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Post by sara on Nov 23, 2007 17:16:08 GMT -5
Mazaojanjan, I see is listed on this site as a son to Wakute, Where was he from 1863-1866. Maybe I am scanning the prisoners lists to quickly, I do not see him anywhere. (?) Thanks fro any help SAra
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Post by sisco on Nov 25, 2007 1:59:36 GMT -5
Sara, I think he went to Santee and took the name of Wakuta, I have down that he died in Aug of 1880. Oyemaza was his brother and I have wondered where he went from the time he got out of prision until he shows up with Riggs in 1873. Was there a place that they took some of the prisoners after they were released and hid them out for awhile?
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Post by sara on Nov 25, 2007 8:07:00 GMT -5
Hi Sisco, Do you know what prison he was in? Thanks, Sara
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Post by sisco on Nov 25, 2007 15:02:38 GMT -5
Davenport, I understand he was one of the first ones to be released. I can not find where he went after he got out of prison and when he shows up with Riggs as a native helper.
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Post by sisco on Nov 25, 2007 15:06:37 GMT -5
Sara, sorry I was talking about Oyemaza was at Davenport, Mazajanjan I beleive was not in prison but was at Ft. Snelling. I think he is the one sitting in front of the tepee (a pic. taken at Snelling) named Wakuta. He is really Wakuta 2. Sisco
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Post by sara on Nov 25, 2007 16:20:28 GMT -5
Hello, I have a photo of Mazaojanjan from MNHS I think the Wakute Wacouta sitting in front of the tipi is the Chief Wakute Wacouta. Seems to be the right age etc.
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Post by sara on Nov 25, 2007 16:36:51 GMT -5
[im<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/Dakotalakota/mazaojanjanmazaozanzan.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>g][/img]
Ma-za O-zhan-yahn, Transparent Iron, a chief of the Mdewakanton Sioux Call Number X-32449 Summary Standing studio portrait of Ma-za O-zhan-yahn (Transparent Iron), a Native American man and chief of the Mdewakanton Sioux, wearing a headband with feathers and a long coat with a belt tie; he holds a ceremonial staff or a spear. Date [1858 or 1859] Creator Vannerson, Julian, b. 1827.
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Post by sisco on Nov 25, 2007 17:16:49 GMT -5
The reason I thought it was Wacouta 2 is because Wacouta 1 died in 1858 or 59 and that pic. I understand was taken in Ft. Snelling while they were in captivity? So guess I have been believing that wrong all this time.
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Post by sara on Nov 25, 2007 17:26:15 GMT -5
OK I see what you mean. The Wakute who was a spokesperson during the conflict is the one pictuured in the photo. Also in 1866 when they go to Santee he is head of a band of Mdewakanton. THe 1869 Census at Santee he is listed as head also. Had you had this photo of Mazaojanjan before? The caption said he was head of a band, but I did not see that in any census records before 1862 or after? Sara
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Post by sisco on Nov 26, 2007 23:56:24 GMT -5
Sara, I did not have this photo to your posting and was glad to see it, I have looked and looked for a picture of Oyemaza and Robert Hakewaste Wilson but have no luck. Also would u know if there was a place in Keokuk Ia that some of them may have went after being released from prison?
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Post by sara on Nov 27, 2007 0:31:44 GMT -5
Hi Sisco I had not heard about the Keokuk IA story. I would like to see a photo of Oyemaza and Robert Hakewaste, too.
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Post by sisco on Nov 27, 2007 13:08:10 GMT -5
I am sorry to say i do not know more about the Keokuk story, there was something i read a long time ago that said they were afraid for the men that were released and were trying to find a place for them to go and for some reason Keokuk sticks in my mind. I have not been able to find it again and who knows maybe I dreamed it up. Just thought someone may know something about it and I could ck it out. I see Keokuk is down river from Davenport and did not know if there was seminarys there or something.
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Post by peacekeeper on Nov 27, 2007 19:34:48 GMT -5
Here is another interesting piece of trivia to add to the puzzle. my great-great-great grandfather was a renville ranger and then in the 10th minnesota infantry. he was on a boat and his hand and part of his arm were accidentally shot off in 1863. one of the hospitals he stayed at and was eventually released was in keokuk, iowa. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.............................. the plot thickens. i believe that keokuk must have also been an important military base.
jackie
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Post by dawn on Nov 27, 2007 21:19:09 GMT -5
The Keokuk County historical society may be able to help you find the information you need.
