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Post by Spirit of the Owl Woman on Mar 1, 2008 18:58:04 GMT -5
I believe this is the father of Osotewin "SmokeWoman" also known as Grandma White Tallow.
See below the names in bold I am looking for translation. What is wife's name?
Name: Hejate Date of Birth: abt 1817 Age: 76 Gender: Male Tribe: Yanktonai Sioux (Dakota) Agency: Yankton State: South Dakota Last Census Number: 978 Census Date: 1893 Household Members: Name Age Hejate 76 Hanffetwinapewin 65
Is Hejate "Forked Horn" or "Forked Teeth" And what does Hanffetwinapewin translate to?
Thank you for any info on these names.
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dean
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Post by dean on Mar 1, 2008 22:25:25 GMT -5
Hi Lavanah On Father Madlon's Picotte tree - Hejate is Forked Teeth. Osotewin (Smoke Woman or Grandma White Tallow) listed as a daughter. Dean
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 2, 2008 10:10:01 GMT -5
the above tree that dean mentioned is in our Archives i think or in the Family trees section. Jimmy posted several of Father Madlon's trees. lavannah: How are you related to these people?
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Post by Spirit of the Owl Woman on Mar 3, 2008 16:27:14 GMT -5
Thank you all for this information. I do have a copy of the Picotte tree done by Fr Madlon and have found some inconsistencies. Though, it is chock full of leads in order to pursue documents and I am greatly appreciative to have it for my research.
My grandfather (Clement Smith, Jr.) mother's maiden name was Julia Benoist. Her sister and my great-aunt, was Louisa Benoist. Louisa Benoist married Charles Francois Picotte and Charles' father was Honore Picotte. This is my connection to the Picotte's.
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Post by Spirit of the Owl Woman on Mar 3, 2008 16:50:27 GMT -5
Forked Teeth is correct. According to An English-Dakota Dictionary, by Williamson, Hi = tooth and can be used in the plural. Zate = Forked. And I believe, the J sometimes has the sound of Z as in wajina.
But the other name for his wife is perplexing as I have not seen anything similiar. I will look at the original of this document to see if perhaps there was an error in the handwriting translation. But in the meantime, should anyone have an idea, that would be great!
Thanks again Hermin and Dean.
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 4, 2008 15:50:20 GMT -5
I do not believe that the dakotas used the letter f in their grammer and language. You might try seeing if ther may beany information on them at the Blue Cloud Abbey near Marty SD. forked tooth was the grandfather of William Bean aka Chief Blue cloud. there is a book als ocalled the The 8th Landing, Lewis and Clark Meet the Yankton Sioux Indians.
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Post by BIG JON on Mar 4, 2008 16:09:31 GMT -5
HANFFETWINAPEWIN= HANYETUINAPEWIN
COMING NIGHT-WIN APPEARING NIGHT-WIN
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Post by Spirit of the Owl Woman on Mar 4, 2008 21:50:21 GMT -5
Thanks Hermin and Big Jon for this valuable info and Hermin I just want to let you know that you seem to always come in with the home runs. You are great professional, Information Specialist. SPECIALIST with caps!
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Post by nncy58 on Mar 4, 2008 23:11:43 GMT -5
There is a thread under Lineal Descendant called Abe Crawford and the name Hanyetuyeyawin(I don't think I spelled it the same as Louie has on his reply) is mentioned. There is some lineage shown and her name means Passing in the Night. You might want to check that post out to see if possibly it is the person you are looking for.
Good Luck
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 5, 2008 10:14:58 GMT -5
thanks nancy and BIG JON for your help with these names.
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Post by Tak Ota Wanyaka on Jun 24, 2014 12:48:11 GMT -5
He Zate-Forked Horn? 'He zate-Forked Hill?
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Post by theodorechipmunk on Jun 25, 2014 9:48:09 GMT -5
I have also seen hejate translated to forked horn.
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