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Post by Mathew503 on Oct 14, 2009 13:06:15 GMT -5
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Post by sisco on Oct 20, 2009 0:00:42 GMT -5
Wow You are right this is scary, you got my attention!
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Post by DawnDay on Oct 20, 2009 14:46:12 GMT -5
Sisco, Yes, I read Matthew's post, and it does sound scary. But I don't think we are going to have to worry about having to get the vaccine, contrary, I think we might have to fight to get it. My daughter and I are still investigating the Swine Flu shot itself, not sure yet? But we both did get the regular flue shot, and no side effects from that. I feel at least a little protected as I have Lupus, which is an autoimmune disease, which my immune system might over-react and attack one of my vital organs instead of the flu. So in my case, I must be even more careful. In the mean time, as the article says and all news: says to take your vitamins, especially D, and C, I take at least 13 a day to build up my immune system to fight off anything. And have been for some time, but I eat and drink a lot of water when I do take vitamins. As to many can hurt your liver, and I also try to space them out, when taken. Google sites and do your own investigation on the Swine flu shot, it is good to do your own homework as Matthew remarked. There are not that many of us left, must try to keep our race alive. A caring relative, Dawnday
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Post by DawnDay on Oct 21, 2009 18:49:58 GMT -5
To those on Oyate, that might be concerned about the Swine flu, one of my cousins that lives in So. Dakota. Just had two of her grandchildren confirmed with the Swine flu from the Doctor. Thought I would share this so that if your children start coughing and say they have a bad headache, vomiting and or diarrhea with a temperature of over 100, it might be possible that they have the swine flu. The Doctor told the family, to drink lots of liquids and take tylenol or ibuprofen for fever. And the 4th day seems to be the worse day of symptoms. Seems to be from the first day the kids presented with their first symptoms, to after fever breaks about a week in time. But if not careful, can relapse and second time each person's body will have a worse time getting over it. Many children in their school, have also presented with the Swine flu symptoms, so sick children must stay home for at least 24 to 48 hrs after fever breaks. Secondary infections are also something to watch for, such as pneumonia. From what I have heard on CNN and news are saying to stay home with basic symptoms and treat the symptoms as I said with Tylenol or Ibuprofen. But if trouble breathing, definitely needs medical help and a Doctors care. As might need help with more oxygen in blood system from pneumonia. My own Doctor's office were asking me questions about the flu, which alarmed me even more when I called to find out what my Doctor's advise might be. The nurse ask me to call her, if I find out where they might get the Swine flu shot for themselves. If I find out. So thought I would share with you all. I feel like the Town Crier, but my concern is for my people. Must stay ahead of what is going on, to keep ourselves healthy and alive. So take care of yourselves my friends and relatives, looks like the start of a bad flu indeed. The Town Crier on Oyate, Dawnday
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Post by DawnDay on Oct 23, 2009 15:26:49 GMT -5
To those on Oyate, that might be concerned about the Swine flu, one of my cousins that lives in So. Dakota. Just had two of her grandchildren confirmed with the Swine flu from the Doctor. Thought I would share this so that if your children start coughing and say they have a bad headache, vomiting and or diarrhea with a temperature of over 100, it might be possible that they have the swine flu. The Doctor told the family, to drink lots of liquids and take tylenol or ibuprofen for fever. And the 4th day seems to be the worse day of symptoms. Seems to be from the first day the kids presented with their first symptoms, to after fever breaks about a week in time. But if not careful, can relapse and second time each person's body will have a worse time getting over it. Many children in their school, have also presented with the Swine flu symptoms, so sick children must stay home for at least 24 to 48 hrs after fever breaks. Secondary infections are also something to watch for, such as pneumonia. From what I have heard on CNN and news are saying to stay home with basic symptoms and treat the symptoms as I said with Tylenol or Ibuprofen. But if trouble breathing, definitely needs medical help and a Doctors care. As might need help with more oxygen in blood system from pneumonia. My own Doctor's office were asking me questions about the flu, which alarmed me even more when I called to find out what my Doctor's advise might be. The nurse ask me to call her, if I find out where they might get the Swine flu shot for themselves. If I find out. So thought I would share with you all. I feel like the Town Crier, but my concern is for my people. Must stay ahead of what is going on, to keep ourselves healthy and alive. So take care of yourselves my friends and relatives, looks like the start of a bad flu indeed. The Town Crier on Oyate, Dawnday TO ALL - Regarding the Swine Flu, Just got an email from a friend in Ft. Thompson, she said there have been 6 deaths, that might be due to the Flu. They are all taking precautions washing hands etc., I will keep them all in my prayers tonight as I will for the rest of our families. As I said, there aren't that many of us left. Here in L.A., people are lining up for blocks to get the Free Swine Flu vaccine shot, in Encino-where ever that is. But only people at risk are able to get it at this time. My daughter and I are both at risk, with health issues. But still haven't decided for the shot yet. But hasn't been available for us yet anyway. Take care my friends and relatives, I pray for protection for all of us. dawnday
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Post by sunshine on Oct 23, 2009 17:18:12 GMT -5
As I have concerns about the efficacy and safety of the vaccines, I have been giving my family colloidal silver. We take a couple of tablespoons/day as well as spraying it on our faces near the nose. It is a natural anti-viral/bacterial agent. There is also a product called Lysinol that is the amino acid lysine bound to copper. The lysine takes the copper into the cells and the copper kills the bacteria and viruses. Made by Molecular Biologics, can be found or ordered through all health food stores. Also saw an article about leaving raw onions out in your rooms. The onions actually soak up the viruses in the air. They were put under a microscope and the viruses were on the onions. No one in the houses with onions ever got sick.
