This is a copy from a ledger sheet from the Sibley Papers. I believe it shows the debts of the employees of a fur-trading outfit in 1834. It is signed by one of the top men in the trading business, Hercules Dousman, and appears to be in his handwriting. I think this document was prepared to transfer the debts owed to the "Western Outfit" to the newly created "Sioux Outfit." At the same time Henry Sibley came to Minnesota in 1834, there was a major realignment in the ownership of the local fur trade, with Dousman and Sibley being two of the principal new owners. This document may have been used to transfer the employee's debts into the new company.
It is very hard to read, but my ancestor's name, Francois Trudell, looks to be the 3rd name down. It looks like he owed $20.12.
I am looking for information on Mary Red Kettle. She was an Oglala Sioux. ____________________ Hello and welcome to our website. it would help us to help you if you would give us more information than just her name and tribal affiliation. How are you related to her? do you have any vital dates on her? do you know who her husband was?
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i have a mrs.? Red Kettle born 1839. she was an Iwayausota Oglala Sioux.She married ? Red Kettle in 1862. they had the following children: Millie b. 1863 wife of White rabbit. Son:joshua White Rabbit Alice b.1864 Henry b. 1876 Ellen b.1877 Robert b. 1877 William b. 1878 Rosa b. 1879 Chester b. 1892 Mollie b.@1830 a Jesse Curtis b. bef. 1940 t ft. laramie. father was ? Fetherman. her spouse was Eldridge Gerry. their dau. Lucy died After1914. The Red kettles except for Mollie are listed on the 1890 and later censuses of the Pine ridge Reservation. n the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation Censuses for 1890 and forward.
hermin1: I a not ignoring you. I have been busy helping others. you aren't the only one searching for his/her roots.
Mar 6, 2014 17:06:48 GMT -5
hermin1: the records we have found do not indicate that your alleged ancestors were white.
Mar 6, 2014 17:07:37 GMT -5
hermin1: you can tell stories about them, but that isn't proof of anything.
Mar 6, 2014 17:08:07 GMT -5
hermin1: your explanation as to why your ancestor was left in Missouri with relatives by his parents doesn't hold any water,as they too would not have been able to return to the res,because of the regulations.As to ms. winkler, the marriage record is on file.the ce
Mar 6, 2014 17:22:37 GMT -5
hermin1: the siouxs that were evicted from Minnesota in 1863-1864 frm Ft. snelling were all accounted for. there were no escapes from the boats on which they were transported to the Dakota territory, from what I hae been able to find on line.
Mar 6, 2014 17:35:09 GMT -5
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Mar 9, 2014 12:26:29 GMT -5
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Mar 9, 2014 12:28:57 GMT -5
hermin1: Hi there Dawn Day.
Mar 10, 2014 0:17:53 GMT -5
matoopi: well herman i not know much about the german blood thing but i do know martha was not german by blood no more than that cat diging in the garbage is german when it is nothing more than a ally cat and my great grandfather is the son of stephen brown pp1
Mar 10, 2014 9:20:57 GMT -5
matoopi: pp2 and i have shared a photo of clarence edward brown with louie and i have photos of my gg grandparents stephen brown and you be amazed of family not change in looks and i also got picture of gggg uncle joe and i have a lott of his features as a pp2 0f3
Mar 10, 2014 9:25:12 GMT -5
matoopi: matter of fact i have same eyes cheek bones mouth ears hight and same body build just minus the skin color
Mar 10, 2014 9:27:12 GMT -5
matoopi: ps minus the flat staight hair . my hair is bushy curly dark jet brown
Mar 10, 2014 9:29:16 GMT -5
matoopi: by the way you say clarnence being stranded not wash and i got news for you its true and there is nothing i can do about it and it was not regulatulations it was restrictions and every section of the sioux was not allowed to leave rez and i not be here pp1
Mar 10, 2014 9:44:40 GMT -5
matoopi: i not be here on proboards if this crap never happen but it did and here i am people in bia and united states can set back and deniy the facts and get by with it cause i can't find hard paper to prove it but pictures speak loud and as soon as i get pp2 of3
Mar 10, 2014 9:48:38 GMT -5
matoopi: as soon as i get the money saved up i will have paper good hard paper showing my blood called d n a just as i stated i am half sioux by blood plus half of my dads 1/4 cherokee blood witch is 1/8 add it all up i am 5/8 native by blood and i have joined aim
Mar 10, 2014 9:52:04 GMT -5
matoopi: i can only do so much i not white and i am native american indian and if you are you know how life is and you understand i not made of money. cause there is no such thing as a rich indian. and i will get the hierships when i got it to spend. sorry
Mar 10, 2014 22:32:38 GMT -5
matoopi: i have a ill elder in my family and another ill elder in arizona in all i have two sick sioux elders i must see to first and one is my mother second is my aunt and as is i am going to bed hungry cause the come before i
Mar 10, 2014 22:38:11 GMT -5
matoopi: well hermon i got a lakota woman who is claming she blood relation to me and she states her ancestor was one of the bear of the oglala sioux who died at wounded knee so i ask for your help in the veryfing if tawokonze had a son in that area with name start
Mar 11, 2014 8:10:56 GMT -5
matoopi: with name of bear
Mar 11, 2014 8:11:28 GMT -5
hermin1: tawakonze's children are listed in the notes that Louie Garcia sent you some time ago.Tawakonze was a Sisseton Wahpeton.You ask the lady for proof of this relationship.
Mar 13, 2014 12:45:38 GMT -5