Mathew503
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Oct 8, 2009 15:33:46 GMT -5
Post by Mathew503 on Oct 8, 2009 15:33:46 GMT -5
read this and see what you think www.wnd.com/?pageId=112098This is much more of a problem then you all think. the wheels are in motion to oust the usa from world power and to kill and replace the dollar as the major world currency, not only this but the makings of our civil war is on the horizon. while we all sit at home and watch and read what is appropriate for us in order for us to be be as blind to the fact as possible. I mean it i am not an alarmist, but this is progressing rather rapidly and if not caught NOW it will be to late. check the house bills check whats going on in washington and local governments as we speak. this is nothing to sit and say "OH WHATEVER" i can no longer listen to these people who follow our "president" GOOGLE this subject, do your own research/educate yourself. www.kulr8.com/news/local/59284497.htmlthis is going on right now. Jimmy, you should know about this. you have the first hand by living there, and you are very knowledgeable. have you a opinion on this? this is policing w/o being appointed by the people. AGAINST THE LAW. this is just a testing ground for a much bigger plan to cripple the usa with marshall law en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law. I am asking that people stop putting faith in our government and officals, and pu the faith in yourself and educating yourself and everyone around you. This sounds far fetched. but if you research just a little bit you will find out that the agenda is grim, and for us as a native people may be our last days. you worry about if the guy is eligible for office? wonder who he works for...... it;s not us..!!! we need to act and pull together as a united force against this "Bloodless coup" Again i hate to be "this guy" but my view of this subject has been turned on it's head. and it is already to late to WoW,Wtf? it's time to say ok, "I" Will make a difference and "I" will do my part to not let this happen to the things "I" love the most in this world. <-----Mathew----->
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Oct 8, 2009 18:15:02 GMT -5
Post by DawnDay on Oct 8, 2009 18:15:02 GMT -5
"I do not wish any political differences between the great people on this wonderful site, draw permanent lines of political disagreement to the extent we are shy about commenting or exchanging meaningful dialoge on issues not relating to presentday politics. However, please be advised that those of us on this site that see distortions of the truth, will continue to respond and speak out.......that is the way it should be. Your friend Jazzdog (Male) Curtis....I am .Not female....good try." Jazzdog, I do enjoy reading your posts. I regret that I could not figure out (thru your writing) that you are male, for that I ask your forgiveness. I appreciate that you are passionate about OBUMMER and rail against the vast right-wing agenda. I will continue to read your posts, smile as I finish reading what you write, because I repeat: "I enjoy reading your posts." Your friend, Curtis Michael Kitto "MIKE" TO MIKE , AM I WRONG OR ARE YOU BOTH APOLOGIZING FOR THINKING JAZZDOG BEING A FEMALE, WAS SOMETHING TO APOLOGIZE FOR. IRRITATED, RENE'E DAWNDAY
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Oct 8, 2009 23:09:17 GMT -5
Post by tfeleht2 on Oct 8, 2009 23:09:17 GMT -5
I think the way I read those posts was that Curtis "Mike" was upset at Jazzdog and wanted to throw a punch at Jazzdog by saying Jazzdog was female. "Mike" apparently doesn't think kindly of females, but Jazzdog was only correcting "Mike" about his perceptions.
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Post by Curtis Kitto "MIKE" on Oct 9, 2009 0:44:44 GMT -5
Folks, I really could not determine from JazzDog's writing, what his gender was. I had long speculated that the writing seem to have a feminine touch, because as I read Jazzdog's writing, I noticed that his work was full of caring and passion. I am happy that Jazzdog revealed his gender. I will reiterate to anyone who ascribes to me more than what I write concerning Jazzdog: I enjoy reading Jazzdog's posts. Whether I agree with Jazzdog or not, his writing is a little disjointed, but overall an enjoyable read. MIKE P.S. DAWN: I love women. Every aspect of a woman, even when I am asleep I dream of women. I am very preoccupied with My BEST friend, life mate, beautiful wife, who makes my life worth living.
