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Post by Curtis Kitto "MIKE" on Jan 20, 2008 19:49:10 GMT -5
"On July 19, 1889, a daughter, Mary Myrick (HINMAN), was born, his eighth child. He did not live to see the completion of this, his fourteenth Church, as though in vigorous health, he was stricken with pneumonia and entered into rest on March 24, 1890, at the age of 51 years."
Same reference as above page 4 - CMK
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Post by peacekeeper on Jan 20, 2008 19:58:22 GMT -5
Reverend Hinman's first wife I believe is buried at Santee, Nebraska. Mary Myrick Hinman was also the daughter of Nancy Myrick Wakute Wapaha. A few years back the Minnesota Newspaper, The Pioneer Press had this famly included in the articles. It was very interesting and informative.
Jackie
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 20, 2008 23:14:55 GMT -5
the only question I have is whereis your documentationfor the parents of Nancy Sttone? My records give her mother as Julia Stone and Wakanhdipeta(Re. Rootzsweb.com world Connet Project.) furthermore, nancy Stone had a sister elizabeth who died young, and a brother who died @1862-63
correctioon: I apologize for my goof., re. Nancy Myrick's siblings. Here is the correct information: Nancy Stone-Myrick-Wakute Wapaha had a brother who died @ 1862-1863. Nancy and Andrew Myrick had 2 daughters: Elizabeth , born @ 1860, who died young,and Mary Myrick born 1862 at Birch Cooley,Renville ,MN. mary was the wife of Rev. S.D. Hinman then Daniel Westerman,then George Taylor, then John M. Green.
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Post by BIG JON on Jan 21, 2008 2:36:48 GMT -5
the only question I have is whereis your documentationfor the parents of Nancy Sttone? My records give her mother as Julia Stone and Wakanhdipeta(Re. Rootzsweb.com world Connet Project.) furthermore, nancy Stone had a sister elizabeth who died young, and a brother who died @1862-63 I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE STONE PART ALSO...AND THIS IS WHAT I CAME UP WITH FROM MY PREVIOUS POST: IN 1843 NANCY WAKUTE IS BORN TO HEPANWASTE AND HARPIKASNASNAWIN (BAPTISED MENDOTA 1863) MARPIYASNASNAWIN-SPOTTED CLOUD/SKY WOMAN(AGAIN AND AGAIN CLOUDS) HEPANWASTE-SECOND BORN GOOD SON... ANYBODY KNOW THESE PEOPLE?...STILL NOT SURE ABOUT THE MAGGIE BRASS CONNECTION(BUT I KNOW THEIR RELATED)... IN THE BEGINNING I NOTED: -------------------------------------------------------- IN 1843 JOHN B. WAPAHA IS BORN TO IYAHINHDA(IYA-TALKS ABOUT HINHDA-THROWING HAIR AROUND(AS IN SACREDLY) AND TAHAZA(HER HUCKLEBERRY)(WABASHA MN.) IN 1843 NANCY WAKUTE IS BORN TO HEPANWASTE AND HARPIKASNASNAWIN (BAPTISED MENDOTA 1863) IN 1860 NANCY WIYANGIWIN AND ANDREW MYRICK HAVE MARY MYRICK(IN REDWOOD FALLS MN.) IN 1863 GEORGE CASKE LAWRENCE(GOODTHUNDER) IS BORN TO LORENZO LAWRENCE AND LOUISE HANYETUWASTEWIN(IN CROW CREEK!) IN 1864 NANCY WAPAHA HAS A DAUGHTER NAMED SARAH (IN CROW CREEK)(SARAH MARRIED EUGENE HOFFMAN AND