They do not have email so you need to write them with your inquiries. The charge .25 per page for copies.
Margaret Hollingsworth Keokuk County Historical Society P.O. Box 123 Sigourney IA 52591-0123
I was trying to research Chief Keokuk when I ran across this place.
Hope this helps.
Dawn
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Post by sisco on Nov 28, 2007 3:06:46 GMT -5
Dawn appreciate the help and will sure give it a shot.
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Post by sisco on Nov 28, 2007 3:10:43 GMT -5
Golly Jackie I am so glad u said that as I thought maybe I had a dream as could not find any thing on it. So maybe I have not went completly nuts. I remember it said Keokuk and I can not find Oyemaza after he left Davenport till he shows with Riggs in 1873 so there is some place he had to have been. thanks for info.
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Post by ed50 on May 26, 2008 21:07:41 GMT -5
I was looking through my files and I found a "Mazaojanjan" he is a brother to Amelia Redwing. His parents are Wakute & Hapanna,
Brothers & Sisters---Mother---Hapanna Mazaojanjan Tuhmaga Wagiwin James Redwing Tipihiyayewin Mazadan
Half-Brothers & Sisters ---Mother--Zitkadansakoyakewin John C. Redwing Hapan Hepi Hapstin Hapahdayedan Hake Tawapahahota Ben Skye
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Post by hermin1 on May 27, 2008 8:43:03 GMT -5
to add to the confusion, there were 3 chief Redwings. the one that Pike met on his expedition told Pike that he was also called Hupahuduta . His son,Walking buffalo ecame Wakute No 2. he is the one who died in 1858. His step-son Wakuta the 3rd is the one in the photos at ft. snelling. I believe he went to Crow creek witht the others. the ones who were pardoned by Lincoln in 1864 weres ent to crow Creek. another one or two groups of released prisoners in 1865 were also sent to Crow creek. but as you guys have found also, i couldn't find Oyemaza either after 1866. I wonder if he got sent to a seminary or someplace?
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Post by hermin1 on May 27, 2008 8:44:10 GMT -5
to add to the confusion, there were 3 chief Redwings. the one that Pike met on his expedition told Pike that he was also called Hupahuduta . His son,Walking buffalo ecame Wakute No 2. he is the one who died in 1858. His step-son Wakuta the 3rd is the one in the photos at ft. snelling. I believe he went to Crow creek witht the others. the ones who were pardoned by Lincoln in 1864 weres ent to crow Creek. another one or two groups of released prisoners in 1865 were also sent to Crow creek. but as you guys have found also, i couldn't find Oyemaza either after 1866. I am thinking that he may be found at the sisseton Wahpeton reservation at lake Traverse after he got out>
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Post by BIG JON on May 27, 2008 11:17:38 GMT -5
I HAVE BEEN READING A LOT OF ONLINE BOOKS OF THE PERIOD AND CAME ACROSS A MEDICINE BOTTLE 1 (MAZAOJANJAN)...WHO WAS AN UNCLE TO MEDICINE BOTTLE 2...THE GUY CAPTURED WITH LITTLE SIX (SHAKOPEE)
ITS JUST SOMETHING I FOUND....NOT SURE WHICH BOOK THOUGH (BUT I CAN PROBABLY FIND IT IF ANYBODY NEEDS IT)
AND THIS IS INTERESTING: "The sioux? Far from the Northwest they said their fathers came-the tartar cheek was theirs. Wabasha and his chiefs alone had the caucasian countenance. Three mighty brothers ruled the Sioux in the days of Pontiac Wabasha, Red Wing, and Little Crow. Their sons, Wabasha, Red Wing, and Little Crow ruled still. "Boundaries?" they knew not the meaning of the word."-FROM 'THE CONQUEST' BY EMILY DYE-MCLURG-1902
IT SAYS THEY WERE BROTHERS IN A COUPLE OF PLACES...DON'T KNOW HOW ACCURATE IT IS THOUGH...THE SECOND SET WOULD HAVE BEEN OUR GUYS DURING THE UPRISING...
JON
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