Hi, I stumbled upon this site and am quite impressed with what i have seen so far. Would you know of any information regarding Henry C. Lafferty and Elizabeth Larrabee (Laravie/Larvie)? or of any of the Larrabee sisters: Sarah who was married to Scottie Phillips, Zoe who was married to Cornie Utterback, Helen/Nellie who was married to Crazy Horse, and my Grandmother Elizabeth whom married Henry C. Lafferty. The parents of the Larrabee/Laravie women were Joseph Larrabee/Laravie and Chi-Chi aka Mary Steed of the Cheyenne Tribe in Montana? You may email me the information if you have any or any pointers. All women are mentioned in books but nothing solid as to where they were enrolled or what their indian names were if they had any. Thank you for your time, Lynnette
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and scroll down to the bottom you can see a purported photo of Helen Laravie, the mixed blood wife [her father was a French trader] of Crazy Horse. There is more info on that site about the chief's women, but one has to subscribe to see that. I would say that, when it comes to finding out things about ancestors, Google is your friend.
have you tried the following web sites:www.geneanet.org , www.familysearch.org. i have somelaraviers inmy records, but no laravies or larabees. When was your grandma born, where, and when,where did she die?Try working backwards on your tree, i find this helps with many of the people i help search for.
here's a good link which tells about Ellen/Nellie/Helen/chichi/Brown eyes woman, Joseph Larvie/larabee:
freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mikestevens/2010-p/surname_index.htm ancestry.com has the following info: Elizabeth was born @1857, South Dakota, Died 1910 Gettysburg,Dewey,SD. her hubby Henry C. Lafferty was born @1847 WI,son of John Lafferty(1808-1878) and mary Jones(1816-1856). He and Elizabeth were wed 1877 in Dewey,SD.Henry died 4 may,1925 Ziebach,SD.. their Children: Florence,b 1875 Mabel(1885 -1935) Walter b.1887 Lillian 91890 -1940) Bertie 1891 - 1958) Gilbert b. 1895 Ruby Pearl(1898- 1957) Arthur born@1871 Gertrude b.@1886
As the link above states, joseph remarried to Susan Metcalf and they had children, all sons. You canalso check with earth7w re. the Pine Ridege genealogy, because Ellen/Ne..lliee,Helenetc.., Joseph and his second wife and their children all settled at Pine Ridge Res. in shannon County,SD.
The records at Tiospaye give Joseph's surname as Larvie or larabee. joseph had 5 daughters not 4. His 5th daughter Julia was born in1850 in NE. She died May 3,1909 SD.Her parents were Long Joe(Joseph larvie) and Big Cheyenne.so her sisters had the same mother.Julia's spouse was Michael Dunn,born 1845 in ireland. he died 25 Nov, 1921.they were married at fort robinson in NE. michael later wed the widow of his good friend James Dowd, in 1912 and they moved to Ft.Pierre,SD. his second wife died in1956. Michael, Julia and his second spouse are buried near James Dowdat Cedar Hill Cem. near Ft. Pierre,SD. Ref. Chap. 16 History of Ziebach County. they had 14 children, 5 lived to adulthod.
My mother name was Clevia Edith Larrabee and her grandmothers name was Nellie/Helen Larrabee. I was told that Crazy Horse and Helen had no children. I lived on the Pine Ridge Rez as a child and am just now interested in the lineage.
is a site that has a lot of info about Crazy Horse and his family.
I have never read that Crazy Horse had any children with Nellie Laravie but the latter's father had five or six sons by another wife, Susan Metcalf. Maybe your mother and grandmother are descended from one of Nellie Laravie's half brothers. We need more info in order to help you.
hermin1: I a not ignoring you. I have been busy helping others. you aren't the only one searching for his/her roots.
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hermin1: the records we have found do not indicate that your alleged ancestors were white.
Mar 6, 2014 17:07:37 GMT -5
hermin1: you can tell stories about them, but that isn't proof of anything.
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hermin1: your explanation as to why your ancestor was left in Missouri with relatives by his parents doesn't hold any water,as they too would not have been able to return to the res,because of the regulations.As to ms. winkler, the marriage record is on file.the ce
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hermin1: the siouxs that were evicted from Minnesota in 1863-1864 frm Ft. snelling were all accounted for. there were no escapes from the boats on which they were transported to the Dakota territory, from what I hae been able to find on line.
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hermin1: Hi there Dawn Day.
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matoopi: well herman i not know much about the german blood thing but i do know martha was not german by blood no more than that cat diging in the garbage is german when it is nothing more than a ally cat and my great grandfather is the son of stephen brown pp1
Mar 10, 2014 9:20:57 GMT -5
matoopi: pp2 and i have shared a photo of clarence edward brown with louie and i have photos of my gg grandparents stephen brown and you be amazed of family not change in looks and i also got picture of gggg uncle joe and i have a lott of his features as a pp2 0f3
Mar 10, 2014 9:25:12 GMT -5
matoopi: matter of fact i have same eyes cheek bones mouth ears hight and same body build just minus the skin color
Mar 10, 2014 9:27:12 GMT -5
matoopi: ps minus the flat staight hair . my hair is bushy curly dark jet brown
Mar 10, 2014 9:29:16 GMT -5
matoopi: by the way you say clarnence being stranded not wash and i got news for you its true and there is nothing i can do about it and it was not regulatulations it was restrictions and every section of the sioux was not allowed to leave rez and i not be here pp1
Mar 10, 2014 9:44:40 GMT -5
matoopi: i not be here on proboards if this crap never happen but it did and here i am people in bia and united states can set back and deniy the facts and get by with it cause i can't find hard paper to prove it but pictures speak loud and as soon as i get pp2 of3
Mar 10, 2014 9:48:38 GMT -5
matoopi: as soon as i get the money saved up i will have paper good hard paper showing my blood called d n a just as i stated i am half sioux by blood plus half of my dads 1/4 cherokee blood witch is 1/8 add it all up i am 5/8 native by blood and i have joined aim
Mar 10, 2014 9:52:04 GMT -5
matoopi: i can only do so much i not white and i am native american indian and if you are you know how life is and you understand i not made of money. cause there is no such thing as a rich indian. and i will get the hierships when i got it to spend. sorry
Mar 10, 2014 22:32:38 GMT -5
matoopi: i have a ill elder in my family and another ill elder in arizona in all i have two sick sioux elders i must see to first and one is my mother second is my aunt and as is i am going to bed hungry cause the come before i
Mar 10, 2014 22:38:11 GMT -5
matoopi: well hermon i got a lakota woman who is claming she blood relation to me and she states her ancestor was one of the bear of the oglala sioux who died at wounded knee so i ask for your help in the veryfing if tawokonze had a son in that area with name start
Mar 11, 2014 8:10:56 GMT -5
matoopi: with name of bear
Mar 11, 2014 8:11:28 GMT -5
hermin1: tawakonze's children are listed in the notes that Louie Garcia sent you some time ago.Tawakonze was a Sisseton Wahpeton.You ask the lady for proof of this relationship.
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