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Post by DawnDay on Oct 9, 2009 3:25:14 GMT -5
read this and see what you think www.wnd.com/?pageId=112098This is much more of a problem then you all think. the wheels are in motion to oust the usa from world power and to kill and replace the dollar as the major world currency, not only this but the makings of our civil war is on the horizon. while we all sit at home and watch and read what is appropriate for us in order for us to be be as blind to the fact as possible. I mean it i am not an alarmist, but this is progressing rather rapidly and if not caught NOW it will be to late. check the house bills check whats going on in washington and local governments as we speak. this is nothing to sit and say "OH WHATEVER" i can no longer listen to these people who follow our "president" GOOGLE this subject, do your own research/educate yourself. www.kulr8.com/news/local/59284497.htmlthis is going on right now. Jimmy, you should know about this. you have the first hand by living there, and you are very knowledgeable. have you a opinion on this? this is policing w/o being appointed by the people. AGAINST THE LAW. this is just a testing ground for a much bigger plan to cripple the usa with marshall law en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law. I am asking that people stop putting faith in our government and officals, and pu the faith in yourself and educating yourself and everyone around you. This sounds far fetched. but if you research just a little bit you will find out that the agenda is grim, and for us as a native people may be our last days. you worry about if the guy is eligible for office? wonder who he works for...... it;s not us..!!! we need to act and pull together as a united force against this "Bloodless coup" Again i hate to be "this guy" but my view of this subject has been turned on it's head. and it is already to late to WoW,Wtf? it's time to say ok, "I" Will make a difference and "I" will do my part to not let this happen to the things "I" love the most in this world. <-----Mathew-----> MATTHEW, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN RECEIVING SOME OF THE SAME RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA EMAILS, TRYING TO SCARE EVERYONE HALF TO DEATH. I JUST WONDER WHAT DO THEY EXPECT PEOPLE TO DO ABOUT IT, RUN AROUND LIKE CHICKEN LITTLE, SAYING THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING. OTHER THAN SCARING PEOPLE WITH ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN. WELL, I PUT IT ON THE LINE -- BY EMAILING THE WHITEHOUSE.GOV, AS I TOLD THE REST OF MY FRIENDS TO DO AND COMPLAINED AS TO WHAT SOME OF MY FRIENDS AND RELATIVES WERE EMAILING ME ABOUT. WELL, TO MY SURPRISE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE, MY DAUGHTER AND MYSELF (Same household) WERE BOTH AUDITED BY THE IRS. AND WITHIN A MONTH PERIOD OF TIME I GOT TWO VISITS FROM THE UNITED STATES CENSUS BUREAU, ANOTHER FIRST. I WOULDN'T ANSWER THE DOOR TO THE FIRST ONE, AND I TOLD HIM TO LEAVE THE PHONE NUMBER. BUT I CALLED THE US. CENSUS BUREAU MYSELF, WANTING TO KNOW WHY SOMEONE WAS DOING A CENSUS ON MYSELF AND DAUGHTER AND NO ONE ELSE AROUND ME, ON THE BLOCK. AND I WAS TOLD THAT THEY DID A CENSUS OF RANDOM NAMES. SO GIVING THE BENEFIT OF A DOUBT, I TOLD THEM I WOULD GIVE THEM MY INFORMATION OVER THE PHONE, AND DID SO. AND WITHIN ANOTHER TWO WEEKS GOT ANOTHER KNOCK ON THE DOOR ON A SUNDAY, THIS ONE WAS A WOMAN SAYING SHE WAS FROM THE CENSUS BUREAU. AND THIS ONE GOT AN EAR FULL FROM ME. I LATER STARTED THINKING (SHADES OF PARANOIA), WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN ALL THIS ATTENTION FROM GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. SO A WORD OF ADVISE, BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY. I USED TO MAKE JOKES OF "BIG BROTHER WATCHING", WELL I'M HERE TO TELL YOU. I AM BEING A BIT MORE CAREFUL, I FIGURE SAFETY IN NUMBERS. SO I AM PUTTING THIS OUT THERE AT THIS TIME. I AM THE ONE WHO STARTED "THE OBAMA OUR ONLY HOPE"--ON "OYATE", BECAUSE WE NEEDED A CHANGE. WELL, I AM NOT HAPPY AT THIS TIME. BUT WHAT CAN ONE PERSON DO. I'VE ALREADY FOUND OUT, GET YOURSELF IN TROUBLE. HOWEVER, SINCE I'VE NEVER BEEN ONE TO BE PUSHED DOWN. I WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE TO COMPLAIN, THAT IS MY RIGHT IS IT NOT. MUCH TO MY DAUGHTER'S CHAGRIN, SHE DID NOT LIKE BEING AUDITED. TOTALLY AUDITED, RENE'E DAWNDAY
