dean
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Post by dean on Feb 25, 2008 16:55:33 GMT -5
All of this information is from the Ft.Peck Indian Census...
This is a follow up to Johnny Bruguier's married with children.
He was married to Josephine and had 3 daughters as of the 1895 Census:
Lulu - 14 years
Julia - 6
Ethel Blaine - 16 (is she Johnnie's 1st daughter or stepdaughter?)
After he was killed in 1898 Lulu and Julia are living with Johnnie's brother William. Fannie (Buckles) is listed as a sister.
On the 1899 Census she's listed as a niece.
Around 1900 Johnnie's daughter Lulu is married to a Charles Knorr.
On the 1904 Census she has two children:
Joseph - 5 years
Charles - 4
Below their names is Julia Bruguier - 18 years.
On the 1932 Census Julia is married to Albert S. Lone Warrior.
They have a daughter named Violet - 9 months old
Julia is using her maiden name, Julia Bruguier.
I haven't found anything on Ethel Blaine yet.
William Bruguier in 1888 Census he's married to Jennie - 27 years old. They have a son, Lewis - 2.
1899 he's still married to Jennie but no child is listed - probably died.
No more on him.
1891 William is married to Red String (Inkan Duta) 30 years old.
Could she and Jennie be the same woman for the ages are correct.
1895 William is married to Lydia (Lida) 20 years old.
1896 William is taking care of Fannie Buckles. If she was Johnnie's daughter she'd still be with him at that time 1896.
1898 William is taking care of Julia and Lulu - Johnnie's two daughters.
1899 - same
1908 William and Lida adopt Nellie - 6 years and Fred Ackman - 3 years (orphans)
Also on the 1892 Census there is a Batiste Bruguier who is 47 years with three children.
Do not know who this Bruguier is.
Does anyone know who he is???
Hope this helps to fill in some blanks.
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Post by Randy BruyereBruguier on Feb 25, 2008 20:05:23 GMT -5
Dean and Family,
Thank You for the recent emails and the conformation of your ancestor Johnnie "Big Leggins" Bruguier..
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Post by hermin1 on Feb 28, 2008 14:18:09 GMT -5
dean: You asked whowas the Bruguier witht the three children. He is Jean Baptiste Beuguire, s/o theophile and Blazing Dawn. (Reference; the family tree I found for Theophile Bruguier at www.rootswb 's World connect project link ). Jean Baptiste was born @1845. the tree only lists him as one tf the children.I subtracted his age in tht census to arrive at my estimate of his birth. |
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dean
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Post by dean on Feb 28, 2008 17:57:58 GMT -5
Hello Herman1
Thanks for the reply.
This Bruguier in Montana is listed as "Batice Bruguier" on the 1892 Ft.Peck Census and "Batiste Bruguier" on the 1893 Ft.Peck Census (born abt 1846).
Our history has that Theophile's son "Baptiste" died very young (family info).
This is probably correct because on the 1856 Iowa State Census
Theophile has all of his children with him, except for "Baptiste" and Victoria who wasn't born yet. Baptiste is not listed on the 1860 Federal Census.
I don't believe this "Batice / Batiste" is Theophile's son.
I read in Lar'penteur (sp) journals - there was another Bruguier up in that area - if he is related to Theophile I don't know. Perhaps this Batise could be from that line.
I apologize - I should have worded my question differently.
Dean
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Post by dean on Feb 28, 2008 18:07:38 GMT -5
Corrections on spelling on that last post...
Sorry Hermin1 - I spelled your name incorrectly and I spelled
"Batice" when it should be "Batise".
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Post by hermin1 on Feb 28, 2008 22:31:33 GMT -5
Fdean: No probkemmo. have you tried contacting the submitter of the tree for theophile Bruguier? she may have some information on if he had any siblings or other relatives.
You phrased your question just fine.
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Post by hermin1 on Feb 28, 2008 23:13:14 GMT -5
dean: you might also check out the Mixed blood listing for 1855-56 tht is in one of the sections of our website . i amsorry i don't remember which section. But theophile filed an affidavit in re. to the Half Breed tract sometime between 1855-1856, in which he lists his children.