We have been through numerous plagues throughout history. They are just not allowed to be called plagues anymore so people don't get scared- not that we are not all scared to death anyway!(:>) Love to all Sunshine
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Post by DawnDay on Oct 23, 2009 18:00:52 GMT -5
As I have concerns about the efficacy and safety of the vaccines, I have been giving my family colloidal silver. We take a couple of tablespoons/day as well as spraying it on our faces near the nose. It is a natural anti-viral/bacterial agent. There is also a product called Lysinol that is the amino acid lysine bound to copper. The lysine takes the copper into the cells and the copper kills the bacteria and viruses. Made by Molecular Biologics, can be found or ordered through all health food stores. Also saw an article about leaving raw onions out in your rooms. The onions actually soak up the viruses in the air. They were put under a microscope and the viruses were on the onions. No one in the houses with onions ever got sick. We have been through numerous plagues throughout history. They are just not allowed to be called plagues anymore so people don't get scared- not that we are not all scared to death anyway!(:>) Love to all Sunshine Sunshine, Thanks for the information, but did you see that man that has taken the colloidal silver every day, he is almost the color or silver now. And that is the color he will remain. I would be a little afraid of taking that myself, I have definitely heard about it before though. I will investigate the other Lysine, sounds interesting. At the moment, my daughter and I are taking 1000 mg. of Calcium, vitamin C, and 1000 units of Vitamin D, along with B-complex. Plus other regular multi-vitamins. To build immune systems. I will definitely, start investigating thru internet on the colloidal silver and the Lysine. Thanks again for sharing, we all need all the help we can get. I know there are those that say the government is going to make us take the vaccine, but I have only found the contrary to be true, have friends and relatives all over the U.S., and Europe. And they can't get the shot even though they have been trying to get it. The government is not forcing us, they don't care if we do or not, its up to us. To be informed or not. Everyone I am talking to says the same thing, can't get the shot, they are more afraid of getting the Flu... Take good care of yourself and your loved ones my friend, Dawnday
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Post by DawnDay on Oct 23, 2009 18:50:01 GMT -5
Sunshine,
I googled "The Colloital Man" from 60 Minutes show, and found this information. Very interesting.
Thank you again,
Dawnday -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Testimonials FDA How it Works History of Colloidal Silver History of Colloidal Silver Since the dawn of man, many civilizations have recognized the properties of silver in preventing diseases. For instance, the Romans used silver nitrate therapeutically, and the hermetic and alchemical writings of Paracelsus speak of the virtues of silver as a healing substance,continuing to be used in the middle ages on the wounds from battles. During the plaques of Europe wealthy families gave their children silver spoons to suck on, hence the saying born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Certain royalty were given the nickname Blue bloods because of their blue skinned appearance. Exposed early to high levels of silver consumption such as silver plates, goblets, and utensils for daily dinning lead to the condition argryia. Silver coins were placed in drinking water and milk was store in silver pails in order to prevent spoilage.
In the 1800s, several physicians discovered the antibacterial (antigerm) qualities of silver and applied them to their practice of medicine. They used silver nitrate successfully in the treatment of skin ulcers, compound fractures and suppurating (draining puss) wounds. In 1881, Carl Crede pioneered the installation of dilute silver nitrate in the eye of neonates to prevent gonorrheal ophthalmia, a technique which has been in widespread use ever since. Von Naegeli and others in 1893 realized that the antibacterial effects of silver were primarily due to the silver ion. He coined the term oligodynamic to mean that a small amount of silver is released from the metallic surface when placed in contact with liquids.
