Here I go, I know this seems a odd place to be for this question, but my husbands family comes from Scott Campbell and so many have been so helpful here. Here is where I am stuck. I am looking for John Louis'/Lewis Lavigne's father. His wife "Maggie" Lupient (daughter of Theadore a Winnebago/Fox b. Prairie du Chien). Why am I here, well Mom said our John Louis Lavigne (my Great Grandfather) was Sioux or Fox. Can't find that. James Hansen thinks his father is most likely from John Baptiste Lavigne b. Green Bay. other family members say Chippewa. I do find a JB Lavigne on the Chippewa roll as 2/3rd. "rejected" along with other members of the family. I have a hit or 98% match of a DNA connection to a John Ludore Lavigne WI and Mary Vieau. Now I know the girl connected to this ancestor, so I know he is not Great grandfather. Another researcher says perhaps this link is a brother to the Father I am looking for thus the link. My John L said he lied about his age to go into the military (I have the records) he gives his dob. 12/25/1843, I believe 12/25/1845 or 46. (several census give 46) he told his children and grand kids he had been a twin, he would not talk of family "to painful don't ask". I can't find him before 1860. I find a Louis Lavigne living in a roberts family. I wonder if this is him, and was he indentured. He did go by Louis on several documents. How do I find that out? again thank you for any input.
when you first found him listeed in a record, where was he living, and how old was he? is it possible he may have been adopted? Do you hae anything that might indicate that his father may hae ben in the fur trading business? See what you can find on John Ludore Lavigne and his family, including his wife Mary Vieau. the DNA match is too strong to be a coincidence, I am basing this on assumption that you had DNA testing done.
The surnames Lavigne and Vieau are French, so your ancestor is part French.
Yep, I did the DNA. I have his military records, he told all of his kids he lied about his age. I believe that he gives 1843, but on 3 census records they give 1846 I think that is right. I have baptism records for John Ludore and Mary Vieau Lavigne first 2 children and I know his ancestor. I spoke with another Vieau that is a doctor at ottawa university. He thinks because of the close match my ancestor is most likely a 'brother" to her John Ludore. She too is looking for her link... I think I am lost for the most part. My cousins say Chippewa and 2 of my cousins and myself say Sioux or Fox/Sac. I think the last two of us are correct. Mom insisted NO Chippewa. So don't know. Oups forgot no I do not think he is adopted at all. But could have been indentured. He is Joseph Crelie/Crely's ancestor and Old Joseph was delivering mail. I find John L. with his family Leticia M. Lupien-Lavigne in the 1870 .
Last Edit: Jun 19, 2013 16:38:58 GMT -5 by tamaramcl
mary's parents were Jacques Vieux(I) b. 1737, d. 1852, and Angelique Roy(1776-1862). Angelique was his second wife. I will see what i can find on The de laVigne surname. have you triedthe Cnadian GenWeb? Thatis where the laVignes are from. No you are not lost,at least not yet. John And mary,if i remember ,had a bunch of kids. here is a link that might interest youre. the lavignes: archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/lavigne/2009-02/12338112
the sioux Connection comes from Mary Vieux's mother,Angelique Roy.
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herei another link re. John and mary Vieux's family. Just click on the link to see what rootsweb has on thier children.http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=rdelangetree2013&id=I1822
Hermin, Boy I wish it seemed that easy. Yes I do have the Vieaux information and am on the Vieaux link. And the doctor in Ottawa is a Vieau, Andre as a matter of fact. We know that John Ludore and Mary Vieau are "not" my John Louis Lavigne's parents. Well pretty sure unless they gave up there first born. We are looking for the parent or father to John Ludore Lavinge, thus most likely finding my Great Great Gfr. Because the marriage certificate on my John L's and Letitia Lupient marriage states him as giving his father as Battine we are assuming it is Baptiste, and even more likely John Baptiste Lavigne from Green Bay. The girl connected to John Ludore was told by family her Great Great grandfather was John Baptiste Lavigne and they were Bourder dit Lavignes. If we can find that child then maybe we will have found my John L's father. I do have a clipping regarding an "Baptiste Lavigne an Indian, took the mail along the Indian trail" he delivered to Pierre in 1838 in Fond du Lac." wish I could find that Baptiste. Maybe this is him. I have the article. Again you are very helpful will check out the site's just to make sure. Thanks again
I haven't given up the search ,by any means. Can you scan and send me a copy of the marriage certificate and the article clipping? my email is firstname.lastname@example.org When you tracked your family tree backwards, who was the closest ancestor to John Louis laVigne, and what were the birth and death dates and places fior this ancestor?
there is no one named John Lavigne, nor John Louis or John Lewis Lavigne, in the Soldiers and Sailors Database from NARA for US Civil War, in the Union Army. What military Records are you referring to? He could not have served in either of the World Wars as he would have been too old. what census records are you referring to in your initial posting? The Census records for Wisconsin prior to 1870 do not list any John Lavigne born @1843.
Sorry for the delay here, Sick hubby and gone for a week attending to MD treatments for his heart. Here goes. I will email the marriage record for you , the record was found as Supont in the Wisconsin History ctr. Someone transcribed the L as a S. Linda Waggoner found it for me. She and James Hansen think where John L. gives his fathers name as Battine (an open a if you look at it) is most likely John Baptiste Brodeur Lavigne. And now that I have a 98% hit on John Ludore Lavigne and Mary Vieau we know we are connected or my John Louis/Lewis Lavigne is connected some how. As an Uncle to my John, has to be something like that. Or they have the same father and a different mother. Now for the Census you will find John L and my Great grandmother listed in the 1905 census of Colby, They can be found on the 1870 census of Wisconsin Necheda (sp?) with there children Ida and Theodore and with them Mary Lavigne a cousin we believe. above and below them are family members of his wife Leticia .. the Lupient family in the 1880 census the can be found as Lewis J. Lavigne Mayville, Clark Wisconsin here he is with his wife Latza (Leticia) and children Eda, Theodor, Wales, Peter, Herbert, Jessy, Peter and another. I have his Declaration for Pension he was in Co. H 11th Infantry and enlisted on the 24th of August 1868 he gives his birth place as Grand Rapids Wisconsin 1843. Now since he told family he lied about his age I assume he was born more like 1845 or 46. He is easily found on line in fact he and my husbands Scott Campbell are found in the same roll. Funny.. God bless you for all your hard work it is appreciated. Married in Madison Portage City... Tammy
Oups forgot to say he was wounded in battle at Bayou Cache and enlistment date should be 1861 nor 68 sorry and he was wounded July 7 1862. in Jan 1864 he was appointed Serg. he is described as 5'8" complexion dark, color of eyes, black, color of hair dark and was a farmer. born in Grand Rapids. He says he is in Nescedah Wis in 1866. I find a Lewis Lavigne (Lavine/Levene/Lavin) living with a Roberts Family (Hugh Roberts) I wonder if this is him and if he was indentured.. How would I find this out? Hummm I think it is in 1860 have to go back and look
tamaramc1 try www.familysearch.org. doa search there for him under the various spellings. do not fill in the country search box, select Any for event: plug in 1855-1870 and Wisconsin, for place. if he was working for them as a ervant(indentured or not) the census taker would have noted it.
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