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Post by BIG JON on Feb 29, 2008 2:50:00 GMT -5
    Johnny Brugiere also known as "Big Leggins" posed with his pet wolf, dressed in buckskins and cradling a Sharp's carbine. A cartridge belt visible at his waist. Bruguiere (1849-1898) was the son of a French father and Sioux mother. During the early 1870s he worked for his father freighting to posts on the upper Missouri. By 1875 he was a scout and interpreter posted at the Standing Rock Agency in Dakota Territory. In that same year he killed a man during a brawl and fled to the Black Hills where he lived with Sitting Bull and served as his "private secretary." After the battle of the Little Bighorn he served with Nelson Miles at Fort Peck, Montana, and, according to Miles was "the man to whom I am largely indebted for the success of my campaign against Crazy Horse and Sitting Bull." Miles hired him again in 1890 to serve as his personal interpreter during the Ghost Dance craze. He was later posted to an Indian Agency where he was killed by an unknown assailant.(see Thrapp, 1988, 3:181). |
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Post by Spirit of the Owl Woman on Mar 4, 2008 21:10:08 GMT -5
John Bruguier
(Big Leggins)
1849 – 1898
John Bruguier was the son of French Canadian fur Trader, Theophile Bruguier. His mother, Dawn (Anpao), was the daughter of War Eagle. Theophile was also the husband of Dawn’s sister, Fires the Cloud Woman, or Blazing Star. The sisters had thirteen children, seven of whom were sons.
Theophile wanted his children to learn the ways of the whiteman as well as those of the Indian. He sent his sons to be educated at the College of Christian Brothers in St. Louis, Missouri. Of the seven boys, John went to school the longest.
In his early twenties, John served as U.S. Army Scout and Interpreter for General Nelson A. Miles. He distinguished himself by earning one citation after another for bravery. The Yankton might have remained with the Army had he not been involved in a fight at Grand River Agency in 1874. His brother, Bill, was jumped by another Agency employee, William McGee. In his brother’s defense, John hit McGee over the head with a club. By morning, McGee was dead and Bill Bruguier was charged in connection with the killing. Even though John had disappeared, a charge of manslaughter was filed against him. A U.S. Marshall went out after the Interpreter, but lost his trail. Bruguier Sought refuge where he knew no whiteman would follow – in the camp of Sitting Bull.
He boldly rode into the Hunkpapa encampment wearing white man’s clothing. Angry warriors threatened the intruder, but they let him through. Sitting Bull may have recognized the grandson of War Eagle. He reportedly said to his men, “Well, if you are going to kill this man, kill him; and if you are not, give a drink of water, something to eat, and a pipe of peace to smoke.” John was spared.
Eventually, Bruguier became one of Sitting Bull’s trusted advisors. “Big Leggins,” as he was called was known for his “brave runs” – brazen dashes directly under enemy fire. But his personal acquaintance with Generals such as George Armstrong Custer proved far more important. He remained close to the Hunkpapa until after the Battle of the Little Bighorn. (Bruguiers whereabouts in the historic battle has not been fully documented by Custer historians.) Some years earlier, John may have been present during Custer’s show of force on the peaceful Yankton Reservation. As the arrogant General led the Seventh Cavalry through Greenwood, he ordered his men to shoot every dog in sight. Bullets shot past frightened women and children as they attempted to flee toward the hills.
Despite his hard feelings toward Custer, Bruguier rode into Fort Peck, Montana, with evidence of his good faith. He turned over a U.S. Army paycheck taken from a dead soldier on the Custer battlefield! General Miles sent for Bruguier when he learned of the Interpreter’s sudden appearance with the check. John met with Miles and no doubt the killing of McGee was discussed. Although the General knew the fearless Yankton was a hunted fugitive, he offered the scout his old job back.
On September 27, 1879, John was finally arrested for manslaughter in the McGee Case. General Miles appeared as a character witness at the Bismarck trial. His testimony was a tribute to Bruguiers intelligence, which was of great value in several critical instances. Also appearing as character witness was the unscrupulous land speculator and lawyer, Dr. Walter A. Burleigh. The doctor successfully entered into court record a petition signed in John’s behalf by many leading citizens of Miles City, Montana. The jury deliberated half an hour before delivering the final verdict of not guilty. John was so convincing, spectators burst into applause. (Later, John’s Yankton land holdings went to Burleigh as a possible fee for legal counsel.)