HAD MANY CHILDREN)(WITNESSED BY GEORGE GOODTHUNDER(LAWRENCE) IN 1867 MAGGIE JEWETT IS BORN TO LOUIS JEWETT AND NANCY WAPAHA IN 1872 NANCY WAPAHA AND LOUIS JEWETT HAD A SON-JOHN JEWETT IN 1874 DANIEL WESTERMAN IS BORN TO H. WESTERMAN AND LOUISE HANYETUWASTEWIN(GEORGE LAWRENCE IS HALF BROTHER OF DANIEL WESTERMAN-SAME MOM) IN 1889 MARY MYRICK AND REV. S.A. HINMAN HAVE A DAUGHTER MARY HINMAN IN 1892 MARY HINMAN AND DANIEL WESTERMAN HAVE A SON-FRANCIS WESTERMAN IN 1894 GUY LAWRENCE(MY GREAT GRAMPA) IS BORN TO GEORGE LAWRENCE AND MAGGIE JEWETT(WITH MANY BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN 1896 MARY MYRICK AND DANIEL WESTERMAN HAVE FRANCIS WESTERMAN(AND CONTINUE TO HAVE WESTERMAN KIDS TILL 1904) IN 1898 JOHN JEWETT AND LULU BRASS HAVE A DAUGHTER-EMILY(NOTICE THAT MAGGIE LAWRENCE IS A WITNESS) AND THE UNKNOWN JEWETTS ARE RELATED BECAUSE I SEE GEORGE LAWRENCE AS WITNESS...I WILL MAKE UP A FAMILY TREE SO IT IS ALL MORE VISIBLE THE NANCY'S ARE ALL THE SAME PERSON... --------------------------------------------------------------- JON
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Post by Curtis Kitto "MIKE" on Jan 21, 2008 8:08:20 GMT -5
"IN 1889 MARY MYRICK AND REV. S.A. HINMAN HAVE A DAUGHTER MARY HINMAN
IN 1892 MARY HINMAN AND DANIEL WESTERMAN HAVE A SON-FRANCIS WESTERMAN
IN 1896 MARY MYRICK AND DANIEL WESTERMAN HAVE FRANCIS WESTERMAN(AND CONTINUE TO HAVE WESTERMAN KIDS TILL 1904)"
Jon,
This is the part of your story that I had trouble with. I now believe that the Mary Hinman person was Mary Myrick Hinman, the wife of deceased Samuel Hinman who married Daniel Westerman! (Not the daughter of Samuel Hinman, "Mary Myrick Hinman,") Using the same reference as I did above (in part): "...he (Samuel Hinman) was stricken with pneumonia and entered into rest on March 24, 1890, at the age of 51 years."
Quoting your post: "IN 1892 MARY HINMAN AND DANIEL WESTERMAN HAVE A SON-FRANCIS WESTERMAN."
I now believe that Mary Myrick Hinman grieved for a year and remarried Daniel Westerman. Then, "(AND CONTINUE TO HAVE WESTERMAN KIDS TILL 1904)." They are descendants of Daniel Westerman and Mary Myrick Hinman Westerman.
MIKE
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Post by Curtis Kitto "MIKE" on Jan 21, 2008 8:40:47 GMT -5
"IN 1843 NANCY WAKUTE IS BORN TO HEPANWASTE AND HARPIKASNASNAWIN (BAPTISED MENDOTA 1863)
IN 1860 NANCY WIYANGIWIN AND ANDREW MYRICK HAVE MARY MYRICK(IN REDWOOD FALLS MN.)
IN 1889 MARY MYRICK AND REV. S.A. HINMAN HAVE A DAUGHTER MARY HINMAN."
Using the same reference as I did above (in part):
I agree with Hermin1.
Quoting Mary Myrick Hinman LaCroix (page 4):
"My great-Grandmother’s name was Julia Stone, and my Grandmother’s name was Nancy."
MIKE
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 21, 2008 10:39:19 GMT -5
BIG JON: you still have not provided documentation for your statement re. nancy myrick's parents. The person who posted the Myrick tree at rootsweb was a Myrick descendent and he has docemented hhis information.