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Mathew503
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Oct 9, 2009 14:57:26 GMT -5
Post by Mathew503 on Oct 9, 2009 14:57:26 GMT -5
Yes i have been hassled by the census bureau as well. and i'm not trying to scare or plant the seeds of doom. i am merely asking for people to do their own research. come to their own conclusions. there is very respectable people in the world who are saying things that are not encouraging. there are plans this moment to overthrow the u.s. dollar as the main trade unit. again not here to freak out about it but i do not believe in sitting idly by while bad things happen. PLEASE do your own research and see what is being hidden and distorted from the american public. Just remember, "our people" the native sioux . have been the target of genocide before. and "IF" things go as south as predicted, our people will be right in the crosshairs. sitting in the middle of the land without a way to stand up for ourselves. no way to fight. just being lined up and moved to a concentration camp.( fema emergency camp) guarded like a prison with no say-so. This is the age of the one world government. and it's not in the best interest of the people. the wheels are in motion, and the only way to change the direction of things is to make it right in washington. by: taking the puppets out of the picture. and by putting in people who are patriotic and will fight for "us" not fight for world domination. "World domination" This is generally frowned upon, is it not? this is why we and our allies fought so love hard to make sure the Nazis were torn from power in WWII. there is other examples of world domination, and it has never in history been "OK" with the peoples of the world. !! So........ Why the hell would it be "OK" for it to happen this time under the guise of freedom and the American flag. and all to be cast aside once the objective is met. I understand this has been a re-accuring problem in history. and they always say it is progress and best for the people. BUT NEVER UNDER THE AMERICAN FLAG.!!! I believe in caring for our own-protecting our own-and sticking to our own. this is not a cowardly way to govern. the only way we will correct our economy and strengthen our dollar status is to focus on our problems at hand. this starts in our own yard. cleaning house and getting the bankers rule out of our government. Andrew Jackson cared about this great nation, and he fought tooth and nail to keep the banks out of washington. This is one of the greatest men who ever served us. a true patriot . and ever since his departure the banks have ruled . And now our dollar is worthless and our reputation on the world stage has been reduced to a laughing stock. WHY YOU MAY ASK? Because the american public believes everything it is told by the "government".. and the american people are so easily fooled because of this trust in the government. it is time to stop the mr. nice guy act. it is time to correct this blemish in our history. all of the "voters" in this country vote between the top bidders, and the one with the best talk is voted in. this is B.S. vote for the guy who is not backed by money, vote for the guy who has a reputation for doing good. for once try casting your political party aside if it means voting for the right guy. GET THE BANKS AND CORPORATION OUT OF WASHINGTON. anyway, this is my views. I am crazy and open minded. try looking thru eyes of an outsider, one who is not coerced by the media and gov. propaganda. Remember that the whole nation of Germany was fooled into believing Hitlers agenda. and they backed him out of patriotism. and in the end was found to be in the wrong. who will be left to find us in the wrong? with all respect to you Rene'e and the rest of my family. <-----Mathew----->
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Oct 9, 2009 17:32:36 GMT -5
Post by Curtis Kitto "MIKE" on Oct 9, 2009 17:32:36 GMT -5
Dawn,
If you give respect you will get respect.
This is what I wrote to Jazzdog, "I do enjoy reading your posts. I regret that I could not figure out (thru your writing) that you are male, for that I ask your forgiveness."
Jazzdog's name is gender-neutural. His writing seemed to me to be "feminine." Could anyone figure out what Jazzdog's gender was just from his writing? Somehow, you misconstrued what I wrote. Then jumped to a wrong conclusion. So I do not see how I disrespected anyone, including you.