John continued to perform valuable interpreting services for many years. He was called upon at various important events such as the meetings bet6ween general Miles and Indian leaders after the Wounded Knee Massacre in 1890.
In later years, Bruguier moved to a reservation near Poplar, Montana. On June 13, 1898, the well-known Interpreter was himself murdered on a lonely, deserted road by a man wielding a wagon wrench.
It is difficult to determine the impact John Bruguiers alliances had on the course of frontier history.
Story taken from Remember Your Relatives; Yankton Sioux Images, 1851 to 1904, volume I, by Renee Sansom-Flood and Shirley A. Bernie, edited by Leonard R. Bruguier.
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Post by Spirit of the Owl Woman on Mar 4, 2008 22:32:39 GMT -5
Fanny "Buckles" Bruguier is a puzzle. At first, I thought she was Johnny's child. But, now I do not know. Since Josephine completely disappears, I am assuming she died.
Name: Fannie Bruguier
Date of Birth: abt 1890
Age: 6
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of Household: Sister
Tribe: Yanktonnais
Agency: Fort Peck
State: Montana
Last Census Number: 853
Census Date: 30 Jun 1896
Household Members: Name Age
Wm Bruguier 42
Lida Bruguier 21
Fannie Bruguier 6
Source: Year: 1896; Roll: M595_151; Agency: Fort Peck.
Here she is listed as SISTER
Name: Fannie Bruguier
Date of Birth: abt 1891
Age: 6
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of Household: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Lida
Tribe: Yanktonais
Agency: Fort Peck
State: Montana
Last Census Number: 195
Census Date: 1897
Household Members: Name Age
William Bruguier 43
Lida Bruguier 22
Fannie Bruguier 6
Source: Year: 1897; Roll: M595_152; Page: 8; Line: 23; Agency: Fort Peck.
Here she is listed as DAUGHTER.
Name: Fannie Buckles
Date of Birth: abt 1893
Age: 6
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of Household: Niece
Tribe: Yanktonai Sioux (Dakota)
Agency: Fort Peck
State: Montana
Last Census Number: 100
Census Date: 14 Jul 1899
Household Members: Name Age
Wm Bruguier 48
Lyda Bruguier 23
Lulu Bruguier 18
Julia Bruguier 9
Fannie Buckles 6
Source: Year: 1899; Roll: M595_152; Agency: Fort Peck.
Here she is listed as NIECE.
Name: Fannie Buckles
Date of Birth: abt 1893
Age: 6
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of Household: Niece
Tribe: Yanktonai Sioux (Dakota)
Agency: Fort Peck
State: Montana
Last Census Number: 100
Census Date: 14 Jul 1899
Household Members: Name Age
Wm Bruguier 48
Lyda Bruguier 23
Lulu Bruguier 18
Julia Bruguier 9
Fannie Buckles 6
Source: Year: 1899; Roll: M595_152; Agency: Fort Peck.
Again here she is listed as NIECE.
THOUGHTS ANYONE?
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Post by elevine on Feb 24, 2012 10:37:44 GMT -5
I am trying to locate a high resolution TIF of the photograph of John Bruguier with the that, rifle, and wolf pup. Does any one know who owns the rights to this image and/or would be willing to make me a scan?
I appreciate any help.
Thank you,
Emliy
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Post by hermin1 on Feb 24, 2012 11:22:59 GMT -5
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Post by elevine on Feb 24, 2012 23:45:34 GMT -5
Thank you so much for responded so quickly!
I appreciate it. But I need a 300dpi scan, can't use a 72. Sorry.
Do you just have a scan or an actual photograph?
Thanks again,
Emily
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Post by hermin1 on Feb 26, 2012 13:35:43 GMT -5
emily: I took a snapshot of the original above and edited it with my photo editing program. I do not have an origianl phtograph of him,sorry.
You can print it on photo paper, or better yet, I use the Card Stock and it gives just as good a result as using photo paper.