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Post by BIG JON on Jan 21, 2008 12:34:04 GMT -5
HEY GUYS!...I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE IT ALL OUT MYSELF... MIKE:This is the part of your story(MY STORY?) that I had trouble with. I now believe that the Mary Hinman person was Mary Myrick Hinman, the wife of deceased Samuel Hinman who married Daniel Westerman! (Not the daughter of Samuel Hinman) YES MIKE, I AGREE, MARY (MYRICK)-HINMAN(1) MARRIED DANIEL WESTERMAN...SHOWS HERE: AND HERE: MIKE:Using the same reference as I did above (LACROIX BOOK):I agree with Hermin1. Quoting Mary Myrick Hinman LaCroix (page 4):"My great-Grandmother’s name was Julia Stone, and my Grandmother’s name was Nancy." JULIA STONE-WHATS HER INDIAN NAME?...COULD IT BE MARPIYASNASNAWIN?...AS SHOWN HERE: SO ACCORDING TO THIS QUOTE THE LINE GOES LIKE THIS JULIA STONE NANCY WIYANGEWIN MARY MYRICK HINMAN(1) MARY MYRICK HINMAN LACROIX(2) ____________________________________________ BIG JON: you still have not provided documentation for your statement re. nancy myrick's parents. The person who posted the Myrick tree at rootsweb was a Myrick descendent and he has documented this information. DO YOU MEAN FROM HERE?: worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bassosioux&id=I67I NOTE THAT AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE IT SAYS THIS: There are great discrepancies of names and dates between Indian Registers, Federal census, birth-marriage-death documents and family members' data. I can't reconcile these, so there are a lot of guesses here. I'm looking for further, or better, information on all families. -HMMM! AND THIS IS HIS DOCUMENTATION: From the registers of the Episcopal Diocese of SD. Santee Agency Baptism Register, pp. 328-329 list Nancy (Wakute) Wapaha as being born 1843 (no location) and baptised 1863 in Mendota, MN. Parents as Hepanwaste and Horpikaswasnawin. S. D. HINMAN is listed as the officiating minister. AND HIS OTHER DOCUMENTATION: On John and Nancy's marriage license her parents are shown as Hapawatet and Ho-opt-ten-sna-Ru??-win (as near as I can make out.)... HAPAWATET=HAPANWASTE I SEE: HO-RPT-TEA-SNA-RUA-WIN=MARPIYASNASNAWIN FROM HERE: EITHER ITS A MISSPELLING OR MISREADING OR MISPRONUNCIATION-ITS STILL GOOD(OR POSSIBLY ANOTHER NAME/SPELLING OF HER NAME) SO IN THE END, IF MARPIYASNASNAWIN=JULIA STONE IT ALL WORKS OUT?(ITS WHAT THE GUY AT GENWEB SAYS TOO)...JUST THE DATES ARE ALL SCREWED UP...AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT SAYS THAT THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE... OH AND LETS NOT FORGET THIS DOC: SAYS MARY WESTERMAN PARENTS NAMES ARE ANDREW MYRICK AND MAGGIE WAKUTA.... (IS THIS ANOTHER NAME FOR NANCY? OR WHO IS THIS?) AND WHAT ABOUT THIS DOCUMENT?: SAYS MARY MYRICK DAUGHTER OF NANCY ROBERTSON( ) AND ANDREW MYRICK...WHAT IS THE ROBERTSON LINK? BIG JON
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 21, 2008 13:59:57 GMT -5
BIGJON: I stand corrected. I was half asleep when I red the posts you made this morning. I will gostand in thec orner and watchsome TV with Tamara's remote.
I don't know how toresolve this puzzle.Onthe one hand we have theBaptismal record for Nancy, and then there isthe posted treeat rootsweb.com from one of the Myrick descendents. does anyone have any suggestions that could help us with this?
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Post by sunshine on Jan 22, 2008 0:18:37 GMT -5
I do not mean to intrude on a family conversation. However, as long as the Stone family is being discussed, may I please ask anyone who has Stones in their family tree to see if they have a Wasuhdega? His English last name was Stone, but there was no English first name listed. He is the husband of my Martha Stone(Hapstin) -(1822-1889). Hermin tells me that his name translates to making Stone or Hail. He is alleged to have died in 1856-7. I have hunted through all of the annuity lists and have not been able to find him. I believe that he was in the Wabasha Band at that time.