This is what you requested:
"AND WOULD ALSO LIKE SOMEONE TO SHOW US RESPECT WHEN REFERRING TO OUR GENDER."
Normally, I do not read what you write, because you are shouting (USING CAPS) all the time. I do not like "loud" people.
Now I will tell you with the greatest respect for your gender and ask that you respect my decision: "I am ignoring you, yet again."
MIKE
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Oct 10, 2009 0:56:00 GMT -5
Post by DawnDay on Oct 10, 2009 0:56:00 GMT -5
Dawn, If you give respect you will get respect. This is what I wrote to Jazzdog, "I do enjoy reading your posts. I regret that I could not figure out (thru your writing) that you are male, for that I ask your forgiveness." Jazzdog's name is gender-neutural. His writing seemed to me to be "feminine." Could anyone figure out what Jazzdog's gender was just from his writing? Somehow, you misconstrued what I wrote. Then jumped to a wrong conclusion. So I do not see how I disrespected anyone, including you. This is what you requested: "AND WOULD ALSO LIKE SOMEONE TO SHOW US RESPECT WHEN REFERRING TO OUR GENDER." Normally, I do not read what you write, because you are shouting (USING CAPS) all the time. I do not like "loud" people. Now I will tell you with the greatest respect for your gender and ask that you respect my decision: "I am ignoring you, yet again." MIKE [/quo;] CURTIS MICHAEL KITTO "MIKE", (wow!!! impressive) YOU SAID, YOU WELCOMED ANY AND ALL POSTS ON "OYATE", WELL I SPOKE MY MIND AND AS USUAL, YOU CHOOSE TO STRIKE OUT AT ME. I'VE NOTICE YOU TAKE WHAT THE MEN SAY TO YOU IN STRIDE. WITHOUT THE NEED TO BELITTLE THEM. MAYBE I DID. JUMP TO THE WRONG CONCLUSION, BUT IT DIDN'T FEEL THAT WAY TO ME WHEN I READ IT. SO I SPOKE WHAT I THOUGHT. AND YOU SAY YOU ARE IGNORING ME, YET ANOTHER TIME. WELL, WE BOTH KNOW THAT ISN'T TRUE. FROM OUR NUMEROUS PM DEBATES FROM THE PAST YEAR ON OBAMA. WHERE I THOUGHT I CAME OUT AHEAD. AND AS FAR AS MY USING CAPS, I AM NOT SHOUTING OUT, BUT IF I COULD MAKE THE CAPS BIGGER RIGHT NOW- BELIEVE ME I WOULD. I HAVE ALREADY APOLOGIZED FOR THE NEED TO USE CAPS. BECAUSE OF MY NEED TO HAVE CATARACT SURGERY ON BOTH OF MY EYES. CAPS MAKE IT EASIER TO SEE WHAT I JUST WROTE. I TRY, YOU SEE-- NOT TO MAKE ANY TYPING ERRORS. WHEN I RE-READ WHAT I JUST WROTE. I CERTAINLY HOPE THIS MADE YOU FEEL MORE OF A MAN. I'VE OFTEN OBSERVED MOST BULLIES OF ONE SORT OR ANOTHER DELIGHT IN MAKING SOMEONE ELSE FEEL LESS. THANKS YOU'VE ACHIEVED YOUR GOAL. BUT FOR ONLY ONE MOMENT. BUT NOT MY SPIRIT. DO YOU KNOW I WAS WARNED ABOUT SPEAKING MY MIND ON "OYATE" BY A CARING RELATIVE. THEY WERE AFRAID I WOULD GET STOMPED ON, AS THEY'VE SEEN OTHERS GET. BUT I THOUGHT I COULD ALSO SPEAK WHAT WAS ON MY MIND. IT IS CALLED "THE PEOPLE", AM I CORRECT. OR IS THIS YOUR VERY OWN PERSONAL SITE. YOU CAN BET AFTER OUR PEOPLE READ YOUR ADMONISHMENT TO ME-- THEY WILL BE EVEN MORE SHY TO WRITE ANY POSTS. AS MANY READ, BUT DON'T WANT TO CONTRIBUTE. FOR FEAR OF BEING HUMILIATED... NOW I KNOW WHAT THE WARNING MEAN'T. I THOUGHT THIS WAS A PLACE WHERE AMERICAN INDIANS COULD SPEAK OR ASK QUESTIONS TO EACH OTHER. I BELIEVE THAT IS CALLED A DEMOCRACY. BY THE WAY JAZZDOG SAID HE WAS A MALE NOT FEMALE ON HIS MEMBERSHIP PROFILE, DIDN'T YOU BELIEVE HIM. NOT SO RESPECTFUL, DAWNDAY
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Oct 10, 2009 12:16:25 GMT -5
Post by Jimmy on Oct 10, 2009 12:16:25 GMT -5