In 1924, the first electro-colloidal silver was produced, at the time it was very high tech. It seemed that colloidal silver breakthroughs and new technology were just around the corner. Scientists were doing research on the lymphatic fluids taking note they are colloidal in nature creating new possibilities for colloidal silver medicine. A stumbling block however was that the method of creating a colloidal silver consisted of grinding up silver into a powder and placing it in water. This proved to be problematic as the particles would fall to the bottom. A solution was devised to use protein stablizers to slow the fall of the particles this created a new problem as the chemicals from the protein were removed they left a toxic residue. Even still colloidal silver was still in widespread use and in 1938 was known to kill over 650 infectious diseases. Pharmaceutical companies then replaced the heirloom silver for widespread use of modern medicine antibiotics. This led to a severe halt and funding for colloidal silver research. These profit based corporations realized to protect their monopoly they needed to suppress and hide the benefits of silver. At the turn of the century, Dr. William Halstead, one of the founding fathers of modern surgery, advocated the use of silver foil dressings for wounds. These dressings were used extensively until just after World War II, and were listed in the Physician's Desk Reference until 1955, when the use of antibiotics became widespread.
What then proceeded were the dark ages of "modern" health. It became evident during the 1980's that a bacterial resistance was being formed for the synthetic antibiotics produced by the pharmaceutical companies. The first reported cases of community-acquired MRSA began to appear in the mid-1990s from Australia, New Zealand, the United States, the United Kingdom, France, Finland, Canada, and Samoa.
A December 1996 Readers Digest article , "Warning: Antibiotics Could Endanger Your Child", it is stated that "Antibiotic resistance appeared soon after the introduction of these synthetic drugs in the 1930s. Since then, more and more bacteria have become resistant to more and more antibiotics." The article continues: "Last January, researchers at the Georgetown University School of Medicines Department of Pediatrics monitored 20 children taking amoxicillin daily to prevent ear infections. (Note: Dr. Fallon) The study indicated that while their risk of infection from a resistant germ was 20% before using the antibiotic, after a five-month regimen, they stood a 100% chance of contracting a superbug, a fivefold increase in risk. Four months after those children were taken off amoxicillin, their risk level returned to its original point."
The effectiveness of antibiotics is rapidly decreasing.The CDC in Atlanta said that over 70,000 people died in American hospitals in 2000 from infectious conditions that resisted conventional drugs. The medical community has know this for many years!
American Biotech Labs (ABL) was founded in 1998 under the name American Silver LLC. Since that time, the company has changed its name to American Biotech Labs to clearly establish its identity as a bio-medical technology company. Although the concept of using silver is not a new idea, the founders spent years before ABL was incorporated, refining the process to create a far more effective agent that promotes health and well being. The end result was SilverSol technology.
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Post by sunshine on Oct 24, 2009 8:33:24 GMT -5
Thank you for your wonderful information Dawn. The only reason that that man turned blue was because of the HUGE amounts of silver that he had been taking for many years., A tbsp or two a day is more than enough to ward off infection and will not create the blue color of skin. If you can put it into a spray bottle and spray it under your tongue and actually on your face near your nostrils, so it goes up the nasal cavity, it resides there to kill off germs that you may inhale. Sunshine
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Post by tfeleht2 on Oct 24, 2009 13:43:11 GMT -5
I thought medical quackery was a thing of the past, but therein lies the lesson.
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Post by tfeleht2 on Oct 24, 2009 18:03:46 GMT -5
Thank you for your wonderful information Dawn. The only reason that that man turned blue was because of the HUGE amounts of silver that he had been taking for many years., A tbsp or two a day is more than enough to ward off infection and will not create the blue color of skin. If you can put it into a spray bottle and spray it under your tongue and actually on your face near your nostrils, so it goes up the nasal cavity, it resides there to kill off germs that you may inhale. Sunshine Sunshine and DawnDay: Thanks you two for providing the "silver" stories because I really didn't look at it that way. I just thought of coins and jewelry, not anyone using a tblsp or two a day inside their body. You definitely have me thinking now and I'll get back to you. Thanks again. tfel.eht2
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Post by sunshine on Oct 24, 2009 19:54:40 GMT -5
Can be purchased as a liquid at any health store. Each to his own tfeleht2. I AM a Dr. These are just two options for those who either choose a more natural pathway, or those who can not afford to purchase the traditional meds. The Lysinol has also been used successfully against west nile. Each time I hear of someone dying from such things, I just cringe, as it was a needless loss of life. Especially with things like antibiotic resistant germs and the high cost of traditional meds these days. Sunshine
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Post by tfeleht2 on Oct 24, 2009 23:57:50 GMT -5
Can be purchased as a liquid at any health store. Each to his own tfeleht2. I AM a Dr. These are just two options for those who either choose a more natural pathway, or those who can not afford to purchase the traditional meds. The Lysinol has also been used successfully against west nile. Each time I hear of someone dying from such things, I just cringe, as it was a needless loss of life. Especially with things like antibiotic resistant germs and the high cost of traditional meds these days. Sunshine ******I have always been curious about the antibiotic resistant germs you mention. It just seems to me with our medical expertise nowadays that rather than have germs dictate the ballgame, why can't we as humans with all that brain power win at these germ games and not fold at the sign of resistance. That reminds me of the scenario of the germ being our leader instead of the other way around. I can understand that germs can mutate to combat an antibiotic, but again I revert to human intellectual capacity to overcome these minor deviations. With this H1N1 around us and many dying, I just do not understand that we cannot prevent or cure some of these ailments that are harassing us. Something to think about.
