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Post by mato opi on Jan 20, 2014 17:47:51 GMT -5
MY DAD WAS 1/4 CHEROKEE FRANKLIN DIMPSEY CHARLTON NO DAW ROLL #
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Post by mato opi on Jan 20, 2014 17:52:24 GMT -5
IF I NOT GET MEMBERSHIP WITH TRIBE OF MY GG GRANDFATHER STEPHEN BROWN CAN THE AT LEAST GIVE ME A DOCUMENT STATEING IT IS OVER BLOOD QAUNTUM AND REFER ME TO A TRIBE OF THE SIOUX SUCH AS QAUWPAW AFTER ALL THE QPAW TRIBE OF OKLAHOMA IS OF AT ONE TIME USE TO BE OF THE SIOUX WHY SEND A PERSON WHO SIOUX BLOOD OVER TO THE CHEROKEE MY SIOUX BLOOD OUT WIGHT THE CHEROKEE BLOOD
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 21, 2014 17:08:18 GMT -5
I do not have the authority to do that. Louie Garcia wrote and said that he needs a listing of you and your ancestors not scattered comments about them. provide date and place of birth,and date and place of death for each person on the list, if it applies: 1. yourself 2.your parents 3. your mother's parents, and your father's parents 4. grt. grandparents on both sides of the family 5. gr.gr.grandparents on both sides of the family 6.gr.gr.gr. grandparents on both sides of the family. go back as far as you can to provide the above information.it is very important that you provide the info on those persons on the list,who have any Sioux blood and their blood quantum. Send it to louie Garcia. ________________________________ also provide the documentation to confirm the blood quantum for your gr.granndma and grandma, and documentation;marriage records,birth records,death records, and/or supporting documents,such as obituaries if person(s) are deceased.
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Post by wakanhotain on Jan 22, 2014 17:49:24 GMT -5
Matoopi: You have things mixed up. The Quapaw are a separate tribe from the Dakota. The Quapaw are Siouan speakers, meaning they speak a language that is similar to the Dakota. A thousand years ago the Dakota and Quapaw where one nation. Other Siouan speakers are the Assiniboine, Hidatsa, Crow, etc. Google the term Siouan for more information.
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Post by hermin1 on Feb 9, 2014 14:34:57 GMT -5
The surname winkler is german in origin.According to the document filed in the court, Mattie May and Clarence Brown were George's parents. Clarence brown married mattie may in 1908 in Keokuk ,Iwoa. parents listed for him were neither Stephen Brown nor mary agnes Brown.i have been unablet o find anything on the parents he listed in his marriage License application,in either Iowa or Missouri.
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Post by hermin1 on Feb 9, 2014 14:37:23 GMT -5
I AM MORE THAN 1/8 A BLOOD QAUNTUM WAS DONE where is your documentation to prove your allegation?
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Post by mato opi on Mar 5, 2014 13:55:29 GMT -5
you need to go talk to lady who works for cherokee nation and as is no papers can be found to even prove that my great grandma was german cause if you do a search you will find george winkler died in 1860's and his last final service record was on prisoner of war boat that carried dakota sioux and you will find his wife passed on in 1870's and my great grandmother martha documents not support her as being german decent and her parents appear on no census and nor do she only records that can be found are marrieage and death
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Post by mato opi on Mar 5, 2014 20:40:04 GMT -5
The surname winkler is german in origin.According to the document filed in the court, Mattie May and Clarence Brown were George's parents. Clarence brown married mattie may in 1908 in Keokuk ,Iwoa. parents listed for him were neither Stephen Brown nor mary agnes Brown.i have been unablet o find anything on the parents he listed in his marriage License application,in either Iowa or Missouri.
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Post by mato opi on Mar 5, 2014 20:40:45 GMT -5
The surname winkler is german in origin.According to the document filed in the court, Mattie May and Clarence Brown were George's parents. Clarence brown married mattie may in 1908 in Keokuk ,Iwoa. parents listed for him were neither Stephen Brown nor mary agnes Brown.i have been unablet o find anything on the parents he listed in his marriage License application,in either Iowa or Missouri.