We all have the right to say what we want on this forum, but we also all have the responsibility to speak in a civil manner to each other. Uncle Mike, Your apology rings a little hollow when we all know that on every single post Jazzdog has posted since he joined 3 and half years ago, it says he is male. Here is a picture: img210.imageshack.us/i/clipboard03e.jpg/You can't claim you didn't know, because you set your own profile on male, and know it is there. img210.imageshack.us/i/clipboard04t.jpg/Many of us disagree with each other, but being rude does not help the matter. Rudeness and petty insults drives people away from the boards or makes them afraid to post. Unless your intention is to kill the Oyate message board, I would suggest that you and everbody else tone it down a little. Everyone should feel free to express themselves or disagree with somebody's post, but we all need to do it in such a way that we are being civil and not insulting each other. Otherwise, people won't want to come here anymore.
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Oct 10, 2009 12:23:56 GMT -5
Post by Jimmy on Oct 10, 2009 12:23:56 GMT -5
Andrew Jackson cared about this great nation, and he fought tooth and nail to keep the banks out of washington. This is one of the greatest men who ever served us. a true patriot . I'm not sure you want to be singing Andrew Jackson's praises on an Indian message board. Jackson is responsible for the 1830 Indian Removal Act which forced the Trail of Tears and many other atrocities towards Indians. Jackson is no hero or patriot to Indians, in fact, he is the exact opposite.
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Oct 11, 2009 18:56:56 GMT -5
Post by Curtis Kitto "MIKE" on Oct 11, 2009 18:56:56 GMT -5
Taitz Requests Judicial Notice on Individuals Rights’ Fraud Posted on October 12th, 2009 by David-Crockett
The Post & Email published:
ARGUES FROM FEDERAL STATUTE IN RICO CASES by John Charlton
(Oct. 11, 2009) — Attorney Orly Taitz, esq. has filed a Request for Judicial Notice in the case Captain Pamela Barnett et al. vs. Barack Hussein Obama et al., which is being heard by Judge David O. Carter, in the Federal District Court at Santa Ana, California. Judge Carter was featured by the Post & Email yesterday in a Spotlight Report.
The filing requests the Court’s recognition of the arguments concerning standing in cases wherein racketeering & fraud is involved. Dr. Taitz, lead counsel for the Plaintiffs, argues thus:
The Plaintiffs have repeatedly alleged that the election of 2008 was procured by fraud. Acquisition of high public office by and through implementation of a scheme to defraud regarding material facts regarding a candidate’s qualifications and identity is a species of public sector fraud. Such a scheme to defraud is actionable by private parties under 18 U.S.C. §1346, in that each instance of the use of interstate wires or mail delivery facilities counts as an individual predicate act under Civil R.I.C.O., 18 U.S.C. §§1961, 1962(a)-(d), and 1964(c).
She then requests Judge Carter to take note of the application of §1346 to the case Barnett vs. Obama:
Plaintiffs request the Court to take note that the United States Congress’ express purpose in enacting 18 U.S.C. §1346 was to ensure that corruption by both (even paired) public and private sector defendants’ (such as Defendants Barack and Michelle Obama were from the Illinois Senatorial Election 2004-up-through January 20, 2009) individualized damages were not required to obtain convictions under 18 U.S.C. §1346. It logically follows that Civil RICO actions relating to public and private sector corruption which would utilize predicate acts of criminal violations of 18 U.S.C. §1346 could likewise be brought without proof of individualized damages or “standing” in the civil sense. Plaintiffs accordingly submit that the principles of prosecutions of public corruption based on 18 U.S.C. §1346 be applied to evaluate the standing of the Plaintiffs in the present above-entitled-and-numbered case Barnett v. Obama.
