site.