This is a copy from a ledger sheet from the Sibley Papers. I believe it shows the debts of the employees of a fur-trading outfit in 1834. It is signed by one of the top men in the trading business, Hercules Dousman, and appears to be in his handwriting. I think this document was prepared to transfer the debts owed to the "Western Outfit" to the newly created "Sioux Outfit." At the same time Henry Sibley came to Minnesota in 1834, there was a major realignment in the ownership of the local fur trade, with Dousman and Sibley being two of the principal new owners. This document may have been used to transfer the employee's debts into the new company.
It is very hard to read, but my ancestor's name, Francois Trudell, looks to be the 3rd name down. It looks like he owed $20.12.
I am looking for information on Mary Red Kettle. She was an Oglala Sioux. ____________________ Hello and welcome to our website. it would help us to help you if you would give us more information than just her name and tribal affiliation. How are you related to her? do you have any vital dates on her? do you know who her husband was?
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i have a mrs.? Red Kettle born 1839. she was an Iwayausota Oglala Sioux.She married ? Red Kettle in 1862. they had the following children: Millie b. 1863 wife of White rabbit. Son:joshua White Rabbit Alice b.1864 Henry b. 1876 Ellen b.1877 Robert b. 1877 William b. 1878 Rosa b. 1879 Chester b. 1892 Mollie b.@1830 a Jesse Curtis b. bef. 1940 t ft. laramie. father was ? Fetherman. her spouse was Eldridge Gerry. their dau. Lucy died After1914. The Red kettles except for Mollie are listed on the 1890 and later censuses of the Pine ridge Reservation. n the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation Censuses for 1890 and forward.
charlottekeoke: And also if anyone has come across any names beside John Otherday, like his sisters parents, brothers?
Oct 18, 2014 13:07:33 GMT -5
charlottekeoke: in particular Lucy Otherday
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hermin1: charlottekeoke contact Vicky Valenta at firstname.lastname@example.org she may be able to help you with the mayasan churches information.
Oct 18, 2014 18:07:17 GMT -5
hermin1: Jon Otherday's father was Zitkaduta ,mother-unknown. He had a t least a sister, Lucy Otherday.
Oct 18, 2014 18:31:22 GMT -5
charlottekeoke: Thank you Hermin1, great information, it was just what I was looking for.
Oct 18, 2014 23:38:56 GMT -5
hermin1: charlotte: I have posted a thread on the otherdays at the mdewakanton Reference Site:
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hermin1: ooPhere is some biographical info on John Otherday in the book "Through Dakota Eyes".when he was a young man, he tried to commit suicide,during a squabble involving two of his friends.
Oct 19, 2014 15:01:28 GMT -5
hermin1: Luckily he missed, and was only stunned.
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Spirit of the Owl Woman: Thank you Hermin for the message about Louis Garcia. I have emailed him and hopefully he will call me or email me here. Can you please and delete your message to me as I may want to use the next space as a continuance of names. Thanks.
Nov 2, 2014 14:49:25 GMT -5
hermin1: spirit of the moon woman: I alsot tried to contact you at that address and it got returned.don't post an email address ,unless it is legitimate, or don't post an email address at all.
Nov 2, 2014 23:54:38 GMT -5
Spirit of the Owl Woman: AGAIN THE EMAIL THAT IS POSTED IS THE CORRECT EMAIL. LAVANAH.JUDAH@GMAIL.COM email@example.com. I do not know why you are getting bounced back but maybe you made the mistake. Other people have contacted me with no problem.
Nov 4, 2014 14:42:35 GMT -5
Spirit of the Owl Woman: And, if people want to contact me they can also contact me by leaving a message in my message box on this site. I am willing to help anyone who asks.
Nov 4, 2014 14:44:18 GMT -5
Spirit of the Owl Woman: So Hermin, can you please delete your message as my posted email is correct and people who don't get it double check themselves.\
Nov 4, 2014 14:45:24 GMT -5
hermin1: spirit of the Moon Woman. I am sorry, but my posting will stay where it is at. I was requested to post that message to you by Louie Garcia.if you have problems with this,contact Mike Denney ,at firstname.lastname@example.org
Nov 6, 2014 16:50:14 GMT -5
hermin1: I know you are willing to help people,Lavannah. I should have told Louie to send you a private message, and for my lapse I am deeply sorry.
Nov 6, 2014 16:53:41 GMT -5
hermin1: thank goodness, I was able to delete the posting.i will report this incident to mike.
Nov 6, 2014 16:58:07 GMT -5
hermin1: your posting has been deleted. if you have problems with this action, contact Mike Denney100 at email@example.com
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Spirit of the Owl Woman: HERMIN, YOU FUCKING city girl! I SPENT SO MUCH TIME TO HELP PEOPLE AND YOU DELETE MY POST. NO WONDER NO ONE COMES HERE ANY MORE.
Nov 15, 2014 17:58:28 GMT -5
hermin1: profanity is not permitted on this site. take your complaint to Mike Denney. He is the head of this website now.
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