She concludes by making this request to the Court:
WHEREFORE, Plaintiffs request that this Honorable Court take Judicial Notice of the doctrine of the people’s intangible right to honest services based on 18 U.S.C. §1346, and consider the significance for the standing of the people to bring suit under Civil RICO (18 U.S.C. §1964(c)), that the criminal predicate acts for RICO which may be substantiated under this title do not require specific personalized injury to business or property interests. Accordingly, the people of the United States may sue for Civil RICO for the fraudulent denial of their intangible right to honest services without showing individualized specific injury, and this case should be allowed to go forward, albeit with Plaintiffs’ Second Amended Complaint allowed to be filed, and considered as a fundamental (complementary) element of citizen standing.
The purpose of this filing is to bolster the claim of the Plaintiffs to standing, which is the issue presently under the Court’s consideration, as Judge Carter decides on the Motion to Dismiss, presented by acting Attorney General George S. Cardona, lead counsel for the Defense.
Carter’s decision on the Motion to Dismiss is expected shortly. The Post & Email had reported that the Minute Order fixing the dates for the trial, issued last week, indicated that Carter would in part deny the Motion and recognize the standing of at least some plaintiffs in the case. This is consistent with Judge Carter’s many statements in court, that the case will go forward. That report spoke of the Judge’s “decision” in the sense of his state of mind; his formal court order publishing his decision has yet to be issued.
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Mathew503
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Oct 12, 2009 0:02:45 GMT -5
Post by Mathew503 on Oct 12, 2009 0:02:45 GMT -5
Well, i am very sorry for the oversight. but it was merely a example on the subject. and with that said i will tap out and excuse myself from this conversation. good day gentlemen.
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Oct 16, 2009 0:06:22 GMT -5
Post by tfeleht2 on Oct 16, 2009 0:06:22 GMT -5
Judge lands hard on Orly Taitz, Esq. It’ll cost her $20,000 11:25 am October 13, 2009, by Jay
U.S. District Court Judge Clay Land, in Columbus, has come down hard on birther attorney Orly Taitz, fining her $20,000 for willfully abusing her right to practice law. I suspect Taitz won’t have that right much longer. (h/t Washington Independent)
“The Court finds that counsel’s conduct was willful and not merely negligent. It demonstrates bad faith on her part. As an attorney, she is deemed to have known better. She owed a duty to follow the rules and to respect the Court. Counsel’s pattern of conduct conclusively establishes that she did not mistakenly violate a provision of law. She knowingly violated Rule 11. Her response to the Court’s show cause order is breathtaking in its arrogance and borders on delusional.”
My only quibble with the good judge is his use of the phrase “borders on delusional.” This is the full Monty of delusion, and I suppose the poor, deluded fools who support this woman will rush to defray her fine.
Meanwhile, the judge’s 43-page opinion is available below for those who care to entertain themselves.
Gov.uscourts.gamd.77605.28.0
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Oct 16, 2009 15:55:27 GMT -5
Post by Curtis Kitto "MIKE" on Oct 16, 2009 15:55:27 GMT -5
therightsideoflife.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Kenyan-born Obama OH YEAH. I remember going on a Raccoon hunting trip on cold winter nights with (deceased) Joe Fritz and his pack of coon hounds. When we would reach a likely place along the Bazile Creek, Joe would let the dogs out of the back of his pickup truck and the dogs would run into the woods. We would drink a cup of hot coffee, smoke a cigarette, and listen to the excited voices of the dogs as they picked up the scent of a raccoon. We would listen - following the sounds of the baying hounds, until the baying sounds settled in one place. Then we would walk to the tree where the dogs were barking. Shining a light upwards we could see the masked face of the raccoon as he hugged the tree. Then, a shot from the .22 would ring out and the raccoon's body would fall to the ground. (We would let the dogs momentarily attack the body.) We would then pick the raccoon body up and head home. I think we got 5.00 for the pelt. The analogy: Obummer is high in the tree, the dogs are on his trail. It will not be long before the hunters arrive. MIKE
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Oct 16, 2009 22:54:40 GMT -5
Post by tfeleht2 on Oct 16, 2009 22:54:40 GMT -5
Mike: You not only are sexist but racist as well. Your analogy/story used the racial equivalent of the "N" word with the other racially sensitive "C" word towards President Obama. Think about what you write before you write then maybe you'll have a chance to reflect on your negativity to our nation's leader. Native Americans generally are not taught to feel their race is superior to others, but Mike you have a complete disgust for President Obama that borders on the edge of insane jealousy against a man that has the intellect and charisma to lead us all.