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Post by DawnDay on Oct 25, 2009 1:35:19 GMT -5
Can be purchased as a liquid at any health store. Each to his own tfeleht2. I AM a Dr. These are just two options for those who either choose a more natural pathway, or those who can not afford to purchase the traditional meds. The Lysinol has also been used successfully against west nile. Each time I hear of someone dying from such things, I just cringe, as it was a needless loss of life. Especially with things like antibiotic resistant germs and the high cost of traditional meds these days. Sunshine ******I have always been curious about the antibiotic resistant germs you mention. It just seems to me with our medical expertise nowadays that rather than have germs dictate the ballgame, why can't we as humans with all that brain power win at these germ games and not fold at the sign of resistance. That reminds me of the scenario of the germ being our leader instead of the other way around. I can understand that germs can mutate to combat an antibiotic, but again I revert to human intellectual capacity to overcome these minor deviations. With this H1N1 around us and many dying, I just do not understand that we cannot prevent or cure some of these ailments that are harassing us. Something to think about. Unfortunately, they haven't even been able to find the cure for the common cold. Can't imagine, why that has taken so long to cure, except it is money making from Doctor's visits to, prescribing needless antibiotics not to mention over the counter products. All in all someone is making money off the suffering of others. The biggest money maker is Cancer, many have said that they actually have had a cure for that. But I find that hard to believe, even if it is a money maker for ALL. How could man kind, keep a cure from the multitudes for the sake of money. However, man's inhumanity to man never fails to amaze me. I for one wish there was something as simple as colloital silver, to drink to cure my ails. I'm quite sure there is a cure out there for every disease known to mankind. But the more and more there are of us the nastier the diseases seem to get. Well, that is my two cents worth, for today. Dawnday
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Post by hermin1 on Oct 25, 2009 18:07:53 GMT -5
A strain of the so-called swine flu made its appearence in late 1969-1970. The medical community and the news media raised a hullaballou to get people to get the swine flu shot. Many people did, and there were several deaths and numerous individuals suffered adverse reactions, due to the chemicals used in producing the vaccine.imyself sufferedadverse effects from the shot.
The flu vaccines do not prevent you from getting the flu. What the vaccine does is to prevent it ,once it has invaded the respiratory tract(the portal of entry), from being spread systemically,and or lessen the systemic effects of its invasion. The groups most susceptible to the swine flu,are infants and children,and those who weren't born in 1969-1970, those who have heart and respiratory problems,and the immuno-compromised. For the infants and children,please make sure they are up to date on their childhood innoculations,particularly,the pneumonoia vaccine, andthe meningitisvaccine(s).
For the other groups I mentioned above,please make sure you get the pneumonia vaccine.
Zinc, expecially zinc sulfate is viricidal. Include foods high in zinc in your daily food intake during the flu season,ie nuts,such as almonds,walnuts,pecans,etc. have a high content of zinc. there is a chewable form of Zinc available at the pharmacies.
Some useful rememdies that I grew up with for dealing with the flu are: Chamomille Tea works by helping break the fever, soothes the gut,and is sedative in its effects. Hot lemonade made with honey is also soothing.
Red wine is also viricidal.My mom used to make up a batch of wine soup when we felt like we were coming down with the flu. Boil some thin spaghetti or vermicelliin in salt water. Pour into a bowl, and add a fruit juice size glass of red wine(ie Mogan David or a rose)to it, then drink the soup. this is also a good rememdy for the 24 hour stomach flu. Avoid milk and dairty products if you do catch the flu,as they are hard on the kidneys,which are one of the main excretory pathways of eliminating the bug and it's by-products.
Colloidal silver is harmful to the kidneys.
As for the common cold,there are 75 + varieties of the cold virus.To give a shot of the vaccines for all the strains for this bug,would require a syringe as big as a turkey baster,and a very very big needle.
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