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Post by Jimmy on May 13, 2009 10:55:30 GMT -5
That really makes me mad.
How was your trip otherwise?
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Post by hermin1 on May 13, 2009 12:54:31 GMT -5
Oh dear,what a tragic insult to the memories of those beloved ones buried there.someone should contact the Tribal council about this.if you knew whose cows they were,i'dream the owner a new anus and make him pay restitution for damages, or make whomeverwas supposed to be the caretaker pay for his carelessness.
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Post by stacy on Oct 27, 2011 9:57:26 GMT -5
Where is this cemetery?? Its in middle of a field right??? I been there years ago...I went there and cleaned it up one summer because I have relatives in that cemetery. But I can not remember the directions there. I have stories from my auint who went to that church,...church is gone now and I was also trying to locate it for her.
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Post by paintballdude on Feb 5, 2012 22:23:59 GMT -5
Where is this cemetery?? Its in middle of a field right??? I been there years ago...I went there and cleaned it up one summer because I have relatives in that cemetery. But I can not remember the directions there. I have stories from my auint who went to that church,...church is gone now and I was also trying to locate it for her. The Cemetery is located west of Veblen, SD and my dad Edward La Belle, and his brother Howard La Belle built the church which as you said is now gone. My Dad Eward La Belle was the pastor of the church for a while after they built it. My brother Edward La Belle Jr. has been trying to get the tribe to purchase the land and restore/maintain it. My nephew usually goes up there around the fourth of July to work on cleaning it up. My brother Ed jr is now trying to work witth the sisiseton whapeton Tribal historical Preservation office to do something about the cemetary.
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Post by hermin1 on Feb 6, 2012 3:43:37 GMT -5
Is the land on which the old church stood and cemetery still owned by the religious group (ie. Presbyterian,or Congregational or whatever)?god bless you and your family for your cleanup and preservtion efforts.
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Post by hermin1 on Feb 6, 2012 3:44:09 GMT -5
Is the land on which the old church stood and cemetery still owned by the religious group (ie. Presbyterian,or Congregational or whatever)?god bless you and your family for your cleanup and preservtion efforts.
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Post by hermin1 on Feb 6, 2012 3:51:59 GMT -5
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Post by mianasad1126 on May 31, 2013 23:00:30 GMT -5
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Post by paintballdude on Jul 7, 2013 21:18:17 GMT -5
Is the land on which the old church stood and cemetery still owned by the religious group (ie. Presbyterian,or Congregational or whatever)?god bless you and your family for your cleanup and preservtion efforts. The land is owned by a farmers wife, family name is Grimsrud. He wanted 1000.00/acre when he was living and we would have to by a quarter section (160 acres) because La Belle creek runs through the north end of it and the land is only good for pasture. The cemetery is in the middle of the quarter section but the cows can get to the water. There is a pretty good fence around the cemetery and has barbed wire on it. The problem is that visitors leave the cemetery gate open and the cows get in and knock over the tombstones. My brother Edward La Belle is still trying to get the Tribe to purchase and maintain it. There is no one farming there but there are cows so the Grimsrud family probably leases the land for pasture.
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 8, 2013 9:01:31 GMT -5
larry: this is just an idea(it may turn into a brain fart),but i wonder if way back when, that land where the cemetery is,was purchased and donated, or purchased by the church group that built the church?if there haven't been any new burials there, I would think that the full quarter acre wouldn't have to be bought. Would posting sign advising visitors to close the gate after they leave, help any?
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Post by paintballdude on Jul 15, 2013 15:34:26 GMT -5
I have record of the land transfer from the Marshall county register of deeds in Britton SD. The land was acquired from the US government by patent on August 5, 1892 in a trust by the Dakota Presbytery and administered by Samuel Maka, Peter Frenier, John Stand, Henry Ortley, Wm Redday, and John Iyapeza. On April 24, 1968 the Original Board of Trustees no longer existed and the Dakota Presbytery, sold the whole quarter section to Aldean Grimsrud of Veblen SD for 2200.00 dollars. There is a railroad track above the cemetery to the west that still has a right of way but does not affect the cemetery or former site of the church. Ther have been some burials there since 1968 and my brother wants to be buried there. My Mother and Father are both buried there as well two sisters, and My uncle Howard La Belle and his wife Sophie, and GrandfatherBaptiste and his second wife Katie. Ther are probably other relatives but I am the youngest of Edward La Belle and did not grow up in SD. Thankfully my dad moved us to St. Paul MN when i was about a year old.
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 16, 2013 12:44:14 GMT -5
thank you for the land history info. paintballdude. That was despicable of the Dakota presbyter to sell the land that includes the grave yard.
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Post by wakanhotain on Aug 20, 2013 11:34:34 GMT -5
The land owner can't own the cemetery. You probably will not be able to expand. You also have right of way to go to the cemetery. Check with the South Dakota / North Dakota laws governing cemeteries. As far a visitors leaving the gate open, you could with the owners permission install a cattle guard. If his animals damaged the cemetery you could use this as leverage as he would have to pay for correcting the damage. Louie
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Post by labellel on May 25, 2014 21:38:59 GMT -5
My dad and I have recently mowed and cleanup the cemetery as best we can. My dad put the fence up to protect it long ago. He has aked the tribe as well to purchase the land that goes from the road to the cemetery. We cannot put in a suitable road without it being purchased by the tribe. The cemetery looks like it was vandalized for its stones. Many of them are broken off and taken. Many of the markers have fallen over and need to be reset. Every year my dad mows the cemetery but it needs more work. He is getting into his seventies now and cannot do this work by himself. It will take alot to get those heavy stones redug and placed back in place. We tried three people to lift smaller stones but we cannot. Those granite slabs are pretty heavy. I have done my best to turn the stones over that have writing on them so at least you can see who is buried at certain sites. My great grandpa was Louis LaBelle Jr. He was buried there and we cannot find his stone.
We cannot even put stones into the creek area so we can drive across. Gotta take chances with 4X4 vehicles.
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