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Oct 17, 2009 8:16:38 GMT -5
Post by tfeleht2 on Oct 17, 2009 8:16:38 GMT -5
If you would actually read what U.S. District Court Judge Clay Land wrote in that 43 page opinion you would find out that this Attorney and the Birther movement will not be able to challenge what they are professing in the judicial system. The only way to remove a President of the United States from office is through Congress or through the ballot box (polls).
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Oct 19, 2009 2:41:49 GMT -5
Post by jazzdog on Oct 19, 2009 2:41:49 GMT -5
Oyate
can I set this insane notion to rest about gender? Dawnday, there is no way in hell that I never breathe a day that I do not respect my mother's gender as the gender that is the overall bearing and nuturing gender of our survival as a human species.
If there is some person out there that is trying to inaccuractuately portray my honest belief struture, I will confront them. I am a male and I love females, and that females are just as influential in our lives as the Great Spirit intended and has foretold........ If my previous posts have been too "caring and compassionate" to be considered coming from a male human, then maybe some of our population needs to reexamine where we are as a society.
I wish that the loving and caring people on THIS site, will see through the nontruths (#@$%$#&*%$#@'s) that occur from time to time. The OBUMMER topic was just something that I felt compelled to confront headon, agressively, as it needed to be adressed. The originator of that post has responded in his own way as it lends to the topic. I cannot control that person's beliefs nor his rationale. He tried to demean me by attempting to classify me as female, despite the fact that he likely knew me to be male.....this is why the response to his absurd charges were warranted as to the gender thing......it was never anything of a matter of respect, on my behalf...........but, unwittingly, it may have become an issue for my accuser, when he has so prominently stated that he thought I was female because what I wrote was so "caring and compassionate"............
So, I write with a purpose to try to refocus our purpose and drive to what really matters to those of us on this site who are serious. Let's get back to what unites us as peoples......and not the topics that divide us.
The less true intents of the overall purpose will be revealed in the truthful end.
I apologize to Curtis for being so caring and compassionate....maybe I can take some kind of rightwing course that might expunge me of those values......
Your friend
Jazzdog
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Oct 19, 2009 12:43:57 GMT -5
Post by DawnDay on Oct 19, 2009 12:43:57 GMT -5
Jazzdog,
Imagine my happiness to sit down with my cup of coffee, and read me being reamed by someone who I greatly admire. To be honest I'd mean't to delete the entire post, especially including you when it was mean't for Mike. But it was so long ago, I'd forgotten. I thought it mean't an insult to a female. I must have been wrong on all counts. But God forgive me, for I say what I think. I will end this, before I say something else to offend. Enough said, on that point.
I do entirely agree that we as a people, should not show how divided we are on this site. Because if there are other people watching our posts, it would make them happy, would it not. If I sound paranoid I have reason, as a youngster I felt a need to fight for the rights of the AIM people, and went from area to area to get names on petitions for the release from jail of those caught up in the system. I guess it is better to sit back and observe, but I've always been outspoken, and guess I will always be. We only live once, and I would like to have made a mark that I'd been here and made some difference for the good.
It is my opinion, but I think if we have something as a personal nature to say to each other, it might be better to do it in a personal message, from now on. As I think that is what pm's are mean't for.