In attempting to find him, I have found 2-3 Nancy Stones, Alice Stone and many Martha Stones. There is the one in the currently discussed line, there is the Martha Cloud that married Charlie Minnetonka Stone, there is the one that is the daughter to Wakandhitanka Ben. None of these Marthas fit our information as ours received her Stone name by marriage, then giving birth to Charles Stone, John Stone, Duncan Stone and later Louise Blackstone( said to be Bluestone rather than Blackstone) Godfrey by David(Owancanduta) Weston in 1864, Crow Creek. Many thanks, Sunshine
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 22, 2008 11:21:35 GMT -5
BIGJON: I apologize for asking you for the documentation re. ancy Myrick'sparents, I was half awake when I read your postings on this topic. Please forgive my goof. to add to the confusion, the 1902 Register Santee indian Families lists the followin information on John B. Wapaha and wife Nancy Wapaha aka winyangiwin: #916: Wapaha John B. Wapaha Age 55 full Blood Husband parents: iahinhda and Tahaza both dead #917 Winyangiwin Nancy Myrick Age56 Full Blood wife parents: Wakanhdipeta and Hohpiksanasnawin both dead. I would upload the images from this census but I don't have the ability to do so. if you have a copyof the 1902 ,check it out . As for the document you posted, I did not see this Marpiyasnasnawin, and I used a magnifying glasss. I agree it may be a mis-spelling. the crux is that this information on the 1902 above ,which is a govt. record,agrees with information that I mentioned earlierabout the tree posted by the Myrick descendent at www.rootsweb.comI also heard about Nancy using the name Nancy robertson, but no ne has been able to find any marriage record for her. with all the dsicrepancies in the documents you have posted, which are ndeed official also, posted, I amleery that the court will throw the whole family tree out.
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Post by BIG JON on Jan 22, 2008 13:08:15 GMT -5
OH AND LETS NOT FORGET THIS DOC: SAYS MARY WESTERMAN PARENTS NAMES ARE ANDREW MYRICK AND MAGGIE WAKUTA.... (IS THIS ANOTHER NAME FOR NANCY? OR WHO IS THIS?)...HMMM!
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 22, 2008 18:12:02 GMT -5
Re. the marriage certificate for Westerman and Mary Hinman , Maggy Wakuta may be Maggie jewett ,d/o Nancy MyrickWakute and Louis Jewett. AS To why her name appears on the marriage certificateisa puzzle.
Re. the Marriage record for Samuel D. Hinman and Mary Myrick, they were married in 1884 at Springfield, D.T. by the Rev. Charles Secombe. Ref. : An Overview of the life of Reverend Samuel Dutton Hinman. Mary Myrick Hinman LaCroix narrator, Betty Paukert Derrick Interviewer. 1998.MInn.Hist. Soc. pages 3-4. I am puzled by the discrepancies.
What would really help clear things up iis a copy of the Heirship Report on Nancy Stone Myrick Wakute Wapaha.
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Post by santee1954 on Jan 22, 2008 20:20:06 GMT -5
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Post by hermin1 on Feb 4, 2008 10:39:24 GMT -5
bigJon and other fellow researchers: I must explain why I keep referring to Nancy Winyangewin aka Myrick-Wakute-Wapaha as Nancy Stone.(for her maiden name).I assumed that because her mother's english surname was Stone, that Nancy would also have this as a surname. I apologize for my supidity in this goof. One bit of information I miahgt add is that Julia stone was a sibling of Samuel stone, as was nancy Marpiyawastewin, according to testmony at nancy marpiyawastewin probate hearing.
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Post by bruledude04 on Oct 14, 2008 20:59:28 GMT -5
hermin, what about nancy claywalker, (snawin) who's daughter d Daywoman, who was supposedly married to a Stone, she inherited a stepson named John Stone, is this one in same? I'm puzzled. bruledude04
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Post by hermin1 on Oct 15, 2008 11:01:04 GMT -5
bruledude: No they are not the same nancy.
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Post by csandifer on Dec 15, 2010 13:49:55 GMT -5
My mother is Mary Myrick Hinman LaCroix's daughter who's mother was Mary Hinman who's mother was Nancy who's mother was Julia Stone... so many people have believed there were no survivors after the uprise happened...in MN but it is incorrect...Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee...authors ..Dee had to make corrections after they interviewed my grandmother......any other questions ..or if you'd like photos...of Julie-Nancy-Mary-Mary...or the grandfathers...please contact us ........!!!
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Post by hermin1 on Dec 30, 2010 12:06:08 GMT -5
sara: I'm sorry but I don't know about him having two sons who went to Canada. What is your reference for this information?
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Post by hermin1 on Jan 24, 2011 12:11:19 GMT -5
sorry.
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