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Post by mink on Feb 26, 2012 17:09:55 GMT -5
For people who may be wondering--who owns the rights to photographs--the answer is the photographer. It's the same as any other artistic work. Right now, anything created prior to about 1923 is in the public domain. All those old photos that historical societies charge for permission to use--they don't really own the right to them, although they act like they do. Housing something and owning the rights is not the same thing, obviously. I may have a copy of a book in my home but I certainly don't own any rights to reproduce it, make a movie of it, etc. The same thing applies to a letter or email I might have here--the copyright belings to the person who wrote it and I don't have authority to do anything with it without permission. Yep, that applies even to emails! If someone should claim "Hey, I have a photo of my gggrandpa on my website and so I own the rights to that"--they couldn't be more mistaken. They don't own the rights unless they are the copyright heirs of the photographer and renewed the copyright. The relationship to the subject is immaterial.
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Post by hermin1 on Feb 27, 2012 10:51:25 GMT -5
My understanding is that once something is published on the net, it is in the public domain.
Unless, the publisher posts something from a source that is copy4righted. In this case the poster must cite the reference.
I know the Minn. Hist. Soc. has claimed copyrights on a lot of really old books, to which the original copyrigh expired, because the person died or for some other reason.they have erased te original copy right info on the books and inserted themselves as the copyright owners.
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Post by mink on Feb 27, 2012 13:09:40 GMT -5
Something published on the Net doesn't make it public domain--trust me. A lot of people have re-published old books because the copyright has lapsed and they are out of print. Some are worth re-printing for sure. But I find it doubtful anyone can become a new copyright owner--except by this means--provide an original introduction to the old text. That way one can get a new ISBN number, as well, because there has been "a substantial change to the content" of the title. Yet I feel sure only the new introduction is under copyright and not the original text. Anyone else can still re-print it, as well. No need to worry about those photographs from the 19th Century--no matter where you find them. They are certainly in the public domain.
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Post by hermin1 on Apr 16, 2012 9:52:30 GMT -5
Fanny "Buckles" Bruguier is a puzzle. At first, I thought she was Johnny's child. But, now I do not know. Since Josephine completely disappears, I am assuming she died. Name: Fannie Bruguier Date of Birth: abt 1890 Age: 6 Gender: Female Relation to Head of Household: Sister Tribe: Yanktonnais Agency: Fort Peck State: Montana Last Census Number: 853 Census Date: 30 Jun 1896 Household Members: Name Age Wm Bruguier 42 Lida Bruguier 21 Fannie Bruguier 6 Source: Year: 1896; Roll: M595_151; Agency: Fort Peck. Here she is listed as SISTER Name: Fannie Bruguier Date of Birth: abt 1891 Age: 6 Gender: Female Relation to Head of Household: Daughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Lida Tribe: Yanktonais Agency: Fort Peck State: Montana Last Census Number: 195 Census Date: 1897 Household Members: Name Age William Bruguier 43 Lida Bruguier 22 Fannie Bruguier 6 Source: Year: 1897; Roll: M595_152; Page: 8; Line: 23; Agency: Fort Peck. Here she is listed as DAUGHTER. Name: Fannie Buckles Date of Birth: abt 1893 Age: 6 Gender: Female Relation to Head of Household: Niece Tribe: Yanktonai Sioux (Dakota) Agency: Fort Peck State: Montana Last Census Number: 100 Census Date: 14 Jul 1899 Household Members: Name Age Wm Bruguier 48 Lyda Bruguier 23 Lulu Bruguier 18 Julia Bruguier 9 Fannie Buckles 6 Source: Year: 1899; Roll: M595_152; Agency: Fort Peck. Here she is listed as NIECE. Name: Fannie Buckles Date of Birth: abt 1893 Age: 6 Gender: Female Relation to Head of Household: Niece Tribe: Yanktonai Sioux (Dakota) Agency: Fort Peck State: Montana Last Census Number: 100 Census Date: 14 Jul 1899 Household Members: Name Age Wm Bruguier 48 Lyda Bruguier 23 Lulu Bruguier 18 Julia Bruguier 9 Fannie Buckles 6 Source: Year: 1899; Roll: M595_152; Agency: Fort Peck. Again here she is listed as NIECE. THOUGHTS ANYONE? __________________ lavannah: could there be two persons named Fannie< ie. this fannie buckles and the Fannie tht was in your top census posting ? It is odd that this Fannie never aged over those nine years. Howisthis Josephine you mentioned,related to fannie? |
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