My interest is for the young people on our reservations and on "Oyate", we should be setting an example, not feuding amongst ourselves. And I one of the fore mentioned. For myself, I am sorry for taking anything said on here, personally. Unfortunately, I was raised to have to fight for myself, and it peaks its ugly head out from time to time. As my daughter and I do not choose to live that way. We find things to laugh about, with a good sense of humor, not fight about. But will defend each other or ourselves when necessary.
It is true, whatever is said no matter how many words that are used. It matters not, because what will happen will happen in the end. We have given our opinions and we each know where we each stand -- with Obama or not. Our young people are needing something to look forward to, not negativity in all directions.
It would be great for us to use "Oyate" not just for genealogy in what was the past, but also for something for the future of our people. If each Tribe could use this site, to say what good is happening for their people. And if not, to give the case and maybe the influential ones on this site might try to help them in some manner. I was told that most Indians are taught by their grandmothers to be respectful, I did not get that. Only how to fight for myself, I am trying to learn to be more respectful of others, but I think it is not something to be demanded, but to be earned. i will now get my foot out of my mouth, and say.
Respectfully,
Dawnday
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OBUMMER
Oct 20, 2009 14:58:14 GMT -5
Post by DawnDay on Oct 20, 2009 14:58:14 GMT -5
Oyate can I set this insane notion to rest about gender? Dawnday, there is no way in hell that I never breathe a day that I do not respect my mother's gender as the gender that is the overall bearing and nuturing gender of our survival as a human species. If there is some person out there that is trying to inaccuractuately portray my honest belief struture, I will confront them. I am a male and I love females, and that females are just as influential in our lives as the Great Spirit intended and has foretold........ If my previous posts have been too "caring and compassionate" to be considered coming from a male human, then maybe some of our population needs to reexamine where we are as a society. I wish that the loving and caring people on THIS site, will see through the nontruths (#@$%$#&*%$#@'s) that occur from time to time. The OBUMMER topic was just something that I felt compelled to confront headon, agressively, as it needed to be adressed. The originator of that post has responded in his own way as it lends to the topic. I cannot control that person's beliefs nor his rationale. He tried to demean me by attempting to classify me as female, despite the fact that he likely knew me to be male.....this is why the response to his absurd charges were warranted as to the gender thing......it was never anything of a matter of respect, on my behalf...........but, unwittingly, it may have become an issue for my accuser, when he has so prominently stated that he thought I was female because what I wrote was so "caring and compassionate"............ So, I write with a purpose to try to refocus our purpose and drive to what really matters to those of us on this site who are serious. Let's get back to what unites us as peoples......and not the topics that divide us. The less true intents of the overall purpose will be revealed in the truthful end. I apologize to Curtis for being so caring and compassionate....maybe I can take some kind of rightwing course that might expunge me of those values...... Your friend Jazzdog Jazzdog, Thank you for your kind words and understanding on our pm's, yesterday. It certainly helped clear the air for us. And with all respect and admiration, Dawnday
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OBUMMER
Oct 27, 2009 9:09:55 GMT -5
Post by cantewaste on Oct 27, 2009 9:09:55 GMT -5
To "Jazzdog",
Just for the record, not all of the members of this board are idiots. Reading your old posts, it took me all of 5 minutes to figure out who you are. (Mr. Hotshot Wolfchild Lawyer) I find it utterly disgusting that you would come here for YEARS duping these people out of their records and information while PRETENDING to be one of them. ("I'm no expert, but....") Shame on you! I know for a fact that you have spent a good deal of time trying to pry information out of the Oyate regarding Gary Montana's handling of the case. Why didn't you just call him and ask? At least when Mr. Montana came here he had the decency to identify himself. If you desire to remain anonymous, it is probably not a good idea to post all your personal info. Anyone could Google your email address or mailing address and find out just exactly who you really are, just from this one post-
jazzdog sez- "Jamie
there are at least two active websites which are up and active on the issue of saving Bear Butte......matopaha.org and defendbearbutte.org......... also, I could personally deliver comments to the Meade County (SD) Commission on this issue if any interested brothers and sisters wanted to email me at zephrl@rushmore.com or to send it to me at P.O. Box 9460, Rapid City, SD 57709. thanks for all the interest and helpful thoughts.
Jazzdog"
Oyate- beware of wolves in sheep's clothing.
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