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Post by mato opi on Mar 5, 2014 20:42:48 GMT -5
you are not gonna find jack in missouri cause his parent are stephen and mary brown of spirit lake as i stated he was stranded in missouri
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Post by mato opi on Mar 5, 2014 20:44:38 GMT -5
i take it that you and the u s goverment trying to say clarence hatched from a egg and matty was of the 3rd right of adolf hitler or some kind of crap
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Post by mato opi on Mar 5, 2014 22:23:27 GMT -5
I AM MORE THAN 1/8 A BLOOD QAUNTUM WAS DONE where is your documentation to prove your allegation?
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Post by mato opi on Mar 5, 2014 22:27:11 GMT -5
how about i go get a dna test done and i bet i end up being a grand total of 5/8 or more native than you think cause i am about to do so and i not put it by for one second i am 1/2 sioux by blood and then you and demarce can cut down on knocking me down
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 8, 2014 1:52:42 GMT -5
I told you before and I am telling you again, you need to get Stephen brown's full heirship report from the nathinal archives Records Administration. you know when he was born, and when he died. the notes that you sent me were Louie Garcia's notes from either Stephen brown's heirship report or his father's, bear Looks back. There is nothing in those notes that mentions Stephen having a son, Clarence Edward Brown. I do not work for the US Govt. You can shout til the cows come home, but without documentation that proves the blood quantum of your ancestors-bar Stephne brown,his wife and their ancesotrs-you won't get anywhere with any of the Tribes.
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Post by earthw7 on Jan 12, 2015 13:20:50 GMT -5
I have been busy and have not been on this site for a while: I have spent most of 30 years listening to stories. To enroll into the Lakota-Dakota-Nakota nation you must prove you blood lines most of the tribes have 1/4th blood quantum requirement with a parent or grandparent on the rolls. You can not enroll into a tribe because they might be related to another tribal a 1000 years ago. Plus the tribe do not accept DNA for proof and there is no DNA that will prove which tribe you come form, It can say maybe you have American Indian or Asian blood. This website is people who volunteer to help do genealogy of the tribes nothing to do with the government, We hear all kind of stories but you must prove those stories and that is not responsibility of the tribes, If your family left the tribe 151 years ago then you would have no claim
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Post by earthw7 on Jan 12, 2015 13:31:45 GMT -5
I found Clarence Brown wife Martha May Son George Listed as white
Clarence Brown Widowed with Son George 1930 Iowa
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 26, 2015 14:30:02 GMT -5
thanks earthw7. I had already sent him that. how have you been? Hope you and your family are doing well.
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Post by richbrown69 on Sept 29, 2015 13:03:47 GMT -5
Clarence Brown sr was born in Alexandria Missouri and passed in Hannibal Missouri in 1950. He was my great grandfather. I too am trying to research my family history. My grandfather, Clarence Brown Jr, was married to Mable Ruth Brown, he passed in 1981 and she in 1987. They had 4 children, Carl, Delford, Richard (my father), and Connie. If anyone has any info please contact me. Thank you.
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Post by mato opi on Jun 21, 2016 1:39:53 GMT -5
the 1909 devils lake annuity roll lists the following in the Stephen Brown family; Stephen Brown age 36 yr. father Agnes brown age 31 yr. wife George Brown age 10 yrs. son james Brown age 6 yrs. son Peter Brown age 3 yrs. son 1910 US census lists following in the family: Stephen Brown is listed as born @1874 ND age 35 yrs. parents born Minnesota wife Agnes is Age 35 yrs. son james is 6 yrs. son peter is 4 yrs. dau. Louisa is 3 yrs. annie Brown is 1 yr. unknown brown is ? _______________________ No record of the family after this US Census as far as I can tell. clarence listed as a (?) mark and his date of birth listed as a (?) mark and the some negiteve people on facebook wo have came here to try useing proboards to make me look like a fake
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Post by mato opi on Jun 21, 2016 1:42:17 GMT -5
Matoopi: You have things mixed up. The Quapaw are a separate tribe from the Dakota. The Quapaw are Siouan speakers, meaning they speak a language that is similar to the Dakota. A thousand years ago the Dakota and Quapaw where one nation. Other Siouan speakers are the Assiniboine, Hidatsa, Crow, etc. Google the term Siouan for more information. yes i know this now
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